This is the way. Friend the aggressors too & you'll know where they are. If you start feeling paranoid about others being able to track you on the galaxy map it's easy to unfriend them (or just talk to them).
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This is the way. Friend the aggressors too & you'll know where they are. If you start feeling paranoid about others being able to track you on the galaxy map it's easy to unfriend them (or just talk to them).
Thanks to everyone for your support and especially to Helmut who brought Mobius to my attention, that's it! I sent my application immediately.
Good choice, but don't set your expectations too high. Personally, I play a lot in Mobius Eurasia, and while it has gotten busier, space is still big. You may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space, so it will still be the hotspots like CGs that see the most traffic.
Yeah, some people always push scaremongering about "OH NO THE GANKERS WILL FIND YOU AND GANK YOU AGAIN" while in my experience that's not even remotely true - and even if it were, it works both ways and you can see them coming. I've got a bunch of people who've tried to kill me on my friends list and it's a fantastic indicator of where the "hot" systems are today.
Welcome aboard.
When I started out the advice was to visit the engineers in solo. That generally slimmed down to Deciat these days and once you've got Felicity to lvl 5 and pinned a blueprint you shouldn't need to return.
There's a handful of 'popular' systems;
Deciat, Shinrarta, San Tu, Sol, and whatever system has a CG going on.
Those should be approached with caution, Solo and Block exist. Mobius is decent PG.
Once you have got some engineering under your belt the options expand quite a lot.
When I started out the advice was to visit the engineers in solo. That generally slimmed down to Deciat these days and once you've got Felicity to lvl 5 and pinned a blueprint you shouldn't need to return.
There's a handful of 'popular' systems;
Deciat, Shinrarta, San Tu, Sol, and whatever system has a CG going on.
Those should be approached with caution, Solo and Block exist. Mobius is decent PG.
Once you have got some engineering under your belt the options expand quite a lot.
I'd like to see someone win an interdiction against a ganker.
It depends on which ganker you're talking about.
It can be extremely hard against really experienced PvPers, but it's not at all difficult to evade interdictions of run-of-the-mill low tier career gankers (who are responsible for like 99% of the seal clubbing people tend to whine about in threads like this one).
Do gankers still try to interdict iCouriers? They are braver than I thought .
.That's fair, but in my experience it looks like I'm dead center to the escape vector and yet the bar doesn't stop rising for the opponent. Isn't it easier for the ganker due to engineering? Though mostly the advice now is to submit, plot and high wake before being obliterated. I once did start to give someone a somewhat good run for their money in Deciat with my gunship, but two wingmen dropped in and made light work of me.It depends on which ganker you're talking about.
It can be extremely hard against really experienced PvPers, but it's not at all difficult to evade interdictions of run-of-the-mill low tier career gankers (who are responsible for like 99% of the seal clubbing people tend to whine about in threads like this one).
This is exactly my experience too.
I think there is a difference between "brutal but not unfair" and "kinda hard but unfair". With "brutal but not unfair" I know my demise was because of my own mistake. This usually engages me and makes me want to learn the system. In "kinda hard but unfair", my demise was caused by something which is mostly beyond me and within my control, and therefore I don't feel the same urge to learn or master it, if none whatsoever.
Avoiding PvP interdiction, at least as an unengineered newbie against a G5 murderboat is, at least in my opinion, kinda hard but unfair. Being exposed to it didn't ignite a spark in me that would have made me practice it and learn to counter it.
Nah, engineering has nothing to do to anything happening in Supercruise regarding maneuverability or interdiction mechanics. It's only based on skill and ship type (sc maneuverability)
As an unengineered newbie against a well flown G5 murderboat you cannot do anything except avoid any interaction.
There are little to no chances of escaping.
Even later on, after you get to engineer your ship and you fly a build that can survive in open, the only thing you can do against a G5 murderboat is to high wake to another system (of course assuming you fly a trader, miner, mission runner, etc and not a g5 murderboat)
You will consistently have to that several times till the ganker gets bored and leaves you alone.
As far as i'm concerned, it's wasted time.
If i want pvp interaction, i will also fly a g5 murderboat.
If i want to do anything else that's not pvp related, i need to fly a ship that's not suitable to pvp and that means that i have to avoid any pvp whatsoever since pvp will prevent me from reaching my goals (trading, mining, mission running, whatever)
Edit: And IMO that's the main reason pvp and pve cannot really mix in ED.
IF they could find a way to remove the possibility of having murderboats in the game and have a much more level field in terms of outfitting, then it would only be a case of "git gud, newb!"
But i dont think that's possible. Not unless they tone down the weapons a bit, nerf the FDL and Mambas, and remove any possibility of using military stuff in non military slots.
That will provide a sort of level field since we will not meet a ship full of SCB and HRP/MRP while our ship is full of cargo racks.
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I don't see what it can possibly have to do with courage. I mean, iCouriers might be able to run away, but why would anyone be afraid of Sir Robin?Do gankers still try to interdict iCouriers? They are braver than I thought
Sounds pretty anecdotal. These kind of experiences don't tend to be supported by evidence like a video footage, for some reason. Just give it a try, interdict a friend and compare your recordings. Yes, the minigame is somewhat biased against the interdictee, but still it's possible to evade, as long as you are doing a better job than the player at the other end of the tether.
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Actually, in this exchange, I'm the novice and therefore I get to play the devil's advocate. I'm not saying I'm capable of doing it. Whereas, if you imply that you are capable of doing it, as if you a senior flight instructor, your schtick, not mine, is heading strongly towards "show, don't tell" territory. G5 FDL murderboat as interdictor, unengineered A-rated Krait Phantom as interdictee. Also, since superior skill doesn't manifest itself by chance, you'll likely evade... at least four times out of five? Imagine my embarrassment to witness it!
Dude, it was you who said thatActually, in this exchange, I'm the novice and therefore I get to play the devil's advocate. I'm not saying I'm capable of doing it. Whereas, if you imply that you are capable of doing it, as if you a senior flight instructor, your schtick, not mine, is heading strongly towards "show, don't tell" territory. G5 FDL murderboat as interdictor, unengineered A-rated Krait Phantom as interdictee. Also, since superior skill doesn't manifest itself by chance, you'll likely evade... at least four times out of five? Imagine my embarrassment to witness it!
the burden of proof is on you.
But okay, it was me who said it was possible to evade, so after a quick search here's a relatively recent video of evading a chain of player interdictions:
If you insist that it must be my video or you want to see both POVs, you'll need to come and interdict me (or vice versa) and we can share the recordings.
From what little I know of Galahad I don't imagine they are one to shy away from a fightActually, in this exchange, I'm the novice and therefore I get to play the devil's advocate. I'm not saying I'm capable of doing it. Whereas, if you imply that you are capable of doing it, as if you a senior flight instructor, your schtick, not mine, is heading strongly towards "show, don't tell" territory. G5 FDL murderboat as interdictor, unengineered A-rated Krait Phantom as interdictee. Also, since superior skill doesn't manifest itself by chance, you'll likely evade... at least four times out of five? Imagine my embarrassment to witness it!
I remember watching a Harry Potter video (years ago, I couldn't find it) where he evaded 5-6 interdictions in a row. It's a situation requiring fine control (as with fixed aim & FA-off). I've got 15,000 hours in the game and almost always just submit. I rarely actually get interdicted though.