An interview with one of Elite Dangerous' most hated

Wonderful decision on the journalist part, it's rare to see such integrity in journalism these days. Zarek Null is without a doubt a combat longer, therefore a cheater and as such no promotion of this individual should be done and be acceptable to promote this game. I could care less if he shoots defenseless sidewinders in Eravate.

I menu logged (a Frontier-allowed action) a handful of times *6 months ago*. I've not done it since, except once when Potter was using an exploit to gank me inside a coriolis space station, which is an exceptional case (though again, by game rules, we're allowed to menu log *any time*). Yet at least weekly, I receive accusations from strangers that I'm a habitual combat logger. I've even received personal threats against me. I was investigated for combat logging twice by Frontier and found not guilty both times. This is what my "combat logs" look like on my end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHB_aFd0nI8 -- the game errors out when I'm in combat. It happens frequently. It's annoying. But I am not a cheater. I was never a cheater. Logging out from the game is not cheating, it's just using the game UI in a manner designed by the developers. A game that considered the act of ending your play session to be cheating would be ridiculous. Only task-kill combat logging is cheating as it's an exploit, and that is not something I've done. And as a favor to the community I've not menu logged either, even though its not technically cheating.

I have 3.5 billion credits. I can lose many many ships and still be fine. I have no motiviation to "combat log".

I'm not a cheater, but you may be guilty of defamation. You post negative accussations on a public forum about someone you don't even know, and for which you don't know the facts (and your facts are wrong). You are perpetuating a sentiment that has lead to people raising personal threats against me. Why do you do this? Do you want to see me get swatted or doxed or killed in real life? Are you that committed to your malicious lie that you want to see me physically harmed?

The problem is not that I combat log (I don't). The problem is that dozens of people *lie* constantly, writing on the internet that I am a relentless combat logger. They use bad inference: I saw two 6-month old combat logging videos, therefore it follows that Zarek Null *constantly* combat logs, to this day. Wrong--two videos really only proves two combat logs half a year ago. Do you understand why your logic is flawed? If I saw a video of a man slipping on the ice, it would obviously be a false move of logic to then exclaim "he slips on the ice *every day*, *multiple times a day*, even months later!". People read the lies and fallacious logic, then they also start writing them elsewhere. And it basically went viral. But in reality, I don't combat log.

I've not broken any rules. But several ED communities do have rules against naming-and-shaming. And that's exactly what you're doing. So in a way, you're the "cheater" by breaking the general etiquette of the ED community. Therefore, you defintely do not deserve an interview. We don't want to glorify petty slanderers and shamers in this community.

What you should think twice about is why naming and shaming is often disallowed. There are cases of people killing themselves in real life from online humiliation. Fortunately for you all I am exceptionally thick skinned. But you have to ask yourself: is the risk of pushing someone over the edge, into death, really worth it just so you can complain about occasionally being unable to blow up imaginary spaceships?
 
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Logging out from the game is not cheating, it's just using the game UI in a manner designed by the developers.

It may not be cheating, but neither is it the right thing to do - displays a lack of integrity. You understand how it could make folks think less of you?

(and that's not to suggest that I am either for or against your roleplay and whatever you do gank-wise).
 
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It may not be cheating, but neither is it the right thing to do - displays a lack of integrity. You understand how it could make folks think less of you?

(and that's not to suggest that I am either for or against your roleplay and whatever you do gank-wise).

Did you not just read that I stopped menu logging six months ago? I learned people don't like it and I stopped.

And how do you reply? By writing *another* public proclamation of my lack of integrity (heaping on even more shaming). Do you not understand that online public shaming (which you are now engaged in) is more than a mere lack of integrity--that it can get people killed in real life? It shows a reckless disregard for others.

It never ceases to amaze me how relentless people can be in their efforts to slander me.

...<waiting for the next insult>.
 
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And how do you reply? By writing *another* public proclamation of my lack of integrity (heaping on even more shaming). Do you not understand that online public shaming (which you are now engaged in) is more than a mere lack of integrity--that it can get people killed in real life?

I hate to break it to you but you're really not that important.
 

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Did you not just read that I stopped menu logging six months ago? I learned people don't like it and I stopped. It shows a reckless disregard for others.

And how do you reply? By writing *another* public proclamation of my lack of integrity (heaping on even more shaming). Do you not understand that online public shaming (which you are now engaged in) is more than a mere lack of integrity--that it can get people killed in real life?

It never ceases to amaze me how relentless people can be in their efforts to slander me.

...<waiting for the next insult>.

Relax, man.... I wasn't trying to slander or insult you, I was simply pointing out that menu logging displays a lack of integrity. There seems to be a good portion of the community who condone and practice it, and they excuse the behavior because "meh, it's not against the rules". I find that mentality to be disappointing, and was merely pointing that out.

