Anyone get dizzy?
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I've had shown the rift to a group of friends and some get immediately dizzy, literally in seconds, and some not at all.
My friend gets sick on a boat rides and has to take pills, and he got sick using the rift.
So it's not the same for everyone, you will have to try it I am afraid before commiting to it.
There are a couple games that i'v played that give me that, "falling" sensation while im flying around (im looking at you faceted flight) but i'v never had this problem with Elite. Even while boosting into a loop while barrel rolling. I don't know if its because i can see my characters body and arms that keep me grounded so well or what, but i can dog fight for hours with no problem.
Now for reference, apparently im one of the lucky ones who have no dizziness or nausea problems in the rift. I'd say if you are worried about it, definitely wait for the consumer version. The higher quality screen and faster response times made a huge difference from dk1 to dk2 as i imagine CV1 will be notably better than dk2 in that relm as well.
Now for reference, apparently im one of the lucky ones who have no dizziness or nausea problems in the rift. I'd say if you are worried about it, definitely wait for the consumer version. The higher quality screen and faster response times made a huge difference from dk1 to dk2 as i imagine CV1 will be notably better than dk2 in that relm as well.
I know peole that get dizzy with a regular monitor trying to play a 3D Game but I think one can get used to it if you give it time
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I have a buddy that couldn't stay in the rift for more than 5 minutes without having to take a break. He was trying to jump right into some fast paced FPS stuff. I got him to spend more time in non moving games like Sightline, cafe ame and coffe without words. All you do is sit there, and look around. Then we got into some simple movement fps games like Affected, Dreadhalls, Riftmax Theater and then Minecraft. Now that he is use to the rift world, he can play Half life 2 indefinitely whereas before he could only take in minutes at a time. So if you think you will have a problem, TAKE IT SLOW. Don't jump right into Half life or ED, start with demos where all you do is look around untill you are use to those, then take a step up. Once you start associating the Oculus Rift to feeling dizzy and sick, you're going to have a hard time breaking that association.
At first yes I felt very disorientated in the demo scene. I just gave myself a few mins not making sudden movements to adjust a few mins at a time. In Elite I get some very mild Nausea feeling sometimes when I have a point of reference to look at like inside a station or asteroid belt. It is not too bad now and never goes beyond very mild nausea feeling I'm quite used to the rift and I can happily fly through the asteroid rings pulling manoeuvres and getting as close as I can.
I tried the OR for a few minutes at lave con, felt travel sick quite quickly, I suspect this would be a short lived issue if I owned one.
I had the same problem with normal screens at first. I put this down being new to flight sticks. At first I think my eyes are dragged around in a way I wasn't expecting and this makes me travel sick. After a time you can predict what's happening and hand-eye coordination kicks in and it all becomes natural.
I've tested this in other earth bound first person games, if I swap the left and right movement keys, I can induce for a few moments that same giddiness as the screen moves in a way my eyes were not ready for or expecting.
I had the same problem with normal screens at first. I put this down being new to flight sticks. At first I think my eyes are dragged around in a way I wasn't expecting and this makes me travel sick. After a time you can predict what's happening and hand-eye coordination kicks in and it all becomes natural.
I've tested this in other earth bound first person games, if I swap the left and right movement keys, I can induce for a few moments that same giddiness as the screen moves in a way my eyes were not ready for or expecting.
Interesting that it's kind of random. I have played FPS games since the first Counterstrike beta and through to Battlefield 4 but can't anymore 
With Elite I'm fine though, I think because there's no head bob or fast movements. I think I'll wait until OR goes full retail and try it in a shop or something. Really hope I can use it though. Going to try the smartphone head track hack and see how I get on with that. Starting to feel my age
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With Elite I'm fine though, I think because there's no head bob or fast movements. I think I'll wait until OR goes full retail and try it in a shop or something. Really hope I can use it though. Going to try the smartphone head track hack and see how I get on with that. Starting to feel my age
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Interesting that it's kind of random. I have played FPS games since the first Counterstrike beta and through to Battlefield 4 but can't anymore
With Elite I'm fine though, I think because there's no head bob or fast movements. I think I'll wait until OR goes full retail and try it in a shop or something. Really hope I can use it though. Going to try the smartphone head track hack and see how I get on with that. Starting to feel my age
Cheers
I think you will be fine. The technology for seated experiences is so advanced now that if you do feel sick its because you would feel sick in real life sitting in a Cobra flying into a space station. Its not the OR at fault - its because you are flying in a space ship.
