Fdev apparently wasted my time with all reports of loggers.
An investigation into Frontier's actions on Combat Logging
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So SDC kill players in game, so what? That doesn't mean they are lying about this. They've seemingly caught FDev out, that's not 'running roughshot' over them, that's just calling out dishonesty.
If it makes FDev confront the issue and stops them being evasive and vague on the issue then its a good thing.
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"Non-consensual PvP" - REALLY? You sign the consent form by playing in Open,
What if FD turned around and said 'combat logging is a risk you take playing in open', which they could with no greater loss of face than when they said it'd be really hard to destroy ships? That would seem to solve all the issues addressed in the OP's post.
Is this what you want? Sounds fair to me. Can't complain about cheating, it's the consent form you signed by being in open.
I'm outspoken against NCPVP only. No problem with what SDC do amongst themselves:
Played plenty of computer games, no consoles. Quite right about the MMOs, I've no interest in them. I've played maybe three or four multiplayer games. Only one involves PVP, all consensual. I'm 38.
Anything else?
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Fdev wasting my time saying I should report loggers. It takes a while to upload videos in Australia
Besides, would you respond to this thread?
Pointing out is not.
This is.
If I were Frontier, my response would be: go for it. These clowns think they're so important and can bring Frontier as a company to their knees, let them make spectacles of themselves.
Sure PC Gamer might post an article, sure Sole Hunter will yelp with glee when an article on the interweb mentions a little group he's a part of, something which Dr Kaii and Erimus also managed to do without all the dramatics (in effect: if SDC puts all their manpower to work and goes huffing and puffing they're almost as noticeable as two innovative CMDRs, which is actually high praise for SDC), and after a week ... we'll all be lonely tonight, and lonely tomorrow
[video=youtube;TxbIU0X-lCI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxbIU0X-lCI[/video]
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Oh LOL, you're Elite version of Walter Peck. I have no sympathy for the likes of you.
verminstar
Banned
Thats assuming all scripts are designed to be used with pvp...but however. Its the case of not worrying too much over obvious cheats versus their complete inability to deal with more subtle cheats. If they cant deal with the obvious stuff, then all hope is lost dealing with les obvious cheats and those who know how literally get an official thumbs up, a wink and a nod so to speak.
And it really doesnt get more obvious than being placed on a silver platter at their feet...to not act on it requires an explanation otherwise as already mentioned...players will draw their own conclusions which will only serve to amplify the consequences of the threats to their reputation. Those not in the know will believe it more readily...those being prospective new players...?
Food fer thought.
FD have no issues with people blowing each other up in Open, consensual or not. That's the bottom line really.
Open is dangerous, and that's how it should be. You can still be social, just accept that's there's risk involved and prepare yourself and your ship for it. Otherwise Mobius exists if you want peace, love and harmony with other players.
If I were Frontier, my response would be: go for it. These clowns think they're so important and can bring Frontier as a company to their knees, let them make spectacles of themselves.
Sure PC Gamer might post an article, sure Sole Hunter will yelp with glee when an article on the interweb mentions a little group he's a part of, something which Dr Kaii and Erimus also managed to do without all the dramatics (in effect: if SDC puts all their manpower to work and goes huffing and puffing they're almost as noticeable as two innovative CMDRs, which is actually high praise for SDC), and after a week ... we'll all be lonely tonight, and lonely tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxbIU0X-lCI
I agree, the fuss these people are making about combat logging is ludicrous. If someone logs out when you try and kill them then tough-luck, move on.
Looks like the story is being covered by the gaming news:
http://segmentnext.com/2016/11/23/e...ers-are-deliberately-ignoring-combat-logging/
Maybe now FD will comment [noob]
http://segmentnext.com/2016/11/23/e...ers-are-deliberately-ignoring-combat-logging/
Maybe now FD will comment [noob]
you missed from your combat logging is bad section: "Because we love to murder and grief unwanted/innocent traders"
What insight into Frontier do you have which makes your post have any semblance of truth?
What insight into Frontier do you have which makes your post have any semblance of truth?
Do you think that Frontier maybe have better things to do than pander to a small subset of people generating combat logging reports just to 'test' them?
I for one would rather that support time went on restoring people's accounts when they have been destroyed by bugs in the game, or some other issue which severely impacts their gameplay. Combat logging might be annoying, but the fuss made about it on these forums is out of all proportion to the problems it actually causes.
I for one would rather that support time went on restoring people's accounts when they have been destroyed by bugs in the game, or some other issue which severely impacts their gameplay. Combat logging might be annoying, but the fuss made about it on these forums is out of all proportion to the problems it actually causes.
Yes mate, because of the implication.
What happens if both players stay connected to the transaction servers but not each other (whether that's because of poor internet conditions or malicious action)? If they both get split into seperate instances, how do you handle that? What if one player forces a disconnection then relogs into solo before they're destroyed? What if someone sniffs another player's IP (which their computer has to know for P2P to work) and blocks them or pulls a denial of service attack? It's not as clear cut as you make out.
You could try replacing anyone who disconnects unexpectedly with an NPC copy of their ship. (so "CMDR Bob Everyman" becomes "Bob Everyman") and whatever was happening can carry on happening. That works even if both players are still connected to the transaction server but it's still open to organised abuse - Player A has a type 9 full of gold, he forces a disconnect so Player B can pirate the NPC he leaves behind. Also it's obviously not going to go down well with the players for who pvp is about upsetting the other guy rather than any in-game gains. There's not really any clean, fix-all solution.
Yip totally agree, forget Combat Logging for gawds sake about 2% of the whole community gives a stuff, the rest of us are more concerned with fixing the matching making server and the wings crashes getting fixed.
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I'm sure the nation is on tenterhooks
CNN and the BBC are about to pick it up, the developers are on there way to the airport destination unknown.
sorry it's all getting a bit too stupid to take seriously.
But they scream and stomp their feet.
That's the relevant media sites they were talking about in their threats?
Also, the ads. Man loses weight, woman loses weight, 2 about eyesight, 2 about 70 year olds, one about grey hair, one about testosterone, one about "3 simple steps to get any woman to obsess over you". So if this site gets someone who has cookies and ident information blocked it defaults to overweight geriatric androgens with poor eyesight who are looking for a woman to date?
Is that a common demographic for videogame top 10 websites?
verminstar
Banned
Could even be bigger than brexit and trump...'ducks to avoid head trauma from flying objects'
CNN and the BBC are about to pick it up, the developers are on there way to the airport destination unknown.
How so? I bought this game cause it said you could pirate players or bounty hunt them. Combat logging has killed those ideas....
But cause I play the game differently to you me right? lol