An Open Letter to Mobius

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Background - I have been a member of Mobius for 1 month now, and have spent perhaps 20 hours in this private group, never once were the rules of the Mobius group infracted upon.

Today I was removed from the group known as Mobius, the reason behind the removal was given because I am also a member of a group in open called The Code. It is a fact that 2 players who also happen to be Code members, invaded Mobius, events happened a year ago, taking place before I even joined.. Lets put this in perspective, banning the whole of Code, because of association of 2 members out of more than 300 members. Was the action of these 2 players officially sanctioned by Code? no.

The Code's official stand point, since this isolated event, is to prohibit it's members from mode invading private groups, this has been stated publicly by Code's PR representative Gluttony Fang, to clarify a mode invasion is the act of joining a private group specifically to break it's rules.

Why is this relevant? one guy, excluded from 1 private group? because the reason given is discriminatory.

Discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit. This includes treatment of an individual or group based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or social category, "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated". It involves the group's initial reaction or interaction going on to influence the individual's actual behavior towards the group leader or the group, restricting members of one group from opportunities or privileges that are available to another group, leading to the exclusion of the individual or entities based on logical or irrational decision making.

It is assumed I am Guilty by Association. History is littered with discrimination, against race, religion, sex, thankfully the worst forms of Discrimination are relics of the past. Where discrimination exists, it should be put under a spot light, so that its ugly face is exposed for all to see.
 

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It is assumed I am Guilty by Association.

Hm, while I understand your Point - Hostile by Association is actually a current, valid Military term.
From my understanding, Mobius Group can freely permit or remove any Members at their Founder's own will. No rights or entitlement to join, it remains a request - all based on Mobius personal judgement only.

I'd advise you to take this into the Mobius Forums, where it can likely be much more directly discussed.
Chances are, there you might find a Solution and get access again.

It's worth a shot after all.
(if it's a bigger concern of Mobius in general terms, possibly the Code leaders/representatives could make contact as well and discuss their respective positions on "higher echelon" so to speak)

Personally I'd have no isses seeing Code guys in Mobius - for as long as they stick to the basic rules just like everyone else does.
 
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I don't understand why your asking the question.

Private Group. Simple. Why on earth would you want to be in Mobius and Code? Polar opposites surely?
 
Background - I have been a member of Mobius for 1 month now, and have spent perhaps 20 hours in this private group, never once were the rules of the Mobius group infracted upon.

Today I was removed from the group known as Mobius, the reason behind the removal was given because I am also a member of a group in open called The Code. It is a fact that 2 players who also happen to be Code members, invaded Mobius, events happened a year ago, taking place before I even joined.. Lets put this in perspective, banning the whole of Code, because of association of 2 members out of more than 300 members. Was the action of these 2 players officially sanctioned by Code? no.

The Code's official stand point, since this isolated event, is to prohibit it's members from mode invading private groups, this has been stated publicly by Code's PR representative Gluttony Fang, to clarify a mode invasion is the act of joining a private group specifically to break it's rules.

Why is this relevant? one guy, excluded from 1 private group? because the reason given is discriminatory.



It is assumed I am Guilty by Association. History is littered with discrimination, against race, religion, sex, thankfully the worst forms of Discrimination are relics of the past. Where discrimination exists, it should be put under a spot light, so that its ugly face is exposed for all to see.
Mobius owns his group. He makes the rules. If he doesn't want someone in his group whose name starts with R and ends with E..I know not to apply.

He has made part of his groups rules to exclude all current, past, and future members of Code. Sorry...you no get to play in his group!
 
indeed... We all discriminate (to varying degrees) throughout our entire lives... It is also a group managers choice as to who is allowed in the group and who is not allowed etc... You can call it discrimination and it is in the sense that the manager has decided they do not want your presence in their group for whatever reason, but its not breaking ANY rules if a group manager decides they do not want you in their group no matter the reason why...

Stop crying 'unfair' and go back to CODE in open or as already suggested create your own 'private' group...
 
I don't understand why your asking the question.

Private Group. Simple. Why on earth would you want to be in Mobius and Code? Polar opposites surely?

Somedays you want to bite the bear...other days you don't want to bother. That is acceptable to do!
 
Because they can censor this post on their forums, they have no such rights here on FDs forum.

And you can twist your story here... If there is little to no trust to be found between you and them, then why even bother in the first place? You can remove people from your group for whatever reason you want, same goes for them.
 
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Perhaps a PM to Mobius would have been more appropriate. A public post like this will certainly only agitate. I sympathize with you, OP, but in the end, this is a personal matter.
 
you was banned because in another thread you threatend to exploit rules in their group and grief them didnt you

No, I made it 100% clear I have abided by the rules and I will abide by the rules in the future. It was not the reason given for removal, instead it was because of membership of Code.
 
No, I made it 100% clear I have abided by the rules and I will abide by the rules in the future. It was not the reason given for removal, instead it was because of membership of Code.

Semantics. You blatantly declared your intention to do something within Mobius that depended on new mechanics arriving with 1.5

Mobius shows leadership in pre-emptively removing at least one potential irritant from his group.

I'd even go as far as to say you've tried to engineer this whole non-drama by your earlier thread creation. Having had that backfire on you, you then proceed to create this new thread after the first one was closed.

You lose. Mobius wins. Goodbye.
 
I wish I could have sympathy for you, but you publicly declared that you wanted to join the group to undermine what the spirit of the group is about.

Do you have a link to that?
You're the second person to say that and as much a I despise some members of Code, guilt by association is a bit harsh imo.
 
Do you have a link to that?
You're the second person to say that and as much a I despise some members of Code, guilt by association is a bit harsh imo.

I will look it up. I was reading the OP thread on Guide to Dealing with code or something like that.
 
OP

Didn't your parents ever advise you to chose your friends carefully?

You should most likely take this up with them.

Maybe something along the lines of, "Mommy, some of the kids won't let me play with them."
 
@ mrspoonsi - I'm a member of the Mobius group and have no problem with you being in there with me. In fact, I think you'd bring a positive experience in the CZ either as a wingman or opponent. PVP experience anywhere is a good thing. I'll pm him, but you also have to understand that playing the discrimination card in this case is pretty weak. I'm a little embarrassed by your attempt there, but not enough to exclude you.

<edit> pm sent </edit>
 
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