FPS's are different - your brain doesn't understand why you are walking and your legs aren't moving. In games like this I will feel sick in as little as 3 or 4 minutes. In Elite I have never had a problem. I have played as much as 4 hours without problems.
My rift turned up today and Iv'e spent about 5hrs in it off and on playing about with settings and flying around etc, thankfully i didn't experience any nausea but my eyes do feel a little all over the place but i guess that's to be expected with such a prolonged period of time.
I agree with what Pyro was saying, once your comfy and sat where you need to be just centralize the rift (i remapped mine to c as f12 crashes the game at the moment) look down and there is your body, the arms feel like a extension of your own and sort of gives you the feeling of a fixed point.
I only wish i got one sooner, the experience is just something else and the level of immersion is breathtaking.
I agree with what Pyro was saying, once your comfy and sat where you need to be just centralize the rift (i remapped mine to c as f12 crashes the game at the moment) look down and there is your body, the arms feel like a extension of your own and sort of gives you the feeling of a fixed point.
I only wish i got one sooner, the experience is just something else and the level of immersion is breathtaking.
I think if you are generally prone to motion sickness you may have a problem, but most people say you can acclimatise to it. I never have been and I'm fine with the Rift, just the Outfitting screens give me vertigo.
I can promise you, it's well worth the expense and effort. I used to have a car and a motorbike. Now I have a car, a motorbike, and several spaceships.
I can promise you, it's well worth the expense and effort. I used to have a car and a motorbike. Now I have a car, a motorbike, and several spaceships.
The reason people are getting sick at the trade shows and for demos is because the rift at the trade show is set to the human average of 63.5 and at peoples houses is set to the owners IPD, inter pupulary distance, or the distance between the center of their eyes.
Your brain has been taking the images of what your eyes have been sending you for <enter your age here> to create a 3d image. People are getting sick because when they put on a rift they are suddenly getting visual data that is set to an eye distance of the 63.5 for the trade shows. which is only average.
The human brain is amazing, but for something like that it cannot adapt to a change in the eye distance in a matter of minutes. Forcing it to go one direction to the rifts it might start to adapt, but then you take it off and it goes back, so you can never fully adapt to something other then what your eyes are. The side effect is the feeling ill because what it is seeing and the inner ear do not match what it is expecting.
I have heard of people that got a rift, felt sick and then immediately sold it because they could not get better and only feel sick. Then months later they try it at a friends house ( a friend that reads directions ) and they realize that they have to set their IPD in software and then have bought a second one and then properly set it up and have used it since.
Too many times I have seen people on the Oculus forums raging that they are feeling sick, and they never realize that they have to do setup to make it work.
Your brain has been taking the images of what your eyes have been sending you for <enter your age here> to create a 3d image. People are getting sick because when they put on a rift they are suddenly getting visual data that is set to an eye distance of the 63.5 for the trade shows. which is only average.
The human brain is amazing, but for something like that it cannot adapt to a change in the eye distance in a matter of minutes. Forcing it to go one direction to the rifts it might start to adapt, but then you take it off and it goes back, so you can never fully adapt to something other then what your eyes are. The side effect is the feeling ill because what it is seeing and the inner ear do not match what it is expecting.
I have heard of people that got a rift, felt sick and then immediately sold it because they could not get better and only feel sick. Then months later they try it at a friends house ( a friend that reads directions ) and they realize that they have to set their IPD in software and then have bought a second one and then properly set it up and have used it since.
Too many times I have seen people on the Oculus forums raging that they are feeling sick, and they never realize that they have to do setup to make it work.
This is just partially true, one problem with Rift is that all is very personal and there are no universal answers.