Understand that being the ganker that you are, you're going to take flak from people whether that flak is based in reality or not. Part of your modus operandi is subjecting new players to grief, and people are going to want to lash back at you any way they can, in-game or out.

OK, so this person or that person accused you of logging. Who cares what they think? Just roll with it - condemn the practice and keep playing your game...

...I like you Zarek. You seem like an OK guy. I'd be happy to do stuff with you, like go to the Renaissance Fair or something, if I could be certain you weren't going to speak to me with a fake english accent all day :)
 
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I have received real-life personal threats over all of this. But thanks for adding yet another banal insult to the pile.

Phew! You're still with us. I got worried there.

How's it going, buddy?
 
Relax, man.... I wasn't trying to slander or insult you, I was simply pointing out that menu logging displays a lack of integrity. There seems to be a good portion of the community who condone and practice it, and they excuse the behavior because "meh, it's not against the rules". I find that mentality to be disappointing, and was merely pointing that out.

Understand that being the ganker that you are, you're going to take flak from people whether that flak is based in reality or not. Part of your modus operandi is subjecting new players to grief, and people are going to want to lash back at you any way they can, in-game or out.

OK, so this person or that person accused you of logging. Who cares what they think? Just roll with it - condemn the practice and keep playing your game...

...I like you Zarek. You seem like an OK guy. I'd be happy to do stuff with you, like go to the Renaissance Fair or something, if I could be certain you weren't going to speak to me with a fake english accent all day :)

I don't grief new pilots. I merely govern them.
 
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I don't grief new pilots. I merely govern them.

There you go, kiddo! That's the Overlord of Eravate that we all know and love!

Now come on, wipe your nose on ol' Vin's sleeve and scamper off for some more space adventures :)
 
Hmmm, so Harry Potter has heard of me, but you (whoever you are) haven't heard of me. I wonder which of the two matters more?

After pages of laughing at OP digging his own hole, came across this classic. If you are basing your fame on being known by somebody who obviously has no real life because it's all spent in this game, I fell really sorry for you. Do you need to seek notoriety on such a thin thread in something so inconsequential as a video game?
 
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I was simply pointing out that menu logging displays a lack of integrity. There seems to be a good portion of the community who condone and practice it, and they excuse the behavior because "meh, it's not against the rules". I find that mentality to be disappointing, and was merely pointing that out.

"integrity" has nothing to do with it, once FD gave the all clear for menu logging as a graceful exit - then people can use it all they like.
If you want to declare menu logging is a lack of "integrity", then you are being deliberately insulting towards someone who uses a legitimate exit.
(I have no problem with you saying it, but at least be honest about it :p )

It's the same as those unarmed player traders/explorers who get killed by heavy combat player ships, for no other reason than the player wanted to do it - that is not "griefing", as FD said it is a legitimate part of the game.
So by calling that player a "griefer", the person is insulting that PvP'er for the sake of it (and yes, I have been guilty of this in the past - but at least I'm not trying to claim it was anything other than me being mean to another player).

Now if you want to be insulting towards people who do actual Alt+F4 / network cable/router turn off combat logging... I'm right there with you, but can we use something other than "integrity" - as insults go, that's a bit dull :p :D

(For the record, I have never combat or menu logged versus another player - I personally don't see why anyone would want to play with others then cheapen the whole experience by doing either, Respawning is part of the learning curve of the game.)
 
Relax, man.... I wasn't trying to slander or insult you, I was simply pointing out that menu logging displays a lack of integrity. There seems to be a good portion of the community who condone and practice it, and they excuse the behavior because "meh, it's not against the rules". I find that mentality to be disappointing, and was merely pointing that out.

Understand that being the ganker that you are, you're going to take flak from people whether that flak is based in reality or not. Part of your modus operandi is subjecting new players to grief, and people are going to want to lash back at you any way they can, in-game or out.

Don't worry about it. I just needed a way to grow this thread to 32 pages, and it needed to look legit.
 
After pages of laughing at OP digging his own hole, came across this classic. If you are basing your fame on being known by somebody who obviously has no real life because it's all spent in this game, I fell really sorry for you. Do you need to seek notoriety on such a thin thread in something so inconsequential as a video game?

I want to retract that comment. Potter doesn't matter anymore now that I beat him by default in our match earlier this week, when he didn't show up for the fight.
 
I want to retract that comment. Potter doesn't matter anymore now that I beat him by default in our match earlier this week, when he didn't show up for the fight.
You mean when you failed to show up for the fight that you challenged him to

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange..._fdl_vs_zarek_null_anaconda_mario_bros_style/

https://m.twitch.tv/videos/149773966?desktop-redirect=true

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Dert .€;5586955 said:
Why hasn't this thread been closed yet? It's just trolls trollin trolling trolls. With No new information

Hey, me and my new friend Zarek are engaged in some intimate self discovery here. So take your dismissive attitude and dangle, pal.
 
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