An investigation into Frontier's actions on Combat Logging

I do not expect, but it not means i am worse than You. It means i am different. Deal with it and move on.
If you do not like PvP then do not PvP. Simple.

Got bullied in school, huh? No success in job, no girl, no future huh? its sad that for people like you griefing on weaker players is the only joy you can have in your miserable life ;)
 
Got bullied in school, huh? No success in job, no girl, no future huh? its sad that for people like you griefing on weaker players is the only joy you can have in your miserable life ;)

I am afraid you will not make money as psychoanalyst :)

Try to discuss without offending. Don't badger other people because their way of blazing trial is different and fully legit by developer.

Frontier made rules here. People are just playing. There was a lot of propositions of chage crime and punish, fix combat log. Griefing is a symptom of it. FD need to cure the cause.
 
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The combat log in ED is an issue between TIME SPENT and RISK is unbalanced. This game is a GRIND FEST, A TIME CONSUMER AND A LUCK BASED. Check all those elements and you have this kind of situation. With the 2.1 RNGINEER, and its wheel of fortune ship module update a gap have been created between casual gamer and hard / farmer and lucky players.
In same time, combat log sanction is a false debate and a nutshell as the OPEN represent only 20 % of the players, 80% are playing on the SOLO server. If player are in this situation it is because of FRONTIER who don't give player more fun to play.

IN ELITE DANGEROUS, to have FUN you need a lot of credits, but FRONTIER do everything to reduce the credits gain.

AS many time said CREDITS > SHIPS > MORE ACTIVITY > FUN, NO CREDITS > NO SHIPS > NO ACTIVITY > NO FUN > COMBAT LOGGIN.
 
But if that is how you want to play, you can happily do that in Solo or Group without worrying about such things....

Not really Agony.

Imagine the Drunks of Sol all want to get together and go to the noob systems - chucking out containers of free beer and gold and whatever for all the new players so they can get some free cash. It's only possible in Open.

Now imagine the Grumps of Extreme Magnitude are in the same system - blowing up everyone in their instance. There would be a right mess, bits of noobs and exploded beer everywhere :(
 
Got bullied in school, huh? No success in job, no girl, no future huh? its sad that for people like you griefing on weaker players is the only joy you can have in your miserable life ;)

I dont agree with him either but thats a bit much[down]
 
The combat log in ED is an issue between TIME SPENT and RISK is unbalanced. This game is a GRIND FEST, A TIME CONSUMER AND A LUCK BASED. Check all those elements and you have this kind of situation. With the 2.1 RNGINEER, and its wheel of fortune ship module update a gap have been created between casual gamer and hard / farmer and lucky players.
In same time, combat log sanction is a false debate and a nutshell as the OPEN represent only 20 % of the players, 80% are playing on the SOLO server. If player are in this situation it is because of FRONTIER who don't give player more fun to play.

IN ELITE DANGEROUS, to have FUN you need a lot of credits, but FRONTIER do everything to reduce the credits gain.

AS many time said CREDITS > SHIPS > MORE ACTIVITY > FUN, NO CREDITS > NO SHIPS > NO ACTIVITY > NO FUN > COMBAT LOGGIN.

Somewhat over simplified IMO. There are a whole host of people who play for the exploration and discovery. Others that play for chilling and others that play to progress other aspects of the RPG element. Money is not the be all and end all by any means.
 
I am afraid you will not make money as psychoanalyst :)

Try to discuss without offending. Don't badger other people because their way of blazing trial is different and fully legit by developer.

Frontier made rules here. People are just playing. There was a lot of propositions of chage crime and punish, fix combat log. Griefing is a symptom of it. FD need to cure the cause.

Oh you feel offended? So you dont like me to talk that way to you because you didnt agree in the first place? Huh? Dont want to be in a fight with me when I start it, right? Interesting...

But griefing somebody and shooting him up without him agreeing to it is fine on the other hand?
 
I do not expect, but it not means i am worse than You. It means i am different. Deal with it and move on.
If you do not like PvP then do not PvP. Simple.

I usually avoid PvP. But sometimes, you know, I´m jumped by a wing of four. Without any reason. If there was at least a little bit I could relate to in this attack. But all I can sense you do it for your personal satisfaction.

And here´s the point: I´m different than you. I like other things in game than you. Deal with it and move on. Elite provides a framework. If a PvPer is to lazy to find himself some reasoning from inside of this framework, I´m sorry, but then I can´t support you with my presence.

