Anyone testing planet coaster with new ryzen cpu?
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AndyC1
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Yeah, we'll schedule work on all the available cores. I can't promise we'll keep them all at 100% activity - that's much harder! But the more cores the merrier when it comes to PC.
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Andy
I just read a review and they are stating it's lack luster performance with gaming.
every review/benchmark I have seen says just the opposite, most cases it had better fps than its intel counterpart (peaking for the 1700x and 1800x chips only)
ya i just watched a dozen videos on benchmarks with the ryzen x1800 vs the 7700k. the 7700k won every single gaming benchmark, now thats a 500.00 amd cpu vs a 350.00 intel cpu. sadly amd ryzen seems to only outperform intel with multicore apps, like video rendering. i am so glad i didn't preorder the ryzen. i am disgusted with the results from amd, i had planned on buying it. i am also seeing the ryzen chip doesn't overclock well either, so thats a 4ghz amd speed vs 5ghz on the 7700k. i was so hyped for months over this and what a letdown :-(
this is a very trusted source from pauls hardware
[video=youtube;OXbOC_OyvG4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXbOC_OyvG4[/video]
this is a very trusted source from pauls hardware
[video=youtube;OXbOC_OyvG4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXbOC_OyvG4[/video]
What other games are they comparing and bench marking on that are CPU extensive more than Graphics like Planet Coaster is or Cities Skylines. I've watched a ton of videos and it seems the Ryzen is best for Creators and streamers over the 6900K since its twice the price. Yes.. the 7700 is the winner for JUST gaming but.. from what I saw.. none of those games are as CPU extensive as PC is. But since I'm not a big PC gamer.. I may be wrong as I don't play those titles on PC they benchmark
I've got a 5820K.. and trying to decide if I'm better off sticking with my purchase.. or upgrading..
I've got a 5820K.. and trying to decide if I'm better off sticking with my purchase.. or upgrading..
I think Anandtech has a strong and fair review at http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170...-7-review-a-deep-dive-on-1800x-1700x-and-1700 . Most of the other written reviews I've read start with a pro-Intel bias right on the first page. Intel has a very strong fan base. AMD also did a lot of damage back when they over-promised Bulldozer. Anandtech appears very fair.I just read a review and they are stating it's lack luster performance with gaming.
Ryzen falls right in between Broadwell-E and Kaby Lake for most use cases. I haven't seen a review that used Planet Coaster or Cities Skylines in their game benchmarks yet. That would be nice since shooters only tell us about single-core performance rather than the multi-core needs of simulation games. Intel retains the edge in single-core performance.
Personally, I run so much other stuff simultaneously with games that the extra cores in Ryzen are a no-brainer. There are some benchmarks where Ryzen and Broadwell-E destroy Kaby Lake in multi-core operations. That is the future. When I had the option of trading my i7-3820 for an i7-4930k (which I did) the single core performance was unchanged (therefore gaming benchmarks largely did not change), but the multi-core performance was dramatically different. I would expect the same jump with Ryzen, although the 1700 and 1700X seem to have a better cost to performance ratio than the 1800X.
I agree BigDragon. I stream on Twitch.. I also like to run a separate OBS at the same time for local records without the green screen and stuff from my stream.. later on.. transcoding and stuff on videos is important to me as well. The Ryzen SEEMS like the better choice for me over my 5820k.... on Paper. I really just wish people would stop using only First Person Shooters for benchmarking. Not every gamer is a dudebro call of duty guy. If I wanna play a shooter.. I'll play that on my xbox with my friends. My PC gaming habits consist of creation stuff. CIties, Planet Coaster, RCT3, Civilization.. and of course the survival games.. Conan, Rust, Dead by Daylight is also on my PC gaming list. I want to create a world and I want to record that creation process. Therefore.. more cores seems logical. Planet Coaster is maxing out my intel chip now when I let guests in and I've not even crossed 2000 guests yet. If I pause the game it gets better.. and then if I empty the park it gets way better
Planet coaster is a very different beast when it comes to the CPU/GPU workload... Until someone gets Ryzen system and really tests Planet Coaster, we won't know for sure.
I would personally love to see some tests with a 1700x, or 1800x, and a GTX 980ti or better equipped system.
We need a guinea pig!!! I'm saving up for a system, but I'm at least 6 months away from my goal....so I can't be the guinea pig.
It will be interesting how it stacks up against my high end i7 6700k where all individual cores can do 4.2Ghz and thats not overclocked. I wouldnt expect a HUGR performance with this new AMD tech. Youre still gonna run into lag with 20k people and a huge detailed park.
The GTX 1080 is still too expensive in NZ. The GTX 1080Ti sounds impressive but again even more expensive.
ive sent my desktop pc back to the nz company i got it from cuz its under warranty and has faulty ram. also told them i want to scrap the 1tb hdd for a samsung evo 850 1tb ssd. my laptop is too weak to run this game well so wait until my desktop comes back hopefully in the next 2 weeks. my desktop has an amd r9 390 which is better than a gtx 970.
