Am i VR ready?

Knightshark

Knightshark
Considering getting a Rift for 550 Euro, which seems ok for me.
But I am not sure if my CPU will make it.
I am still running with an i7-870@2.93GHz. It's not an issue with any game. I have a GTX 1070 OC and 16 GB Ram. So that should be ok.

Upgrading my CPU is not an option, since this would also require a new Mainboard.

So, do I get the Rift now, or do I wait for the next generation and buy a new PC then?
 

[VR] Frank_G

[VR] Frank_G
You are good to go and will get decent results in Elite. Go for it :)

(i started Elite VR with an i5 and a GTX 970 and 16 GB RAM and could play in VR medium - you will most likely be playing in VR high settings at a good framerate)
 

Knightshark

Knightshark
Really? The CPU is not an issue? Of course, I would love to hear that, but the i5 2550 is still ~35% faster than my i7 870.
 
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[VR] Frank_G

[VR] Frank_G
I checked at GPUBoss and it is indeed 40% below the i5 i own... so i guess, you will need confirmation from someone who has actual hardware to compare. Sorry for the mis-information :(
 

Nagual

Nagual
Knightshark said:
Considering getting a Rift for 550 Euro, which seems ok for me.
But I am not sure if my CPU will make it.
I am still running with an i7-870@2.93GHz. It's not an issue with any game. I have a GTX 1070 OC and 16 GB Ram. So that should be ok.

Upgrading my CPU is not an option, since this would also require a new Mainboard.

So, do I get the Rift now, or do I wait for the next generation and buy a new PC then?
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You could download the Steam VR checker program, it will tell you..

http://store.steampowered.com/app/323910/SteamVR_Performance_Test/
 

Knightshark

Knightshark
Knightshark said:
Downloading now, and getting ready to be disappointed.
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I pass the Steam VR test (11, best score), but the test explicitly states that it does not account for the CPU tracking cost and that I should check the min. recommendations for the headset and game. Rift minimal CPU is Intel i3-6100, which is still 35% faster than my CPU.

So, still not sure what to do. :/
 

A D

A D
Knightshark said:
I pass the Steam VR test (11, best score), but the test explicitly states that it does not account for the CPU tracking cost and that I should check the min. recommendations for the headset and game. Rift minimal CPU is Intel i3-6100, which is still 35% faster than my CPU.

So, still not sure what to do. :/
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My thoughts and prayers go out to you.. its a line-ball decision! [where is it]

P.S. Just to make your decision more difficult :). I have an HDK2 which has "positional tracking" which doesn't work that well. I figured since I am sitting on my behind for ED didn't need positional tracking and disabled it. Found that ED works well just with head movement and I got a performance boost. So, if the CPU does the work for positional tracking (I don't know that it does) and you mainly play ED, then you may get across the line using a similar work-around (albeit for different reasons).
 
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Knightshark

Knightshark
Seems like Occulus explicitly warns to use the product if minimal specs are not met, and there are several reddit threats where users report bad performance with older CPUs (which are still better than my). So, sadly, i guess thats no VR for me this generation. There simply is no other reason than VR for me now to upgrade, because all games run flawlessly in 3840x1600 ultra wide.


On the other hand:
A D said:
P.S. Just to make your decision more difficult :). I have an HDK2 which has "positional tracking" which doesn't work that well. I figured since I am sitting on my behind for ED didn't need positional tracking and disabled it. Found that ED works well just with head movement and I got a performance boost. So, if the CPU does the work for positional tracking (I don't know that it does) and you mainly play ED, then you may get across the line using a similar work-around (albeit for different reasons).
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Damn you :p

Is positional tracking different from head tracking?
 
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[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Knightshark said:
Considering getting a Rift for 550 Euro, which seems ok for me.
But I am not sure if my CPU will make it.
I am still running with an i7-870@2.93GHz. It's not an issue with any game. I have a GTX 1070 OC and 16 GB Ram. So that should be ok.

Upgrading my CPU is not an option, since this would also require a new Mainboard.

So, do I get the Rift now, or do I wait for the next generation and buy a new PC then?
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should be ok just about but it is cutting it fine. my main question would be your usb 3 ports (the rift is fussy) but for 20 quid you can get the approved pcie usb 3 card anyway.

there is a chance if you run the oculus system tester it will fail however, as that is pretty strict on what it will and wont pass.... gut feeeling... you will be ok, BUT i must admit if it was my money on the line i would be posting these questions on the oculus forums where you will get a much richer number of experiences.

edit,.... any chance you can overclock that i7 a little more?

PS you could probably pick up a 2nd hand sandybridge / ivy bridge generation mobo/processor for not much money, i tend to use avforums for all my 2nd hand stuff, much better than fleabay.
 
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Nagual

Nagual
Knightshark said:
Is positional tracking different from head tracking?
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Positional tracking means if you lean forwards, backwards or tilt your head to the side your view will change to match the position of your head.

Head Tracking is just the looking up, down, left, and right. Such things like EDTracker do this for a lot less than a HMD.
 

Knightshark

Knightshark
Nagual said:
Positional tracking means if you lean forwards, backwards or tilt your head to the side your view will change to match the position of your head.

Head Tracking is just the looking up, down, left, and right. Such things like EDTracker do this for a lot less than a HMD.
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I use these features with my TrackIr, but they are not important.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Nagual said:
Head Tracking is just the looking up, down, left, and right. Such things like EDTracker do this for a lot less than a HMD.
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Captain Willard said:
VR is not here yet., but keep on supporting them. Someday soon it will work.
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still a lot less fun than a HMD tho... however once you go full 6DOF, it would be hard to go back imo

im(very biased VR fanboy)o ED without VR is a pretty, high budged but otherwise fairly lacklustre port of Elite which oolite generally matches and often beats in some areas.

but ED WITH VR is one of the most immersive games i have ever played, and every lacking feature, or broken mechanic is largely rendered moot, because I get to fly IN my spaceship.

so for those who say VR is not ready yet................. I respectfully disagree, for me it is what makes ED still worth playing after the 1st 100hrs have worn off and why i am still here after 1500hrs.
 
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Nagual

Nagual
Mad Mike said:
still a lot less fun than a HMD tho... however once you go full 6DOF, it would be hard to go back imo
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Agreed, but if cost is a factor using EDTracker is like that too, it's hard to play without one. I've messed around with a friends Rift and the difference is incredible, as you'd expect. Hopefully in a few months I'll be joining the VR crowd too.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Captain Willard said:
LOL You go I tried a VR simulation at military level, many years ago. Incredible. Gonna take awhile longer for us peons.
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you say many years ago and thought it was incredible? such is the way of technology I feel if you have not tried an oculus rift / vive now you may really have no clue. I think you may be surprised.... there is a good chance the modern consumer available VR headsets will knock spots off the many 1000s of pounds of "military level" hardware of yesteryear.

unless you are talking about fully self contained simulators with hydraulics and using the actual cockpit of a real aircraft for instance.... but then that is not really VR imo, as its not really virtual. (in which case i agree - v cool and V expensive but you are comparing apples to oranges !)
 
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