I feelt nausea even a couple of months after I got it, when starting a demo scene from utility and looking down at an empty chair, when I really believed that I am sitting in it
Any games when I'm on foot and running cause a bit of discomfort, ED is perfect, as I'm sitting, can se my body repeating my real life movement, helps a lot.
Using adjusters and setting a correct IPD helped me a lot with how clear the image is, but I do not feel that it changed a lot in case of dizzines. But this is my case, I think everyone can have a different experience.
I do agree that it should be made much clearer that Oculus only properly works wit 63.5 and needs adjustments for everyone else. I only realized it a month ago reading some posts.
I do not get dizzy, but there is some mild awareness when having played the Rift.
It can be compared when I ride a roller coaster in a teampark, I'm not sick nor dizzy afterwards but there is a mild sensation of disorientation and very mild nausea depending how severe the ride is.
At least that is what I get riding any roller coaster in a theme park.
I do not feel anything sitting in a room or doing static things with the Rift, but I guess when doing adventures (flying a Mig with crazy turns, space ships, massive rollercoasters,...) the fact that you get a little sick or disorientated is a testimony how 'true' the virtual reality experience is, because in real life doing those things I would get the same feeling, and that varies by person.
On a side note:
The reason people are getting sick doing these things is simple; the organ behind your ear that registers your physical balance.
When you eyes register conflicting things over what this organ registers, your brain is in conflict and hence turning sick (reading in car, backwards on a train, etc).
How sensitive your brain and that organ, I can't recall the name, varies strongly by person, some are VERY sensitive to it and some are not. Medicine against car sickness or travel sickness tones down that organ or brain effect (not that I'm implying taking this to play the rift, that euh questionable)
** Looking at a static object while moving (or believed to be moving using the rift) is one thing, but unstable frame rate or latency causing a stop in imagery accelerates the above discussed aspect so much it's almost a guaranteed trip to the toilet and vomit session, pardon my directness.
It can be compared when I ride a roller coaster in a teampark, I'm not sick nor dizzy afterwards but there is a mild sensation of disorientation and very mild nausea depending how severe the ride is.
At least that is what I get riding any roller coaster in a theme park.
I do not feel anything sitting in a room or doing static things with the Rift, but I guess when doing adventures (flying a Mig with crazy turns, space ships, massive rollercoasters,...) the fact that you get a little sick or disorientated is a testimony how 'true' the virtual reality experience is, because in real life doing those things I would get the same feeling, and that varies by person.
On a side note:
The reason people are getting sick doing these things is simple; the organ behind your ear that registers your physical balance.
When you eyes register conflicting things over what this organ registers, your brain is in conflict and hence turning sick (reading in car, backwards on a train, etc).
How sensitive your brain and that organ, I can't recall the name, varies strongly by person, some are VERY sensitive to it and some are not. Medicine against car sickness or travel sickness tones down that organ or brain effect (not that I'm implying taking this to play the rift, that euh questionable)
** Looking at a static object while moving (or believed to be moving using the rift) is one thing, but unstable frame rate or latency causing a stop in imagery accelerates the above discussed aspect so much it's almost a guaranteed trip to the toilet and vomit session, pardon my directness.
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I play ridiculously long hours on the rift , longest being about 12 hours . Actual game play in ship is completely fine and its an amazing immersive feeling . The only time I've ever felt slightly stomach sick is on the Galaxy map when rotating around in the map .
I will add its that good with the rift that I would play with a sick bag if I had too ;-)
I will add its that good with the rift that I would play with a sick bag if I had too ;-)
Statement of the weekend +1
I've played for hundreds of hours in the rift since I got it in Sept.
I get dizzy only at the spinning ship loading screen -- have to close my eyes.
I used to get post-rift dizzy when I first started, so bad that I'd trip on curbs and stuff. Brain was very confused about real world vs. rift world for about 2 weeks. It passed though, and now I'm fine no matter...just the spinning ship loading screen now.
I get dizzy only at the spinning ship loading screen -- have to close my eyes.
I used to get post-rift dizzy when I first started, so bad that I'd trip on curbs and stuff. Brain was very confused about real world vs. rift world for about 2 weeks. It passed though, and now I'm fine no matter...just the spinning ship loading screen now.
