Funny thing is, I play with other Australians and we all have never been disconnected while in a combat situation. Even with our bad internet. There is no excuse for it. Like I said. You should not be playing in a multiplayer game mode if your internet is that bad. And if someone puts in a ticket to Fdev with video evidence of someone logging, well there is no excuse this is not punished with a ban. It's really pretty simple.
PvP An Investigation Into Frontier's Actions on Combat Logging, Part 2
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Funny thing is, I play with other Australians and we all have never been disconnected while in a combat situation. Even with our bad internet. There is no excuse for it. Like I said. You should not be playing in a multiplayer game mode if your internet is that bad. And if someone puts in a ticket to Fdev with video evidence of someone logging, well there is no excuse this is not punished with a ban. It's really pretty simple.
The engineers cheating was dealt with. Publicly. Evidently, combat log cheating is being ignored.
Cheating is cheating. it should be dealt with.
Quote from FDevs response on engineer exploitation,
did they just post it and not take action?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/358986-Community-Update-Engineer-Exploit-Action-Taken
I really would like to know if the playerbase still would resent to clogging,
if every job, every single loadout had better chances against each other
combat wise, due to removing engineers and hitpoint modules.
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It really wasn't "dealt with" other than having the exploit-obtained mods removed.
No real "punishment" or other consequences. No compensation for everyone they trolled and griefed over the entire year. No reason to truly set an "example" that discourages players from taking advantage of an exploit in the future.
FD can't "fix" combat logging because of the way the game is designed. They can't even monitor or detect it properly. It is therefore not possible to "punish" it.
Sorry but cheaters lose all credibility and no one will take them seriously. What you're suggesting is like Lance Armstrong telling players not to use steroids. It's just not going to be taken seriously.
A few people in PvP were involved with that - not even everyone in SDC was involved with that. Don't wrap up the entire PvP community/playstyle in the actions of a few people just to make your silly point.
The players that were involved were punished and their accounts were put on notice. Not even that hint of a wrist-slap happens for habitual combat loggers.
Most of us did our griefing with legit mods and continue to do so to this day.
Well FD did take an action by removing the modules,
the least they could to to combat proven clogging is to impound
a rebuy.
Your points can just be reflected and directed towards people
using clogging aswell.
It is a two sided sword,
careful what you ask for.
I for one welcome an investigation in these topics,
however i strongly dislike the abolishment of these discussion
by turning them into a feces slinging fest.
Stay factual and evaluate the test,
constructive criticism is a boon, not a doom.
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No. I'm saying, as someone who has never cheated, that cheating is cheating. It should be dealt with.
Nope.
Frontier NEVER OFFICIALLY came out and provided "any" details on what was done and which ships/players (if any) were actually removed from the game.
I have encountered ships that were obviously running just such exploited upgrades long after FDev "supposedly" eliminated the problem. I also know of none of the "well known" participants in these exploits having their account banned or otherwise removed from the community.
Really no idea where you got the idea that this was ever resolved to anyone's satisfaction. ????
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Oh man, this post just angered some grandpas! They're going to get so mad when they see the letters "SDC" and an indictment of their own cheating playstyles, alongside an indictment of Fdev for effectively defending it and lying about it. Lmao omg the level of 1984 EEEEEEEE in this forum is about to skyrocket.
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Goose4291
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Justification of cheating while bringing up the resolved engineers exploit issue to try to tarnish the OP with a strawman?
Good work Frontier Forums alumni. Perhaps to conclude we can shunt this off quietly into a corner to die like we do with anything that rocks the status quo boat?
I'm not "asking" for anything. I'm accepting that FD's choice in using a P2P architecture instead of a server-client model has consequences for the gameplay. Combat logging is one of those consequences. It can't be "fixed" at this point. FD has to use other methods to "incentivise" players from using it because they have no way to reliably identify or "punish" it.
SDC doesn't even understand the limitation of the game that they're complaining about.
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Why should Frontier do that in the first place?
They would harm privacy and openly name and shame the person,
it is understandable that these actions were not made publicly.
Therefore i welcome the test here,
putting oneself in the firing line to prove
or disprove a course of action.
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General:
As i can see the thread is young
but we already have reached a very
kindergarden attitude again.
Please dear mods do not close the thread,
but do your job and get people into the line of discussion
that is fruitful and beneficial.
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I just want to see a proper experiment...and results. So now, everyone knows they can pull the plug once per month and not have to worry about getting caught! They need to up the ante with more accounts until they reach a level where they are guaranteed to get banned...and then, please publish that number!
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Powderpanic
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Yes... Bet ED is so full of exploits its hard to know which one they will actually start to care about and when.
The engineer issue was reported and ignored.. So many figured.. hey, its just like all the others ones and its fair game
If you have EVER stacked missions by rolling modes, please leave your ivory tower and close the door on the way out.
Using the above rolling and exploit that was 17 Draconis, I made over 5 billion by watching netflix and dumbfiring at skimmers..
But.. I still have my money because... well... Thats ED for you
FDEV will be upset when this story gets out making their game look bad...
The irony of this post coming from an SDC member is gold, pure gold!
I do have a question though. I’m admittedly not very up to snuff on PvP or CL’ing as I’m a peaceful Mobius player, but couldn’t the PvP players just block people confirmed as combat loggers so that they never come across them in Open again? Peaceful players block griefers and that seems to do a decent job of it, wouldn’t the same tactic in reverse do a decent job of ensuring that player killers would never again cross paths with the cheaters?
If this thread was a study on human behaviour,
we would see true to the old saying:
"How a person reacts and writes,
paints a clear image of himself."
The "Tumble Weeds" you see in your typical OPEN session is actually the community's response to PvP in Elite Dangerous. Most prefer not to bother even going there considering it's tarnished reputation for "continuing" to be an unaddressed haven for cheaters.
This is why SOLO and Private Groups are far more popular.
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