Another which one question!

[jmp470]

I just built a new computer with the following internals:

Gigabyte motherboard, Gigabyte 1080 GPU, 16MB Ram, i7-6700 CPU.

My goal is to turn my kids playroom into a VR room for the family (for ED, but, don't tell the wife). So do I go Vive for walk around, or Oculus for ED?


Remember, it's for the kids

 

[Technomancer]

I think the kids would much more enjoy the Vive. I mean, let's say they're playing...oh...a space game, and they want to walk around their little spaceship!

Or maybe their game eventually evolves where they could land in a space station and walk around and talk to their little kindergarten buddies!

Kids have a lot of energy you know.

 

[requ1em]

watch this before you make a choice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agrc2OmAEYg

Remember as well that rift has the touch controllers out in November ish

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Don't get a rift as it requires Spyware to run. Steam and OSVR both are superior alternatives.

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

Don't get a rift as it requires Spyware to run. Steam and OSVR both are superior alternatives.

Oh get over it. If you pull the other one it has bells on. Practically every piece of hardware is sending usage stats back to the manufacturers now, from printers to 3D cards to yes, the Rift.
Care factor zero here, too busy enjoying ED.

As requ1em said, the Oculus will have controllers (Touch) around Xmas or so. If roomscale is really your thing and you want it now, Vive is the only headset to have controllers now.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Oh get over it.

I am over it. I'll never buy anything that requires software sending data to facebook. Ever.

I'll never support a company arrogantly trying to exclude other platforms by means of trying to call revive a hack, mentioning fake-DRM as a reason and only chickening out after observing it didn't work.

In fact I'd never install oculus home if I was paid for it even if it had innate Vive support.

I'd also never give a single cent to a company artificially trying to create exclusives in order to egostically fragment an already small market.

If you don't care, that's fine, but people not in touch with the subject should be informed before they decide.

 

[dogbite]

So you don't own Intel or Microsoft

 

[Lestenio]

For me, I had a DK2 for a year and had the same dilemma when it came to upgrade.
I couldn't get my head around room scale and didn't see the point. Then I tried it. Now I am convert and can't imagine a static standing still experience.

Room scale is what VR was made for and ight now that means Vive, but Oculus will get there in a few months.
I guess your choice is buy now or wait. Personally I am very happy with the Vive.

 

[Captain Sharky]

Couple months back I would've suggested Oculus. But now, after problems with their buggy software and dysfunctional customer support I recommend staying clear of it. Not sure if Vive much better, don't have one, but would have traded Rift for it with no regrets if can.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

So you don't own Intel or Microsoft

Intel invades peoples privacy who don't even use their products? They buy companies promising to not abuse their market share in order to appease gouvernments only to break the deal two years later?

I use Intel products since the 1980s. They never asked me for any data. I just bought their hardware and it worked.

I paid, it worked and they never tried to make me their peasant. No account, ID or phone number needed. Fair deal - unless you provide me with links providing the opposite, of course.

 

[Toshi_TNE]

Intel invades peoples privacy who don't even use their products? They buy companies promising to not abuse their market share in order to appease gouvernments only to break the deal two years later?

I use Intel products since the 1980s. They never asked me for any data. I just bought their hardware and it worked.

I paid, it worked and they never tried to make me their peasant. No account, ID or phone number needed. Fair deal - unless you provide me with links providing the opposite, of course.

Intel and MS don't need to ask you for data, they simply take it. Look up MS data farming in win 10 and Intel management engine. Intel vpro processor even have a remote access feature that can retrieve your data even when the computer is off. There are no saints here.

 

[jmp470]

I bought the Oculus Rift from Best Buy and have 14 days to try it out to see if I like. That is there no questions asked policy, so I will take advantage of it. I also upgraded to a 4K monitor too... I'm still looking at the vive too, however, I don't have the room for room scale, yet.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Intel and MS don't need to ask you for data, they simply take it. Look up MS data farming in win 10 and Intel management engine. Intel vpro processor even have a remote access feature that can retrieve your data even when the computer is off. There are no saints here.

I never mentioned MS as I'm aware they have become highly problematic, especially since win10. AMT is linked to the computer I use, not any unnecessary account, ID or private phone number.

I agree there are no saints, but Zuck is internet-cancer.

 

[dogbite]

{"I'll never support a company arrogantly trying to exclude other platforms by means of trying to call revive a hack, mentioning fake-DRM as a reason and only chickening out after observing it didn't work."}

But you will support a company that tried to exclude another platform by bullying chipset and motherboard manufacturers into not supporting Athlon when their technology was a serious threat to market share.Intel during Opteron release

{"I'd also never give a single cent to a company artificially trying to create exclusives in order to egostically fragment an already small market."}

Can you say Netscape boys and girls? Microsoft when they realized they had missed the boat on internet browsing.

Point is if you choose to vilify Oculus all the time you should at least accept none of these major corporations has clean hands when it comes to dealing with competition. Maybe you should find a nice peaceful hobby like say flying a spaceship and like the man said "Get Over It" . Your constant whining about Oculus and Facebook is getting stale.

