Anybody else have had two for one in exobiology?

I'm at Wregoe ND-R c18-8 2 a Can anybody conform that there is two different species of brain trees there or is there a glitch going on on my end?

Should be Viridian and Rosum species. One has green brains other purple ones. Also, don't board the ship between scans these don't require long walk and all 6 samples can be obtained on a single stop.
 
Actually quite common to find 2 types of brain trees on planets in that area, whenever you find brain trees check on the organic information on the planet in the system map, one biological listed two boxes shown two types of brain trees to be found.
 
Brain Trees belong to the pre-Odyssey exobiology, and don't follow the Odyssey rules of one genus/species/variant per body. There are 8 'types' (I don't know if they are different species or variants: the game doesn't seem to make that clear), and some of them may share the planet with others, if the known conditions of life are fulfilled. (See https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Brain_Tree for additional details. the Codex shows known info only if you select the relevant region first ...)

While they can be used for mat collecting, their most interesting property is that they seem to appear 'in the neighbourhood' of Guardian sites. (The exact critieria don't seem to be well researched or documented.) There's some statistics here https://bioforge.canonn.tech/?entryid=brain tree but they seem to be incomplete in that at least one other source insists that some form of volcanism also needs to be present.
 
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Brain Trees belong to the pre-Odyssey exobiology, and don't follow the Odyssey rules of one genus/species/variant per body. There are 8 'types' (I don't know if they are different species or variants: the game doesn't seem to make that clear), and some of them may share the planet with others, if the known conditions of life are fulfilled. (See https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Brain_Tree for additional details. the Codex shows known info only if you select a region in which they appear first ...)
The old legacy Horizons surface bios use an entirely different (and significantly simpler) set of requirements than the newer Odyssey bios do, and the way they brought the legacy stuff over was to make each of them a separate species. So, even though the various brain trees are just colour swaps, like the variants of Odyssey plants, they are still their own species. This also means that just as before, more than one brain tree species can occur on the same world. If memory serves, the maximum is three? With a region restriction ruling out four.

Bear in mind that the Codex texts for Horizons bios weren't updated when Odyssey launched.

While they can be used for mat collecting, their most interesting property is that they seem to appear 'in the neighbourhood' of Guardian sites. (The exact critieria don't seem to be well researched or documented.)
Pretty well researched, see a summary here.
 
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Pretty well researched, see a summary here.

Well, kind of. But I probably failed to nail my question down well enough. What you refer to is (as far as I can judge) information about where brain trees have been found. That's not what I consider a criterium ... it is just observations of how such assumed criterium manifests itself. (I'm assuming the game places Guardian sites first, then brain tree sites are produced from those locations in some way.)

I was looking for something that would answer the question 'if I have found a Brain Tree, what volume of space would I need to examine to find a (probable) corresponding Guardian site?' and 'If I find 10 locations? 50? 100? on the same body, does that change the answer?' The 750ly distances mentioned are not clearly related to that question. The 100 ly ones might be, as that distance seem to pop up in several other contexts -- but if each such 100ly 'cloud' has multiple known Guardian sites reasonably well distributed, it probably is shorter.
 
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I was looking for something that would answer the question 'if I have found a Brain Tree, what volume of space would I need to examine to find a (probable) corresponding Guardian site?' and 'If I find 10 locations? 50? 100? on the same body, does that change the answer?' The 750ly distances mentioned are not clearly related to that question. The 100 ly ones might be, as that distance seem to pop up in several other contexts -- but if each such 100ly 'cloud' has multiple known Guardian sites reasonably well distributed, it probably is shorter.
Oh, it's pretty well known, documented and researched that Guardian ruins can be found in the same areas as brain trees, and no Guardian ruins have been generated outside of brain tree areas, nor the other way around. The game has criteria for a body to spawn brain trees (you can look these up in the Codex, here on the forums, Canonn site, and so on), with the most important being that the system is inside one of these Guardian / Brain Tree areas, and it also has criteria for a body to spawn Guardian ruins. (Not in the Codex, mind, you'll have to check third-party research for these.) The problem there is that there appear to be hidden variables in the latter, which cause most possible candidate bodies to not spawn the ruins, and only relatively few of them will have them. In other words, when it comes to ruins, the only 100% reliable criteria we have is for "this body will not have Guardian Ruins", and then we have "this body might have Guardian Ruins".

