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Guide / Tutorial ANCIENT GUARDIANS MISSION GUIDE,Step by Step;111MCr(was 201MCr)
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Thanks much for the guide.
I'm following route two and have a few questions. I'm at COL 173 Sector UU-O D6-20 C where there are Ruins 1 & 2. Doing ruins one now and can not find any maps for this site in the guide. Is this area not part of the mission?
Is there any notification that the mission is complete like a message from Ram Tah saying that is all he needs?
Thanks all.
I'm following route two and have a few questions. I'm at COL 173 Sector UU-O D6-20 C where there are Ruins 1 & 2. Doing ruins one now and can not find any maps for this site in the guide. Is this area not part of the mission?
Is there any notification that the mission is complete like a message from Ram Tah saying that is all he needs?
Thanks all.
As of today, it seems it is bugged and doesn't work anymore on Odyssey. Went for the first site , and all the totem thing had the same icons, the 3 I tried had the scan failed. All 3 had the same icons that mean nothing.
Logged back in Horizon, the totem had the proper icon showing, but unfortunately, Ram Tah mission is not transferred when you switch the client and I didn't have the mission.
Same totem thing :
I guess I should have known better.
TL,DR : if you want to do that quest now, start it in horizon and do it in horizon. Otherwise you can't do it in Odyssey apparently.
Logged back in Horizon, the totem had the proper icon showing, but unfortunately, Ram Tah mission is not transferred when you switch the client and I didn't have the mission.
Same totem thing :
Horizon :
According to both this guide and https://canonn.science/codex/ram-tah-decrypting-the-guardian-logs/ it means "totem + totem"
This is the same totem thing in Odyssey :
According to the previously linked Cannon article, it means nothing. Or perhaps it means "f*** you", who knows.
According to both this guide and https://canonn.science/codex/ram-tah-decrypting-the-guardian-logs/ it means "totem + totem"
This is the same totem thing in Odyssey :
According to the previously linked Cannon article, it means nothing. Or perhaps it means "f*** you", who knows.
I guess I should have known better.
TL,DR : if you want to do that quest now, start it in horizon and do it in horizon. Otherwise you can't do it in Odyssey apparently.
The displays are something new. Which might well be a good thing tbh.
The Ram Tah missions were only supposed to be temporary things for story progression. FD only kept them because people said they liked them and asked for them to be retained.
The coincidence of the new obelisk behaviour with Salvation and Taurus’s activities may indicate that there’s more to it than just an arbitrary change.
TL;DR - there’s a good chance that the Odyssey obelisk behaviour isn’t a bug.
Those are the old display. Nothing new. They also exist the same in Horizon.
They just bug and default to what I shown, instead of what they should be.
It was just a warning, in any case. Don't do the quest in Odyssey, it won't work. I imagine it still works on Horizon.
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Fair enough on the warning, no disagreement!
I was really just saying that it might not actually be a bug, before people start jumping to conclusions.
FWIW, I’ve asked multiple times now whether it’s intended behaviour or not. No joy so far.
BTW, I’m wondering if we’re meaning ‘the old display’ slightly differently.
Here’s what the original displays were like: https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/ (see the left hand animated version).
The key thing there is that there’s 3 sets of the display ‘grid’, not 2.
Are you meaning something different by the old displays?
I posted the link to cannon with all the "code" for what item is required. And a specific display, it's the same one. The horizon say "totem" twice, while the odyssey symbols means nothing.Fair enough on the warning, no disagreement!
I was really just saying that it might not actually be a bug, before people start jumping to conclusions.
FWIW, I’ve asked multiple times now whether it’s intended behaviour or not. No joy so far.
BTW, I’m wondering if we’re meaning ‘the old display’ slightly differently.
Here’s what the original displays were like: https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/ (see the left hand animated version).
The key thing there is that there’s 3 sets of the display ‘grid’, not 2.
Are you meaning something different by the old displays?
And no it's not like in your link, a lot more of the display is illuminated at once.