The GTX 1080 is still too expensive in NZ. The GTX 1080Ti sounds impressive but again even more expensive.
ive sent my desktop pc back to the nz company i got it from cuz its under warranty and has faulty ram. also told them i want to scrap the 1tb hdd for a samsung evo 850 1tb ssd. my laptop is too weak to run this game well so wait until my desktop comes back hopefully in the next 2 weeks. my desktop has an amd r9 390 which is better than a gtx 970.
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I don't come here often anymore but knew Ryzen would pop up.
The reviews are rubbish. They are all doing things at 720p where it doesn't make sense to compare anything. Look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXVIPo_qbc4&t=1s
These are actual gaming FPS at settings that gamers actually use to play games not 720P low settings.
Further to that BF1 multiplayer shows Ryzen destroying the i7 7700K because Frostbite can use all cores/threads.
Now wit that if Frontier are saying that their Cobra engine can also utilise all cores/threads that Ryzen offers than you will also see improvements here.
Don't right off the Ryzen CPU's unless you game at 720p low settings with a GTX 1080 or higher and are expecting 200fps to be different to 160fps.
Further to that those figures are all missing that in the video you can also see issues with the 7700K having stutter compared to the Ryzen CPU. This and the minimum FPS are also greater for Ryzen which is good so I would say the 1700 that costs £320 and the 7700K at £310 then there is no reason not to be looking at the 1700.
Ignore the 1700X & 1800X as they are the same chip with just different bins and thus out the box performance, the overclock to get to 3.9-4GHz on the 1700 is easy enough to achieve and thus mitigates the two more expensive chips unless you really only want plug and play.
The reviews are rubbish. They are all doing things at 720p where it doesn't make sense to compare anything. Look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXVIPo_qbc4&t=1s
These are actual gaming FPS at settings that gamers actually use to play games not 720P low settings.
Further to that BF1 multiplayer shows Ryzen destroying the i7 7700K because Frostbite can use all cores/threads.
Now wit that if Frontier are saying that their Cobra engine can also utilise all cores/threads that Ryzen offers than you will also see improvements here.
Don't right off the Ryzen CPU's unless you game at 720p low settings with a GTX 1080 or higher and are expecting 200fps to be different to 160fps.
Further to that those figures are all missing that in the video you can also see issues with the 7700K having stutter compared to the Ryzen CPU. This and the minimum FPS are also greater for Ryzen which is good so I would say the 1700 that costs £320 and the 7700K at £310 then there is no reason not to be looking at the 1700.
Ignore the 1700X & 1800X as they are the same chip with just different bins and thus out the box performance, the overclock to get to 3.9-4GHz on the 1700 is easy enough to achieve and thus mitigates the two more expensive chips unless you really only want plug and play.
Thats assuming you win the lottery and get a chip that will OC easily enough.. My 8350 was not a lottery winner by any means.. I don't think my 5820k is either
CPU gaming benchmarks are done at low resolutions and/or detail settings to try and minimize the impact the GPU has on performance. When you're interested only in benchmarking CPU power it does make a lot of sense to benchmark at low detail. Overall though I do agree with you that people shouldn't be so quick to write off Ryzen. There is currently an issue with Ryzen performance with SMP enabled of which we're waiting on a windows patch to address and there are also memory issues that restrict how fast you're able to run DDR4 memory at. Hopefully some of these issues will be fixed with the windows updates and BIOS updates. It's early days, most new architecture releases are not without their faults!
I will say though I doubt that the current Ryzen chips will bring much to the table for Planet Coaster. They're more to compete with the HEDT chips from Intel (x99 platform) which are more geared toward creative/productivity scenarios. I myself own a six core i7 and the performance is worse in Planet Coaster than a friends 7700K. This makes sense because from my understanding of the issue, Planet Coasters performance is limited by the thread that handles rendering calls and the 7700k is the current top dog when it comes to IPC and clock speed (aka, great single threaded performance!)! Although the Ryzen has more cores and threads when compared to the 7700K, you have to remember that not all threads have an equal bearing on performance, as you throw more cores at the issue, you start to hit the wall of diminishing returns with performance gains.
Brett C
Frontier
One of our moderators over on the main Frontier forums actually dove into the AMD craze and got a 1700x or 1800x i think. Unfortunately, he's on backorder right now.
Another moderator actually let him be aware of this thread, so hopefully when he gets the time to, he'll be able to post some stats of PC's performance on the chip.
OT: I'm waiting for the 1080ti to come out. [money]
Another moderator actually let him be aware of this thread, so hopefully when he gets the time to, he'll be able to post some stats of PC's performance on the chip.
OT: I'm waiting for the 1080ti to come out. [money]
Wow that's Awesome Brett.. I'm glad you posted to tell us and see that you guys are interested in this as well.. Hopefully he's not backordered long.