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

I am over it. I'll never buy anything that requires software sending data to facebook. Ever.

I'll never support a company arrogantly trying to exclude other platforms by means of trying to call revive a hack, mentioning fake-DRM as a reason and only chickening out after observing it didn't work.

In fact I'd never install oculus home if I was paid for it even if it had innate Vive support.

I'd also never give a single cent to a company artificially trying to create exclusives in order to egostically fragment an already small market.

If you don't care, that's fine, but people not in touch with the subject should be informed before they decide.

Lol, this is pretty standard marketing fare now. Comapnies creat exclusives in the bare face of equivalent competition based on the most minor of differences.

But you're right, it is good for people to be informed and make their own decisions. I have no problem with conscientious objectors to Facebook and other internet marketing machines.

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For me, I had a DK2 for a year and had the same dilemma when it came to upgrade.
I couldn't get my head around room scale and didn't see the point. Then I tried it. Now I am convert and can't imagine a static standing still experience.

Room scale is what VR was made for and ight now that means Vive, but Oculus will get there in a few months.
I guess your choice is buy now or wait. Personally I am very happy with the Vive.

I love the idea of room scale, have a small play-space next to my desk. But I am not so sure my knees or back will handle it. I will more than likely buy Touch, but I'll be careful launching myself into something like Hover Junkers as one wrong move and I'll be in a world of hurt.

 

[dogbite]

I just built a new computer with the following internals:

Gigabyte motherboard, Gigabyte 1080 GPU, 16MB Ram, i7-6700 CPU.

My goal is to turn my kids playroom into a VR room for the family (for ED, but, don't tell the wife). So do I go Vive for walk around, or Oculus for ED?


Remember, it's for the kids

I agree with Technomancer and as you said it's for the kids. The Vive is currently more viable for a larger play space which will help tire out the rugrats. You can always hope FD gets their act together soon with any shortcomings in ED, otherwise they are fairly similar and by the time Touch arrives, nearly indistinguishable.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

{"I'll never support a company arrogantly trying to exclude other platforms by means of trying to call revive a hack, mentioning fake-DRM as a reason and only chickening out after observing it didn't work."}

But you will support a company that tried to exclude another platform by bullying chipset and motherboard manufacturers into not supporting Athlon when their technology was a serious threat to market share.Intel during Opteron release

{"I'd also never give a single cent to a company artificially trying to create exclusives in order to egostically fragment an already small market."}

Can you say Netscape boys and girls? Microsoft when they realized they had missed the boat on internet browsing.

Point is if you choose to vilify Oculus all the time you should at least accept none of these major corporations has clean hands when it comes to dealing with competition. Maybe you should find a nice peaceful hobby like say flying a spaceship and like the man said "Get Over It". Your constant whining about Oculus and Facebook is getting stale.

Whilst you're right considering MS and Intels behaviour when it comes to defend their market shares, you're missing my point.

I don't perceive lobbyism and aggressive marketing tactics a problem. That's the way business works since the idea of bartering was formed in some bronze-age village or most likely way earlier.

I didn't have a problem with facebook - it used to be a platform for naive, self-indulged narcissists posting selfies and "sharing" if they took a dump or mowed the lawn for whatever abstruse reason.

Never used fb as I consider those kind of people pitiful and I didn't have to use it. If they want to turn themselves into facebook-thralls, that's their decision.

Issues I have with FB/OR:

- I love VR.
- Unfortunately OR won't allow me to buy their software unless I become a facebook-serf, even if I use a Vive.
- They actually called user-made workarounds "hacks", then noticed it didn't work (surprise - early adopters mostly aren't fb-duckface posting teenage girls).
- They tried calling a blunt method to exclude Vive users a method of "DRM" and "anti-piracy" whilst the opposite is the case. Then they backpedaled when they realised their potential customers actually need any form of income and they can't feed of selfie-posting white-trash porno-trailer-park-teens.
- OR is pretty much like a car-salesperson trying to pickpocket your passport whilst trying to sell you a car. After you noticed it, he tells you he's listening and wont try again. Apparently, that`s enough for some.
- Two years ago, FB buys WA and only is allowed to do so because the promise the wont merge data.
- Two years later, WA exchanges data with FB. You never used WA or FB because you are aware they're Companies built on invading privacy. Never used WA or FB? You don't agree with every WA user sharing your contact data with FB?

Sorry kid. You're an FB file now - welcome to the Matrix. If you're interested in VR, you may only take the F-Pill.

And the only way to object is registering with FB.

Welcome to Zucklers Reich, curing the world of common sense.

 

[jmp470]

Wait, you need a Facebook account to use the Oculus? That's odd, because I have not used an account since 2008. I'm sure they have my info, as all data is easy to get.

 

[dogbite]

Last call. get over it

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Wait, you need a Facebook account to use the Oculus? That's odd, because I have not used an account since 2008. I'm sure they have my info, as all data is easy to get.

You don't need a facebook account because Oculus Home sends more data to fb than an actual fb account ever could.