I said "old" because it's the same display than in horizon, but instead of showing the proper code and being unlocked when I scan it with the proper item (in this specific case 2 totems), it doesn't work.
People have mentioned new runes thing in guardian site recently (whether it's true or not), but those are not new.
Let me just recap the history to see if we’re on the same page.
- Guardian sites are found, first Ram Tah mission is in place. - during this period the display is as per the link I gave.
- 3.0 is released, 2nd Ram Tah is in place. - during this period the display shows the required artefacts, as per the Canonn guide.
- Odyssey update 11 is released. Displays are now an apparently random pattern similar to in 1, but with 2 sets of grids rather than 3.
The point being, if that display behaviour hasn’t actually been seen before, then it’s something new, which indicates it’s deliberate and not a bug.
I don't know ? I wasn't there for 1-2, which is why I was trying to do it now ! 
I posted the screenshot, the light move around, but it's more or less the entire thing which is illuminated. And no matter what, the beacon doesn't accept the proper combination, even if I have it thanks to the guide.
You can go and check if you want, it's the route 2, first beacon. The 3 on the side all looked the same.
I posted the screenshot, the light move around, but it's more or less the entire thing which is illuminated. And no matter what, the beacon doesn't accept the proper combination, even if I have it thanks to the guide.
You can go and check if you want, it's the route 2, first beacon. The 3 on the side all looked the same.
Oh, I don’t doubt what you’re saying about how the obelisk is currently behaving!I don't know ? I wasn't there for 1-2, which is why I was trying to do it now !
I posted the screenshot, the light move around, but it's more or less the entire thing which is illuminated. And no matter what, the beacon doesn't accept the proper combination, even if I have it thanks to the guide.
You can go and check if you want, it's the route 2, first beacon. The 3 on the side all looked the same.
It’s just a case of trying to figure out whether the obelisks are doing something new. I think they are, but couldn’t say for absolutely certain.
If it was a reversion to something that had been happening before, I’d probably just put it down to a bug. Whereas if it’s something new then that’s pretty likely to be intended, which is interesting!
I decided that I'd actually do (at least some of) the Ram Tah missions, so I began mission #1. I arrived at Synuefe TP-F B44-0, body D1 and found the Alpha site at the documented coordinates (aka: 'ancient ruins 1' on the Nav panel).
I picked up some of the Guardian objects found at the site and visited one of the obelisks to get the goodies when I had the proper items in the SRV hold- in this case a casket and an urn. Great. Onward!
The guide on the Canonn Research site lists a whole bunch of other obelisks at the site. When I scanned another obelisk, I got a message that seemed to indicate I would have gotten the same info except there are 'no additional traits' to be downloaded. It tried at a third group and got the same 'no further traits' message.
I got confused by this. Do I only need to scan one obelisk at the whole ruin-site, or do I scan them all and see this message repeatedly that there are no additional traits to be gotten? Why then are so many obelisks on the guide? Does it matter which one I scan first (are they in some order)?
Just for context, the guide lists the following obelisks on this planet: C1, C6, D1, G2, G3, J1, J5, M5, M10, M19, M20, N5, O7 (no pun), O15, O19, P7, and P9. Quite a number of them!
EDIT (and using this guide instead)...
I'm playing Horizons on PC, for the record here.
I went to the site at 59.33 Lat, 15.1 Long and did everything in order of the guide shown here on the first page of this thread, following the Route 2 and Maps/Graphics spoilers precisely.
There were a couple of minor artifact differences shown by the obelisks, most notably (I guess) was that #11 was Tablet, Orb, not Casket, Orb.* Perhaps more notable was the fact that all of the scans reported 'no new traits' and my total "claim" shown in the transactions tab for the mission is just 50000cr.
It's not like I'm concerned about the credits. I'm just making a report. I saw the notes in previous posts about the supposed temporary nature of the mission. It is possible that it is not fully working any longer. I'll explore here a little bit longer and then plan to try the second site** to see what happens there.
