Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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This is the bizarre thing - the only time I got interdicted was soon after picking up UAs from a crash site, as reported by others, but that seems to be the only thing that FD have specifically said is not the cause (on Galnet):

In his statement, Admiral Tanner said:

"Having reviewed all available information, we can confirm these craft are active primarily within the Pleiades Nebula and the space in and around the Maia and Merope systems. The significance of these locations – if any – has not yet been determined. We can also confirm, despite rumours to the contrary, that carrying an Unknown Artefact does not attract the attention of these vessels."


I know it can't be barnacle related as I never visited any until after the interdiction (unless 2.3 changed the rules of course).

Struggling to think of anything else that could be the trigger, pure RNG would be ... much disappoint

Hmm, well, here's a thought - let's look at that Galnet quote again:

carrying an Unknown Artefact does not attract the attention of these vessels

Carrying is only one part of the interaction we have with the UA. First, though, we are scanned - and it draws our ship. Perhaps... we are being tagged?
 
This is the bizarre thing - the only time I got interdicted was soon after picking up UAs from a crash site, as reported by others, but that seems to be the only thing that FD have specifically said is not the cause (on Galnet (Apr 7)):

In his statement, Admiral Tanner said:

"Having reviewed all available information, we can confirm these craft are active primarily within the Pleiades Nebula and the space in and around the Maia and Merope systems. The significance of these locations – if any – has not yet been determined. We can also confirm, despite rumours to the contrary, that carrying an Unknown Artefact does not attract the attention of these vessels."


I know it can't be barnacle related as I never visited any until after the interdiction (unless 2.3 changed the rules of course).

Struggling to think of anything else that could be the trigger, pure RNG would be ... much disappoint

Hmm, well, here's a thought - let's look at that Galnet quote again:



Carrying is only one part of the interaction we have with the UA. First, though, we are scanned - and it draws our ship. Perhaps... we are being tagged?

Is there anyone that has had zero interaction with alien/guardian stuff that has been hyperdicted?
 
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Is there anyone that has had zero interaction with alien/guardian stuff that has been hyperdicted?

The only interaction with alien/guardian stuff I've had was taking a ton of (store bought) meta-alloys to Farseer, if that even counts.
I can go stooge around Maia/Merope to see if I get hyperdicted, if you think it would be worthwhile.
 
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This. I used to play a lot of Elite because of the ruins, but patch after patch nothing changed. Last time i played was way back, January i think. Aliens are every time delayed and nothing to search on the Formadine rift. Once i see real alien stuff on the forums, i wiill play.

Which is why Im returning to Beagle Point, maybe in 6 months time FD will have sorted it all out!
 
The only interaction with alien/guardian stuff I've had was taking a ton of (store bought) meta-alloys to Farseer, if that even counts.
I can go stooge around Maia/Merope to see if I get hyperdicted, if you think it would be worthwhile.

I don't know really. I was thinking complete alien virgin as it were. Meta alloys are alien, right?

Was just wondering if exposure, like Tomtom suggested, was the deciding factor.

But go for it and see what happens, can't hurt!

[alien]

Edit: That would actually narrow it down to what isn't needed so good idea!

I wonder if someone who only dealt with Elvira would be hyperdicted. She doesn't ask for meta-alloys, and most people that far out have done fsd upgrades so...
 
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I've inrteracted with UA's even carried them, have carried unknown fragments, all the collectables from ruins even shot up a few barnacle sites and picked up the meta alloys etc all within the last week, been scanned multiple times by UA's and still no hyperdiction here, had to change my entry theme for ctrl-alt-space completely when it didnt happen lol, couldnt even get a black box mission to spawn so i couldnt get the the combat aftermath uss spawn, Guess I have been on the totally wrong end of rng.
 
Hmm, well, here's a thought - let's look at that Galnet quote again:

Carrying is only one part of the interaction we have with the UA. First, though, we are scanned - and it draws our ship. Perhaps... we are being tagged?

When the galnet came out ppl were going down that line - I don't expect high standards of accuracy from FD, so I just read this as "It's not the UAs". Would be happy to be wrong [up]

If having been scanned by a UA triggers the hyperdictions then that implies that FD are storing more status with our CMDRs than I had imagined (i.e. they are storing things like : CMDR scanned by UA against my CMDR). Though I suppose it could be something that only applies in a session, similar to what is causing the chain hyperdiction bug.

(Did we even get scanned when picking up UA at wrecks? it's been so long I've forgotten).
 