And I understand I will not be able to change your mind, I don´t want to. But I also don´t want to play with you. It´s rather easy. Let me block you, you can block me and we are both having the game we want.

Simple. ;)
 
If you do not like PvP then do not PvP. Simple.

That's summarizes indeed what all PvE players want. The thing is, for that there is only solo and private groups so far, no official PvE mode. Plus, we often get derided for "hiding in solo", being "carebears" etc.

The one ultimate solution to all PvP vs PvE debates would be an official PvE mode where CMDRs cannot damage each other, then relabel open play as "PvP" and declare once and for all that anything goes. Then no one can complain if they go into PvP mode and get blown up, by choosing PvP mode you consent to any PvP.
 
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Oh you feel offended? So you dont like me to talk that way to you because you didnt agree in the first place? Huh? Dont want to be in a fight with me when I start it, right? Interesting...

But griefing somebody and shooting him up without him agreeing to it is fine on the other hand?

I do not care of you agree with me or not.
You are just rude, and this is not a way of discussing here.

Playing in Open is agreeing to any consequences of interaction of player. You can say 'hallo mate' and other person (or NPC) can, or not, gank You.
Its a consequence of Your choice. You chosed Open then You agreed for that.

Open do not means its PvP. Open means anything is possible. PvP may happen or may not.

If you disagree for negative interaction with players then play in Solo.

The one ultimate solution to all PvP vs PvE debates would be an official PvE mode where CMDRs cannot damage each other, then relabel open play as "PvP" and declare once and for all that anything goes. Then no one can complain if they go into PvP mode and get blown up, by choosing PvP mode you consent to any PvP.

Only if PvE mode will be separated from Open. I dont mind Open PvE, but players in pve group should not influe Open PvP and they should not be able to switch to other group (at least with a delay). Of course the same for Open PvP or other modes.

No more BGS griefing what Mobius did to some other group.

Want play PvE? Nobody have problem with that. The problem is Group/Solo modes can influe on Open galaxy and players can easily get assets in carebear modes and then grief other players in open. Thats why there should be other CMDR slot, a delay with mode switch or whatever.
 
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I do not care of you agree with me or not.
You are just rude, and this is not a way of discussing here.

Playing in Open is agreeing to any consequences of interaction of player. You can say 'hallo mate' and other person (or NPC) can, or not, gank You.
Its a consequence of Your choice. You chosed Open then You agreed for that.

If you disagree for negative interaction with players then play in Solo.
So ruining somebodys game is not rude at all or what?
 
I never understood why somebody would log out of the game just to save a few credits. What is the point of having credits anyway? That was the first lesson I learned in Elite. Don't fly without a rebuy, and If I want to play the game without being shot at, I won't play on the pvp server (open play)
 
Not really Agony.

Imagine the Drunks of Sol all want to get together and go to the noob systems - chucking out containers of free beer and gold and whatever for all the new players so they can get some free cash. It's only possible in Open.

Now imagine the Grumps of Extreme Magnitude are in the same system - blowing up everyone in their instance. There would be a right mess, bits of noobs and exploded beer everywhere :(

Are there no noobs in Mobius? I thought they had it all.
 
I usually avoid PvP. But sometimes, you know, I´m jumped by a wing of four. Without any reason. If there was at least a little bit I could relate to in this attack. But all I can sense you do it for your personal satisfaction.

And here´s the point: I´m different than you. I like other things in game than you. Deal with it and move on. Elite provides a framework. If a PvPer is to lazy to find himself some reasoning from inside of this framework, I´m sorry, but then I can´t support you with my presence.

And I understand I will not be able to change your mind, I don´t want to. But I also don´t want to play with you. It´s rather easy. Let me block you, you can block me and we are both having the game we want.

Simple. ;)
Play in solo or PG,simple ;) ... this game have set concrete conditions and play mods. Either find your favourite one or play another game. Really, it's simple so much. Btw I'm not cmdr attacking others, but post like yours clearly say how much players do not understand ED game modes.

This thread makes me wish the internet had a solo mode :p

ROFL, rep added :D
 
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That's summarizes indeed what all PvE players want. The thing is, for that there is only solo and private groups so far, no official PvE mode. Plus, we often get derided for "hiding in solo", being "carebears" etc.

The one ultimate solution to all PvP vs PvE debates would be an official PvE mode where CMDRs cannot damage each other, then relabel open play as "PvP" and declare once and for all that anything goes. Then no one can complain if they go into PvP mode and get blown up, by choosing PvP mode you consent to any PvP.

Open play is not PvP.
 
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