* Initially I thought there may have been a mix up with #19 so I was careful to pay attention when I reurned for the 19th scan. It is, however, still as shown in this guide (no change).
** HIP 39768
I picked up some of the Guardian objects found at the site and visited one of the obelisks to get the goodies when I had the proper items in the SRV hold- in this case a casket and an urn. Great. Onward!
The guide on the Canonn Research site lists a whole bunch of other obelisks at the site. When I scanned another obelisk, I got a message that seemed to indicate I would have gotten the same info except there are 'no additional traits' to be downloaded. It tried at a third group and got the same 'no further traits' message.
I got confused by this. Do I only need to scan one obelisk at the whole ruin-site, or do I scan them all and see this message repeatedly that there are no additional traits to be gotten? Why then are so many obelisks on the guide? Does it matter which one I scan first (are they in some order)?
Just for context, the guide lists the following obelisks on this planet: C1, C6, D1, G2, G3, J1, J5, M5, M10, M19, M20, N5, O7 (no pun), O15, O19, P7, and P9. Quite a number of them!
EDIT (and using this guide instead)...
I'm playing Horizons on PC, for the record here.
I went to the site at 59.33 Lat, 15.1 Long and did everything in order of the guide shown here on the first page of this thread, following the Route 2 and Maps/Graphics spoilers precisely.
There were a couple of minor artifact differences shown by the obelisks, most notably (I guess) was that #11 was Tablet, Orb, not Casket, Orb.* Perhaps more notable was the fact that all of the scans reported 'no new traits' and my total "claim" shown in the transactions tab for the mission is just 50000cr.
It's not like I'm concerned about the credits. I'm just making a report. I saw the notes in previous posts about the supposed temporary nature of the mission. It is possible that it is not fully working any longer. I'll explore here a little bit longer and then plan to try the second site** to see what happens there.
* Initially I thought there may have been a mix up with #19 so I was careful to pay attention when I reurned for the 19th scan. It is, however, still as shown in this guide (no change).
** HIP 39768
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Thank you for sharing your experience with this - I'm thinking about doing the Ram Tah missions for the first time, and I'm researching as much as possible before starting out !
o7
I just did the original mission with 101 scans to figure out if its still working after update 15 in live/odyssey. The simple answer is yes, but...
I used route 2, here are the systems of this route with the required ancient ruins. In the past several of them had another ruin next to each other, this is not the case anymore (except for the last planet). Due to odyssey all coordinates have changed.
SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 - planet CD 1 - first go to AR(3) to collect all artefacts needed and for the first scans. Then go to AR(1) to scan even more obelisks.
HIP 39768 - planet A 14 f - AR(2) - there seems to be one obelisks that displays other items than the guide tells you. Its the one labeled number 6 in the guide, it displays two caskets, with that you will get culture 9. If you have troubles with this obelisk the scan is also obtainable at the next planet.
SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-109 - planet E 3 - AR(2) - one obelisks at this ruin will only display one item but make sure you have totem+orb in your hold which you need for the next scan anyway. This way it will be guaranteed that you will get culture 7 from the obelisk. And dont forget the obelisk which is on the bottom right of the picture. Very easy to miss!
If you didnt get culture 9 at the last planet you can get it here as well. Go to the other beta ruin on SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-109 https://ruins.canonn.tech/#GR91 and scan K06 with totem+casket - which is coincidently the combination written in the guide.
COL 173 SECTOR OE-P D6-11 - planet B 3 - AR(3) - another one easy to miss at the top right
COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-59 - planet 8 b - AR(1)
COL 173 SECTOR XG-J C10-17 - planet A 2 - AR(1)
COL 173 SECTOR UU-O D6-20 - planet 6 d - AR(1)
COL 173 SECTOR UU-O D6-30 - planet 4 d - AR(2)
COL 173 SECTOR YG-A C15-20 - planet A 1 - AR(1)
COL 173 SECTOR OC-C B29-1 - planet A 4 - AR(1) - there are two ruins next to each other, a rare sighting nowadays
I used route 2, here are the systems of this route with the required ancient ruins. In the past several of them had another ruin next to each other, this is not the case anymore (except for the last planet). Due to odyssey all coordinates have changed.
SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 - planet CD 1 - first go to AR(3) to collect all artefacts needed and for the first scans. Then go to AR(1) to scan even more obelisks.
HIP 39768 - planet A 14 f - AR(2) - there seems to be one obelisks that displays other items than the guide tells you. Its the one labeled number 6 in the guide, it displays two caskets, with that you will get culture 9. If you have troubles with this obelisk the scan is also obtainable at the next planet.
SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-109 - planet E 3 - AR(2) - one obelisks at this ruin will only display one item but make sure you have totem+orb in your hold which you need for the next scan anyway. This way it will be guaranteed that you will get culture 7 from the obelisk. And dont forget the obelisk which is on the bottom right of the picture. Very easy to miss!
If you didnt get culture 9 at the last planet you can get it here as well. Go to the other beta ruin on SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-109 https://ruins.canonn.tech/#GR91 and scan K06 with totem+casket - which is coincidently the combination written in the guide.
COL 173 SECTOR OE-P D6-11 - planet B 3 - AR(3) - another one easy to miss at the top right
COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-59 - planet 8 b - AR(1)
COL 173 SECTOR XG-J C10-17 - planet A 2 - AR(1)
COL 173 SECTOR UU-O D6-20 - planet 6 d - AR(1)
COL 173 SECTOR UU-O D6-30 - planet 4 d - AR(2)
COL 173 SECTOR YG-A C15-20 - planet A 1 - AR(1)
COL 173 SECTOR OC-C B29-1 - planet A 4 - AR(1) - there are two ruins next to each other, a rare sighting nowadays
I just want to say that as of December 12th, 2023, Route 2 worked mostly fine. As Alkibiades says, there are no longer ruins next to each other with the exception of the last planet. Sadly, I deviated from the route to check some other ruins and structures and I lost track of the number of obelisks I had scanned but in the end I managed to get the 101 scans.
The reward was 111 million credits, not 201
The reward was 111 million credits, not 201
Thanks for taking the time to post this !I just want to say that as of December 12th, 2023, Route 2 worked mostly fine. As Alkibiades says, there are no longer ruins next to each other with the exception of the last planet. Sadly, I deviated from the route to check some other ruins and structures and I lost track of the number of obelisks I had scanned but in the end I managed to get the 101 scans.
The reward was 111 million credits, not 201
I am planning to do both missions in January, and it is really helpful to know it is still possible
o7
I just remembered that one or two obelisks had different symbols (Toitem instead of Urn or something), but I can't remember which ones. If you have doubts, here is the code of symbols and their meaning:Thanks for taking the time to post this !
I am planning to do both missions in January, and it is really helpful to know it is still possible
o7
Brilliant, thank you, and all the best !
Just completed this today using Route 1. All worked fine. If you're gonna run it. make sure you check off what you've got from each scan and check how much money you have earned at the end of each map in transactions. Then if you make a mistake you can go back and fix it before you travel too far
Thanks for the guide. Only issue was the Ruins are not numbered. Co-ordinates are useless now. Just meant flying round different ruins on the planet until I found the right one. Some of them are nearly identical on the same planet. So be careful. If you're in the right place and you have the right mats in your SRV and it won't scan. You may be at the wrong ruins. Each has subtle differences.
Thanks to all who put in the hard work for this guide
Thanks for the guide. Only issue was the Ruins are not numbered. Co-ordinates are useless now. Just meant flying round different ruins on the planet until I found the right one. Some of them are nearly identical on the same planet. So be careful. If you're in the right place and you have the right mats in your SRV and it won't scan. You may be at the wrong ruins. Each has subtle differences.
Thanks to all who put in the hard work for this guide