Anonymous Access - need help paying fines

Nukester

N
So I'm trying to pay off a fine I got (for helping to transport people out of Sol) - the anonymous access is applied to the Sol system due to the factions that fined me (4 separate factions).

One thing that's always confused me about paying off fines is that ED says you can pay fines only at stations where the factions that issued the fine are present, yet there's no option to pay fines in the system (Sol) where the factions are.

Just to clarify, is it that I need to go to 'another' system (other than the system the fine originated from) and it be a system with the same factions?

Can someone please explain as I've tried to figure it out and never fully understood the logic.
 

Viscera

Viscera
just seek out an Interstellar Factor nearby. pay it there.

Ross 154, Birkeland City for example. (according to Inara)
 
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Krieger

Krieger
You can pay off fines only in stations where the faction that fined you is the controlling faction. The help text is wrong saying that the faction merely needs to be present. However, if they don't own the station you'll have normal access and there's no problem. If the faction doesn't own a dockable station in the system you can't pay off the fine until they win a war and own a dockable station again.

NB: You can't pay off a fine at Interstellar Factors. Only bounties.
 

Robert Rockbite

R
Incorrect. I paid my fine at an Interstellar factor. And I also got a fine for trying to help people.
Full story:
Received a message requesting rescue support in Sol. Grabbed a ship and outfitted it. Did 1 rescue run. Got interdicted by some cheat goid. It stole some passengers. Lost about 9 or 10 passengers, I think. Got the rest to safety. Received a 10000 credits fine. What for? Loosing some passengers to some cheat goid? Went to interstellar factor. Paid fine.
And now I go mining. Let the cheat goid experts do the rescue work. Cheat goids are tolerable. Fines by a faction in a system in need are not. Fragging Inyalowda.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
C&P, stands for "Clunky & Problematic". It's such a mess...

The whole point of the distinction of fines and bounties is so you don't have to go to an IF to resolve minor crimes that only attract a fine.
 

Tifu

Tifu
I ran into a problem while running a rescue mission in Sol. Got hyperdicted heading to the rescue ship and lost my injured passengers, had to abandon 3 missions. Somehow I ended up being under anonymous access which I assume was due to a fine. Headed to Ross 154 and paid off my outstanding fines at the Intelstellar Factor there but I'm still banned from most regular services in Sol. Tried Galileo & Burnell station and both administrative contacts say I have no fines or bounties against me. Still banned though :confused:

I did use shock mines against the Thargoids while they were chasing me through real space. It's possible I hit an NPC AX defender without knowing it but I don't know for sure. Is there anything else I can do to try and lift the ban?(y)

*EDIT: the fines finally popped up after I logged out and logged back in again. Paid them off, all fine now (y)
 
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Atomik-Chimp

Atomik-Chimp
I have read everything I can find about fines but still only ever happen across ways to pay them. I can't remember what the last one was for but I read "go to the nearest interstellar factor to pay it" yet it didn't appear, then later I think I happened across another interstellar factor where I could pay it. Not sure why the first one wouldn't let me. It's all just a confusing mess for me.

Currently, I was trying to sell some stuff at the black market to unlock the dweller and got caught, so I ran, but I now have a galaxywide fine, it doesn't tell me what faction it's tied to. I went back to the station and went inside, it says "anonymous access, see the administrative contact to pay the fine" but no fines are available to be paid. I went to the nearby interstellar factor, again no luck.

This is incredibly frustrating, now whenever I'm in the area of the station if I get scanned by the wrong npc I get attacked, and I can't get clear of it, or figure out how to pay for it.
 

Uname654

Uname654
Robert Rockbite said:
Incorrect. I paid my fine at an Interstellar factor. And I also got a fine for trying to help people.
Full story:
Received a message requesting rescue support in Sol. Grabbed a ship and outfitted it. Did 1 rescue run. Got interdicted by some cheat goid. It stole some passengers. Lost about 9 or 10 passengers, I think. Got the rest to safety. Received a 10000 credits fine. What for? Loosing some passengers to some cheat goid? Went to interstellar factor. Paid fine.
And now I go mining. Let the cheat goid experts do the rescue work. Cheat goids are tolerable. Fines by a faction in a system in need are not. Fragging Inyalowda.
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Same happened to me. Only way to pay was to go to Interstellar Factor. Wasted lots of times visiting stations where the fine issuing pinkos were present.
I do not have any anti Thargoid mods for shields etc. Not going to waste time getting that stuff.
Packed up and left.
Hopefully I do not take a too huge loss on passenger cabins I bought just for this.

@Atomik-Chimp , I logged out before I went to Interstellar Factor. See, if it helps.
 

Pask

Pask
Robert Rockbite said:
Lost about 9 or 10 passengers, I think. Got the rest to safety. Received a 10000 credits fine.
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it's always worked this way, nonsense but...

personal advices tested on my skin.

to avoid Thargoid hatch breaker and FSD reboot missiles,
equip two ECM and DO NOT put on firegroups as some youtuber suggest, instead bind to a key so,
1. you do not have to deploy hardpoint to use ECM, and do not need to retract them to high wake out, plus you still be able to use while charging FSD
2. keybinding avoid to waste ECM charge, they will be always used in succession on key press, and avoid mistake like binding to same firegroup that will waste-fire all ECM at the same time
3. if you are using a size 5 FSD and do not need SCO, old but good Size 5 FSDv1 have a reboot of 2 second instead of 10 in case of ECM fail and FSD reboot missile hit you.

You can use a single ECM but two is safer, sometime you have 2x Scythe or a Scythe and Glaive mix on your tail, rest is personal taste.

