Alpha Testing Access For Odyssey Pre-Order

Just to be clear, here comes another entitlement.

There are two versions of the Odyssey pre-order available. I know you all have budgets to consider, but if you get the one "without alpha testing access", you will not be getting alpha releases before everyone else who paid for it will.

This is important folks. We all get the beta for Horizons, but it looks like you will have to pay for the alpha release privilege.

So, if you want alpha releases before the bulk of the community gets them, be sure you pre-order the right one now.
Is it just for pc?
I'm also thinking no matter the release date it will be an alpha!
 
Alpha testing should be completed well before the beta starts. I'm guessing end of the year is more likely.
I was implying that obviously the alpha access is no longer available once alpha ends. What wasn't obvious from my comment was that I think Frontier would alter the deluxe version on sale to say beta access instead of the alpha access it says currently. My bad.
 
People who invested well done - seriously you made this game happen - money where your mouth is etc... I missed it - LEP - however I am happy to hand over money to FDEV as I play the game, no other game is as sticky as Elite, they all have an ending and they all have a progression of learner (theses are your controls practice on this new bad guy) through to expert. Elite used to just start, full on, the moment you left training - go into the black and survive my friend. So I got Alpha and cant wait to see how it works, I am a VR player so also interested in what it all looks like.

I would like to add looking forward to meeting people in various location on foot. Across these forums it might seem everyone is out to get you, while some do, I have met a few CMDRs in the black and not had any issues. In fact earlier at a HAZRez me and a another CMDR acted as wing men for each other popping bad guys - just a mutual respect, great feeling fun.

Happy to pay for advanced access.
 
Interesting how many don't seem to have an issue with paying a successful PLC to be a game tester for them.

Some might be doing that but I'm not. I'm paying extra to get early access to the new content, which I'm excited about.

I will help them to test where I can but this is all about me and what I want.

Glorified demo access basically.
Nothing glorified about it. That's exactly what it is. Early access. It's an extremely commonplace practice these days, too. And it harms no one. It's literally a win win so I fail to understand the need to question it.

I also don't get the "supporting Frontier" argument these days.

It's not a difficult concept to get, though. The more money they make the more likely they can put it back into the game. Just because my additional £10 won't go far doesn't alter that fact whatsoever.

The fact is, preorder and early access are a well-adopted business model in the industry. The benefits to the developer should be blatantly obvious (if they're not then perhaps some basic economics might help) and the benefits to the consumer definitely require a little perspective but aren't precisely obfuscated if you apply some thought to it.

What's particularly baffling is the burning desire to question the motivation of these practices when the answers given are dismissed. Obviously, you're going to need a little motivation beyond "I don't see the point in getting early access" and "I don't get supporting fdev" to agree that premium preorder options have value and there are a host of reasons to not preorder. But prefacing every statement of opinion with the rhetoric claiming a lack of understanding just comes across as though you're asking people to argue against your preference, which is pointless.

It's easy to understand why someone wouldn't want to do it; even without the repeated statements of people here giving those reasons. Why is it difficult to grasp that someone would?
 
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I'd rather wait until release to make it 'special', but I run an Elite blog and it's kind of useful to play the game for that reason. So I'll probably get the alpha although #ChristmasPresents. So will have to check the bank balance!
 
Cyberpunk was never Alpha tested via the public...

However as an Alpha test people should/could expect a buggy, incomplete experience...
There's many in the Elite community who have taken part in betas before, and there's a fair number in this community who themselves are programmers and a few are even devs themselves.
 
Just to be clear, here comes another entitlement.

There are two versions of the Odyssey pre-order available. I know you all have budgets to consider, but if you get the one "without alpha testing access", you will not be getting alpha releases before everyone else who paid for it will.

This is important folks. We all get the beta for Horizons, but it looks like you will have to pay for the alpha release privilege.

So, if you want alpha releases before the bulk of the community gets them, be sure you pre-order the right one now.

Thanks for the heads up. Laid down 40 smackers to be a guinea pig for those that didn't.
 
I also don't get the "supporting Frontier" argument these days. During the kickstarter period, sure - but Frontier is a company, a publicly traded one by the way, and one that does rather well judging from the financial data released (which is good, of course). Not a charity case that's at the risk of running out of funding if we don't chuck them a tenner.

