if you could test the 3 parks I listed above that would be great!!
depending your GPU, highest settings but don't mind ultra/high or medium settings graphically... 1080 is probably the best resolution but 2k is fine for me personally, but not 4k
Anyone testing planet coaster with new ryzen cpu?
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if you could test the 3 parks I listed above that would be great!!
depending your GPU, highest settings but don't mind ultra/high or medium settings graphically... 1080 is probably the best resolution but 2k is fine for me personally, but not 4k
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Ryzen will arrive today, but i have to wait for deliveries from Aquacomputer and Watercool to get my system running. So i think i can get a detailed video online early next week. In Terms of settings:
I will log CPU (per core) and GPU Load, if the GPU dont seem to be a bottleneck here, i will do just 1080p maximum settings. But its just a R9 290 (nonX) so if the GPU comes out a a bottleneck here, i will do some 720p low settings Logs. This will give peaople with faster Graphics cards an idea what they can archieve with a GPU like the GTX 1070/1080 or more. This will exactly show what the CPU is able to archieve.
Ryzen will arrive today, but i have to wait for deliveries from Aquacomputer and Watercool to get my system running. So i think i can get a detailed video online early next week. In Terms of settings:
I will log CPU (per core) and GPU Load, if the GPU dont seem to be a bottleneck here, i will do just 1080p maximum settings. But its just a R9 290 (nonX) so if the GPU comes out a a bottleneck here, i will do some 720p low settings Logs. This will give peaople with faster Graphics cards an idea what they can archieve with a GPU like the GTX 1070/1080 or more. This will exactly show what the CPU is able to archieve.
Elbinea : 5,000 guests = 35fps All threads were averaging above 50% usage with the gpu sat around 65%
Pixel World 8000ish guests = 12fps All threads over 60% usage, gpu now at 35% usage. I think i might have hit an optimisation wall. A mix of Ryzen being a very new platform and Planet Coaster just being nearly impossible to run late game. Its obvious the gpu is waiting around for the cpu.
Benchmark 2 : 13,800 guests = 9fps Cpu wont go any further than 65% total usage (it is spread across all cores)
Overall i would say Ryzen is really good, its a frame behind my 4.7ghz 5960x and in planet coaster isnt far off my 4.2ghz 6950x. If you are still undecided as to whether you should buy one I would highly suggest you take the plunge, for £490 its an absolute steal. [big grin] Give the dev team some time and let the platform mature then we might one day see the 30fps 10,000 guest dream
All test were performed at 1080p Ultra preset on a Titan X Pascal
Pixel World 8000ish guests = 12fps All threads over 60% usage, gpu now at 35% usage. I think i might have hit an optimisation wall. A mix of Ryzen being a very new platform and Planet Coaster just being nearly impossible to run late game. Its obvious the gpu is waiting around for the cpu.
Benchmark 2 : 13,800 guests = 9fps Cpu wont go any further than 65% total usage (it is spread across all cores)
Overall i would say Ryzen is really good, its a frame behind my 4.7ghz 5960x and in planet coaster isnt far off my 4.2ghz 6950x. If you are still undecided as to whether you should buy one I would highly suggest you take the plunge, for £490 its an absolute steal. [big grin] Give the dev team some time and let the platform mature then we might one day see the 30fps 10,000 guest dream
All test were performed at 1080p Ultra preset on a Titan X Pascal
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I tested with my Ryzen 1700, 16 gigs of ram, gigabyte 1060 6 gig video card. windows 10 Home, this is the results with all setting to the ultra setting throughout.. Elbinea - GPU 56 to 60 and Frames 40 to 42 and Pixel World GPU 44 to 51 and Frames 30 to 35 and Benchmark 2 Park 13,800 GPU 35 to 50 and Frames 29 to 30 consistant. I really enjoy the Ryzen over my old Intel I5 I would never get frames like this. Ryzen wins this battle
Not trying to be rude here but seeing what Fancheezil posted running a 1800x and what you are saying with your 1700, I dont believe your results. No way are you going to get double or tripple the frame rates with a cpu running slower that the other with a graphics card that is a mid range card.