Now, take a look at some maps: for the "minor" Guardian bubbles, the 100 ly spheres centered on the nebulae, you can find the ruins all over the area, and within the two "main" Guardian bubbles, the 750 ly kind, you can find the ruins only in areas smaller than that, not the entire sphere. Frontier chose shapes there.

If you've found some brain trees, that means you're in a Guardian / Brain Tree area, and that's all the help you can get from the specific location of the brain trees you found. So, the answer to your original question: if you've found a brain tree, search inside the areas listed above. (If you found brain trees outside of them, do report it, plenty of people would be very interested - but it's highly unlikely, it has been many years since a new brain tree area has been found, and they aren't difficult to find.) Beyond that, how many brain trees you've found and on what body doesn't matter.
 
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The one outside IC 4673, the 750 ly Graea Hypue bubble. When exactly and who discovered it is difficult to tell, as the brain trees seem to have been added in 2018. Dec. along with the galactic regions: after all, its borders hug the then-new regions, and a report in early 2018 specifically looked for brain trees there and found none. See here. Of course, it could be possible that Edelgard von Rhein spent so much time surveying around there and somehow missed all the brain trees (even though they were specifically looking for those too), but I highly doubt that.

The Guardian ruins there were discovered some time later, although it's still debatable who was first. The first post I could find was a Russian player mentioning them, among many other things, but the first ruins that were found and specifically reported and uploaded had someone else's first discovery and mapping tags already on them.
 
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Oh, it's pretty well known, documented and researched that Guardian ruins can be found ...

So I go back to my statement 'not adequately researched or documented' that you objected to. As your answer provides no references, I stand by my original assessment. (Original documentation is strictly speaking the only material that can be analyzed and criticized. Anything else relies on possibly irretrievable or informal information, as well as the effects of time on memory. And perhaps I better say that 'no, I am not roleplaying' just in case this seems peculiar. I recently came across a mention that Michael Ventris, the main decoder of Linear B, 'always had a hunch that the language was Greek', which is contrary to statements of Ventris himself as well as his collaborator Chadwick. My posts here may be caused of some of the overflow from my intense irritation of such incorrect references elsewhere.)

Your idea that Brain Trees and Guardian sites are (more or less) independently generated from a location and a radius is new to me; I'll need to think it over to see if there are any possibilities of verifying it. Thanks for mentioning it.

Your answer might also clear up another issue I have had, namely that of some sources referring to an 'area of Brain Trees'. I had interpreted those to refer possibly and likely to refer to an area on the surface of the planet with the Guardian site(s), as the term primarily refers to two-dimensional space. Your answer does not make sense with that interpretation, so I will adjust my reading to refer to 'volume'. I will noting that 'area' on a planetary surface is naturally bounded by that planet, while 'volume' is unbounded and thus not an entirely convenient replacement term in the absence of a definition of boundary ... which is more or less where I started. You refer to the statement of observed (?) volumes in the referenced post, which I note and will examine further.
 
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The one outside IC 4673, the 750 ly Graea Hypue bubble. When exactly and who discovered it is difficult to tell, as the brain trees seem to have been added in 2018. Dec. along with the galactic regions: after all, its borders hug the then-new regions, and a report in early 2018 specifically looked for brain trees there and found none. See here.

Thanks for linking -- this is one I have not made note of, probably because ..., well, read on.

That may not be entirely correct, judging from the final report at the head of the cited thread. The first objective mentioned is 'to search for signs of spacefaring activity by other civilisations' in the target space. The last objective is 'The expedition will search for planet-side life and other features of interest' which turns out to be quite large. But nowhere are brain trees stated as a specific target.

While the original expedition report appears to have included relevant journals, they appear to have been lost or removed since. Some detailed reports seem to remain, though.