Fines and Bounty
To use interstellar faction, the station must not be owend by the faction that bestow fine/bounty on you.
Click on this INARA link, i put filters to find nearest interstellar faction to pay bounty and fines, you have to modify your reference system and Faction Name NOT owned by, accordingly.
If you have problem to pay your fines or you payed and still in anonymous state, relog at station, this is an old bug never fixed.

Notoriety
if you have notoriety to purge and do not want to wait, just switch to a cheap small ship with a single weapon, to lower rebuy cost.
Go to a station, shoot at it, get blow up, you will respawn to nearest prison with notoriety zeroed, and you are "fine" to go.
P.S. I'm old and forgetful but I think there's still the bounty to pay, I don't remember for sure.

final note,
you can "avoid and wake out" or "fight", Scythe and Glaive can be handled even on a rescue ship, just pick the ship setup you like, as pure "EVAC" or a "CSAR"combat capable ship.
Old Phyton is good in both role, for pure EVAC there is plenty of choice.

Have fun!
 
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Knuttin Atoll

K
Pask said:
it's always worked this way, nonsense but...

personal advices tested on my skin.

to avoid Thargoid hatch breaker and FSD reboot missiles,
equip two ECM and DO NOT put on firegroups as some youtuber suggest, instead bind to a key so,
1. you do not have to deploy hardpoint to use ECM, and do not need to retract them to high wake out, plus you still be able to use while charging FSD
2. keybinding avoid to waste ECM charge, they will be always used in succession on key press, and avoid mistake like binding to same firegroup that will waste-fire all ECM at the same time
3. if you are using a size 5 FSD and do not need SCO, old but good Size 5 FSDv1 have a reboot of 2 second instead of 10 in case of ECM fail and FSD reboot missile hit you.

You can use a single ECM but two is safer, sometime you have 2x Scythe or a Scythe and Glaive mix on your tail, rest is personal taste.
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Or alternatively, you skip all this silly malarkey and simply relog as soon as you've been hyperdicted, just boost with FA Off to buy a few more seconds, and a fast ship helps due to the 15sec counter. No damage, no loss in cargo, no fines.

Obnoxious and unfun game mechanics get the appropriate player treatment from me.
 

Pask

Pask
Knuttin Atoll said:
Or alternatively, you skip all this silly malarkey and simply relog as soon as you've been hyperdicted, just boost with FA Off to buy a few more seconds, and a fast ship helps due to the 15sec counter. No damage, no loss in cargo, no fines.

Obnoxious and unfun game mechanics get the appropriate player treatment from me.
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If you don't find EVAC missions fun, don't do them.

it's not an alibi for cheating
 

Knuttin Atoll

K
I'm using all options the game offers to make it less of a chore. If Frontier doesn't like it they have the power to change that.

And I'm logging only against NPCs, not players, so the only person I'm cheating is myself. I just asked myself and yeah, I'm fine with that.
 

Tifu

Tifu
Pask said:
it's always worked this way, nonsense but...

personal advices tested on my skin.

to avoid Thargoid hatch breaker and FSD reboot missiles,
equip two ECM and DO NOT put on firegroups as some youtuber suggest, instead bind to a key so...

You can use a single ECM but two is safer, sometime you have 2x Scythe or a Scythe and Glaive mix on your tail, rest is personal taste.
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I can confirm that two ECMs will save your bacon even if your ship isn't that fast. It gives your FSD enough time to recover without being interrupted by yet another Thargoid missile.

Since I use shock mines to slow down NPC humans & Thargoids, I still bound my two ECMs to a fire group but turned off that blasted option that automatically deploys your weapon hard points whenever you fire any fire group. This gives me the same option to stow away my weapons but still be able to fire off my ECMs while the FSD is getting ready.

I'm seriously considering re-engineering another FSD drive for a faster boot sequence if things get worse at Sol 🤞
 

Nukester

N
Thanks for all the advice folks, found out there's a bug that doesn't show fines to pay off at the appropriate station (in my case, a station in SOL). When I logged out and logged back in, the fines showed up to pay for them. I'll have a look if it's been reported previously (probably, I'm guessing) but if not, I'll get it added to the tracker.
 

IstvaanDCIV

IstvaanDCIV
Knuttin Atoll said:
Or alternatively, you skip all this silly malarkey and simply relog as soon as you've been hyperdicted, just boost with FA Off to buy a few more seconds, and a fast ship helps due to the 15sec counter. No damage, no loss in cargo, no fines.

Obnoxious and unfun game mechanics get the appropriate player treatment from me.
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If your ship is cold and fast enough (i.e. a Dolphin with engineered thrusters), then you don't need to muck about with relogging, or even use the ECM if you're good enough.
 

Knuttin Atoll

K
IstvaanDCIV said:
If your ship is cold and fast enough (i.e. a Dolphin with engineered thrusters), then you don't need to muck about with relogging, or even use the ECM if you're good enough.
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I'm normally in a multirole Phantom, top speed 578 iirc. What was the max speed of those newer, annoying goid ships again (Glaive, or Scythe?) 800+? Genuinely can't remember. Those are what I'm talking about, normal interceptors etc I can easily outrun so I tend to observe whether they can close in on me or not before I decide to relog.
 

Atomik-Chimp

Atomik-Chimp
Uname654 said:
Same happened to me. Only way to pay was to go to Interstellar Factor. Wasted lots of times visiting stations where the fine issuing pinkos were present.
I do not have any anti Thargoid mods for shields etc. Not going to waste time getting that stuff.
Packed up and left.
Hopefully I do not take a too huge loss on passenger cabins I bought just for this.

@Atomik-Chimp , I logged out before I went to Interstellar Factor. See, if it helps.
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Thanks for the suggestion, no such luck. But I will also go back and try at the station where I got caught, see if logging out makes it pop up there at the administration person.
 
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