So basically you've admitted to being party to a witch hunt, on the basis of an exploit that was used by players of ALL kinds, and the PG invasion made by a tiny, tiny minority of them.
This is exactly why this forum is so embarrassing. You are all proud of your ability to stick your fingers in your ears and fling dung at the first sign of the letters "PvP" without taking into account...just about anything.
OP raised a valid and proven concern with regards to actions that affect not only the odd trader, but some seal clubbers and the like that are also too incompetent to handle risk. As with many requests raised by PvP folk, it's a well considered attempt to improve Open play on the whole; if you read through SDCs proposal around C&P, there is some very real and very harsh punishment in line for certain criminals, alongside effectively nothing to encourage seal clubbing.
Of course, just much easier to see the letters "PvP" and throw a tantrum while yelling "grief0R alurt!", aye?
Just noticed that.
Why is this in PvP?
Witch Hunt my Perfectly formed Bottom!!
I am telling you how the the PvP community is regarded by the majority of the players I've talked to.
You've only just noticed that those people now consider PvP a bad word ???
It's because of the actions of the Mobius invasion and the Engineering exploit which was perceived as a PVP thing. That is why the amount of sympathy they have for people crying when a Seal Clubber can't get a kill because of a combat log is a big fat zero and that the PvP community only have themselves to blame. You upset that people don't want to play with you if you go out to spoilt their game on purpose?
Now I've already told you, people going all out for PVP who want to. NO Problem with that. People who fly in open have to be aware of these things. If there was a better way (or any ) for people to track wanted Player ships (Wouldn't PvP people want that because you'd get more combat against willing opponents?) then I think Combat Logging would probably more of a concern to most players, because if a Griefer combat logs (as Morbad has shown); there would be more complaints.
Now I'll say again, Frontier need to publish figures showing how many people have been banned and why (but not who) and I'm hoping to heck that the Karma system will give them meaningful data to work with.
As this is purely a PVP issue so surely it belongs in the PVP Subforum?
(Hoping that I was civil enough)
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