A complicating factor of interpreting the finds is that the research is pre-Odyssey. I judge from the minor reports and statements that FSS and DSS was not available as there is at least one mention of the author not being sure if any planet-based features were missed. If the results are well stated (I haven't gone into those) it may be worth revisiting (at least some of) the documented targets to see if current findings confirm the reported results.
 
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So I go back to my statement 'not adequately researched or documented' that you objected to. As your answer provides no references, I stand by my original assessment. (Original documentation is strictly speaking the only material that can be analyzed and criticized. Anything else relies on possibly irretrievable or informal information, as well as the effects of time on memory. (And perhaps I better say that 'no, I am not roleplaying' just in case this seems peculiar.
Like I said, that was a short summary. If you go look, elsewhere you can find plenty of data, references, documentation and such. It has been well established by multiple people, multiple squadrons even, and you can easily verify it yourself if you want to. I could send you my old notes if you'd like, but really, this isn't rocket science, all those notes were listing possible candidates from the crowdsourced data and then noting which ones I checked and had or didn't have brain trees, and listing distances to chosen systems too.

My posts here may be caused of some of the overflow from my intense irritation of such incorrect references elsewhere.)

Your idea that Brain Trees and Guardian sites are (more or less) independently generated from a location and a radius is new to me; I'll need to think it over to see if there are any possibilities of verifying it. Thanks for mentioning it.
Well, if you find any errors with the brain tree information, do please post them!

It's not entirely my idea though, it was fairly known for a long while, the thread was me compiling a short summary of the stuff that can easily be referred to, rather than repeating the same thing in conversation. As far as I know, I might have been the first one to determine (or the very least, report) the exact shape of the brain tree space around Hen 2-333, but it's not like that was difficult or long to do, as the center system was quite obvious. (Same goes for the ones around nebulae. Except the center then is the nebula's center, which cannot be set as a target.)
Oh, and for the record, the 100 ly for the nebulae is also an obvious distance, as the same limit is used for most (though not all!) other nebula-related checks too.

As for "area" vs "volume", the text I wrote back then was quite clear about not referring to a planet's surface. (Nobody uses ly there, after all.) My bad on that small mistake: in my defense, English is not my first language, and many people refer to any regions as areas, whereas volume is often first thought of as sound volume, which is why I would first refer to areas, regions (but that's present in-game already, so there could be some confusion there), sectors (same), zones etc. I'll fix this soon.

Thanks for linking -- this is one I have not made note of, probably because ..., well, read on.

That may not be entirely correct, judging from the final report at the head of the cited thread. The first objective mentioned is 'to search for signs of spacefaring activity by other civilisations' in the target space. The last objective (assuming that order reflects importance) is 'The expedition will search for planet-side life and other features of interest' which turns out to be quite large. But nowhere are brain trees stated as a specific target.
In the rest of the thread, there are plenty of instances talking about checking for brain trees specifically. By that final stop, it might have been a secondary prospect. Still, people have flown through that area plenty of times before, so they could have found brain trees too - I just didn't remember anyone else saying that they specifically looked for them there.

A complicating factor of interpreting the finds is that the research is pre-Odyssey. I judge from the minor reports and statements that FSS and DSS was not available as there is at least one mention of the author not being sure if any planet-based features were missed. If the results are well stated (I haven't gone into those) it may be worth revisiting (at least some of) the documented targets to see if current findings confirm the reported results.
You're incorrect, the FSS and the new form of the DSS were introduced in 2018. December, in the same Beyond: Chapter Four update that looks to have added the last brain tree ar... volume. Galactic regions were also added then, plus the brain tree variants - before, the only type was what's now known as Roseum Brain Trees.
Before that though, brain trees weren't exactly hard to find, as evidenced by them having been found quite quick after they were first added to the game. But they could still have been missed, which was why I wrote that it was still possible that the same survey missed them. Also why I said that it's difficult to determine who exactly first discovered that particular brain tree region and when they did so.
It wasn't common knowledge in 2019 (had plenty of more interesting things to look into, since the same update added NSPs), and by a few months into 2020, it was.
 
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