This is true, although without funding, Elite faces more of the things people moan about on the forums. No matter how well FD is doing with other games, Elite has to pay for its own development. So maybe don't think of it as supporting FD as supporting Elite itself. There's no subscription fee, and the game is incredibly cheap. I'm just glad the game hasn't been canned due to how few people seem willing to support it.
 
Come on, why do people look at things in a negative way?

Pre-orders are negative for gaming.

Pre-orders incentivize generating hype over quality of product actually delivered. The quality of modern game releases is often so far below what anyone would have dreamed of being viable for launch before pre-orders were a thing. Can you imagine a major game like CP20whatever getting released in the 90s or 2000s in the state it was released in? A small portion of this is due to digital patching, but the bulk of it is pre-orders incentivizing pumping out hyped-up undercooked games.

The negativity will stop when pre-orders stop, and pre-orders aren't stopping in A+ games unless the gaming industry shrinks enormously or gamers stop eating the poison. Seeing that the industry isn't going to shrink, I need to tell you about why pre-orders are bad for gaming . . .

If not for yourself, stop using pre-orders for your children. Won't someone think of the children?!?
 
Pre-orders are negative for gaming.

Pre-orders incentivize generating hype over quality of product actually delivered. The quality of modern game releases is often so far below what anyone would have dreamed of being viable for launch before pre-orders were a thing. Can you imagine a major game like CP20whatever getting released in the 90s or 2000s in the state it was released in? A small portion of this is due to digital patching, but the bulk of it is pre-orders incentivizing pumping out hyped-up undercooked games.

The negativity will stop when pre-orders stop, and pre-orders aren't stopping in A+ games unless the gaming industry shrinks enormously or gamers stop eating the poison. Seeing that the industry isn't going to shrink, I need to tell you about why pre-orders are bad for gaming . . .

If not for yourself, stop using pre-orders for your children. Won't someone think of the children?!?
Pre-orders are kind of necessary for Alpha and Beta access as otherwise you would have to open up alpha/beta testing to everyone. For f2p games this is fine but paid game its a difficult situation.

At the end of the day, if you play this game for hours on end right now, and have sunk enough time into the game so you know that you will definitely be with it for the foreseeable future, you might as well pre-order as you will likely buy it anyway.

If you play the game a lot and you consider it as one of your favourite games, Odyssey will include too much content for you to really miss out on. Therefore pre-order makes total sense. Can't really compare this pre order to CP2077 as that is a totally new game, not an expansion to an existing game. If you are new to ED, or don't play it much, I'd probably wait for release/beta.
 
OK, so let us be clear about this "offer".

You have to PAY extra to test out the early release for FD? So you can do the QC bug hunt for them?

I like the game, but PASS on the early release money grab.
if u thint it is an unaceptable thing u just have the option to dont pay for it dude, i want the access to the alfa from the deep of my soul and i am paing for it, u dont need to fell bad if u are not going to pay.
 
I fully understand the stance of "why pay to be a tester?", waiting until release day and saving £10 is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned.

Naturally I paid for alpha access as soon as the Frontier store was accepting payment, my choice, my money, and my time, all being spent very selfishly as I, personally, would like to be 'in' on the very first day we can get our hands on the DLC.

Others need not worry about me spending my money on this, I am happy with the decision ;)
 
If not for yourself, stop using pre-orders for your children. Won't someone think of the children?!?
My children are all growed up and have children of their own... Am I heck gonna think of the children.... This is my time for fun, before they carry me out in a pine box...
 
if u thint it is an unaceptable thing u just have the option to dont pay for it dude, i want the access to the alfa from the deep of my soul and i am paing for it, u dont need to fell bad if u are not going to pay.

Dude! I never said that it was "unacceptable", you can do what you want with your money, I'll do what I want with my money.

But let us be clear about this, some of the other betas weren't purchase required, I paid for one, once, no more. But this is monetizing, and FD is free to do so, particularly if they can get players such as yourself to pony up the shekels.

BTW, I don't feel bad at all, in fact I don't feel anything about this except to point out that you are paying to help FD hunt bugs.

Peace out!
 
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