Here's a long shot. Maybe we get hyperdicted per past barnical harvesting.

Could be. It does seem like adding a code for each of the possible UA/UP/Barnacle/Guardian type interactions to the spread sheet might be useful. Then if there's clustering around a given action (i,e harvested barnacles) maybe we could make some more informed assumptions about their intent and therefore better predictions about their next moves.

This all assumes of course that they have an intent and it's not simply an RNG manifestation.
 
I don't know really. I was thinking complete alien virgin as it were. Meta alloys are alien, right?

Was just wondering if exposure, like Tomtom suggested, was the deciding factor.

But go for it and see what happens, can't hurt!

[alien]

Edit: That would actually narrow it down to what isn't needed so good idea!

I wonder if someone who only dealt with Elvira would be hyperdicted. She doesn't ask for meta-alloys, and most people that far out have done fsd upgrades so...

Has anyone constructed a spreadsheet to analyse hyperdictions?
How about engineer standings? Palin might be one suspect with his MA/UA fixation, but also Elvira since she required Soonthil relics
 
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Has anyone constructed a spreadsheet to analyse hyperdictions?
How about engineer standings? Palin might be one suspect with his MA/UA fixation, but also Elvira since she required Soonthil relics

Personally speaking I am staggeringly inept with spreadsheets. I would quite possibly and inadvertently break the entire internet if I dabbled in those dark arts.
 
Could be two factions of Thargoids (we've speculated this already) with different colour ships-hostile Klaxians & potentially (if we don't upset them) friendly Oresrians.

Don't think those are still canon. I believe currently all we know about Thargoids is that a long while ago there was some pilots reporting of having hostile interactions with alien vessels. Until they stopped entirely, it was rumoured they were chased off by a human engineered space virus goop that broke their ships. But that's unconfirmed.

And now they're pulling us out of hyperspace.

Frontier wants to have a "first official contact" to be within this game.
 
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Occam's Razor says: FIRST they hyperdict you, THEN they 'tendrilize' you, and let you go. So? Hyperdictions are random.

Just like when a federal agent interdicts you and then scans your ship.
 
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Carrying is only one part of the interaction we have with the UA. First, though, we are scanned - and it draws our ship. Perhaps... we are being tagged?

Yep. I think this is probably the general consensus, I've certainly always seen it that way. Interaction with the UA and/or UP allows them to easily find you.

Then they scan you to see if you've ever hurt a UA/UP/Barnacle (one or all) and put you on the naughty or nice list :D

The only interaction with alien/guardian stuff I've had was taking a ton of (store bought) meta-alloys to Farseer, if that even counts.
I can go stooge around Maia/Merope to see if I get hyperdicted, if you think it would be worthwhile.

I tried with my second character who's never and any interaction and after about 60 jumps or so I still haven't been hyperdicted. So if you've the inclination then please feel free.

When the galnet came out ppl were going down that line - I don't expect high standards of accuracy from FD, so I just read this as "It's not the UAs". Would be happy to be wrong [up]

If having been scanned by a UA triggers the hyperdictions then that implies that FD are storing more status with our CMDRs than I had imagined (i.e. they are storing things like : CMDR scanned by UA against my CMDR). Though I suppose it could be something that only applies in a session, similar to what is causing the chain hyperdiction bug.

(Did we even get scanned when picking up UA at wrecks? it's been so long I've forgotten).

I believe you're wrong, but obviously don't know for sure, and yes you get scanned by UAs as soon as you get close to them.

Don't think those are still canon.

Yes that is canon, everything up to the final missions in FFE is.
 
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Quince? You mean the system that people are currently exploiting per the passenger missions?

Well, my logic is this: Why on Earth ( pun not intended ) would you put two fully armed and operational space stations in a system so far away from the bubble ( except for exploration purposes )?

There must be something more special about that place than just very good missions.
 
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Well, my logic is this: Why on Earth ( pun not intended ) would you put two fully armed and operational space stations in a system so far away from the bubble ( except for exploration purposes )?

There must be something more special about that place than just very good missions.

well it's the last system with a shipyard this side of Colonia, and therefore will be the last bastion of humanity when the aliens invade. Also the staging point for operTions against them once they've taken over the bubble
 
well it's the last system with a shipyard this side of Colonia, and therefore will be the last bastion of humanity when the aliens invade. Also the staging point for operTions against them once they've taken over the bubble

Maybe. I am leaning towards that they are doing some seriously secret Space Legs Research somewhere in Quince. Have you seen the steam game "Prey"? I hope it is something like that.
 
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