Fancheezil's results are far more realistic so either you have some magic CPU configuration or you are lying about something
Having a hard time believing them also. Need more people to run some ryzen tests to be sure.
You guys should give information to your RAM Speed. Ryzen is extremely RAM clock limited in some cases, maybe Planet Coaster is such a case, where higher RAM clocks give a good scaling. Its due to the 2x Quad Core CCX Design, the 2 CCX clusters are connectet by the "Infinite Fabric" that runs with the same speed as the System Memory. I will cover different settings, like SMT on/off, Windows Energy Profile settings, Ram Clock scaling and such things in my Video early next week. DHL confirmed delivery of the other Hardware Parts i need (cooling etc.) for today, so i can begin my build today and over the weekend, i will start an reinstallation marathon of my complete System. I will test Planet Coaster on my usual software Setup. This also includes many background tasks from software like the aquaero suite, logitech stuff and such things, to get a "real world environment."
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Licore's results look like what i would expect from those parks if they had no guests, Ram wise im running 2 8gb sticks at 3200mhz. This was to make sure ram speed wasnt an issue
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Almost the "Infinite Fabric" runs at a 2-1 ratio so a 20% increase in RAM speed is 10% increase in the CCX connection speed.
The AMD Ryzen sounds really good. 8 core 16 thread 20mb cache and turbo to 4Ghz stock speed. it easily beats intel equivalents which are A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE were talking $1,000+ but for the 1800x only like $400. Also it uses less power than its competing rival equivalents. Downsides you need a new motherboard. Think of it as double the performance of an i7 6700k. The i7 6700k is the fastest 6th gen intel processor though.
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A few things, if you are comparing to the enthusiast chips which is correct in it should be then you will likely need a new board on the Intel side also as most will be on the 1150/1151 board.
Only 1 core turbos to 4GHz whilst in stock for the 1800X not all 8 cores. So there is that.
It matches the performance of the $1000 chip not easily beats it. It looses out still in some cases and is above in others.
If you then compare to the 6700K & 7700K it again does indeed have double the performance in certain places. In general gaming (for 95%) it still looses out to both Intel chips. What it should do though is offer 90-95% the same performance in real world gaming situations.
It wont magically make it much better for gaming unless the game is really good at utilising all the cores/threads to complete certain tasks. Then it is noticeable. The reason that it works on BF1 so well is because online multiplayer requires a lot of CPU overhead to work well. One anomaly to this is F1 (the racing game) which works much better on Ryzen but I really can't see why.
Further to that though, it still requires a lot of work from developers to utilise what AMD are providing us with Ryzen. Let's hope the Cobra engine is adjusted to really utilise the cores available. At the moment it doesn't appear to be because even the Intel Enthusiast chips struggle and where Ryzen does do well those Intel chips still beat them in gaming performance.
It is not a magic answer to the problem you have with getting high FPS in Planet Coaster. It will likely run smoother and have more consistent frames though because all cores are not tapping out at 100% all the time. With that this game would look better running at 20fps constant than it would running at 60fps with big spikes in the low fps zone touching the same 20fps for a few seconds because that is what makes games feel choppy and loose fluidity. We notice naturally more that there is a large spike in FPS than we would a consistently smooth game.
Note: Yes games at a constant 60fps would be smoother where possible and that is not what the statement above means so before anyone jumps at that just have a think about what is being said or take it this way, if a game runs at a constant 60fps then that's great, for people who have 144Mhz monitors and so would like 144fps they will notice the same issue of dropping to 60fps at times as the above example.
Furthermore it is the reason we have now got G-Sync and Freesync to try and alleviate some of these issues.
actually the 1800X turbos to 4.2GHz due to XFR on a single core, and you can overclock it to run 3.9~4Ghz on all 8 cores
and from the benchmarks I've seen it's far from 100% usage and seems to be underutilized in gamesactually the 1800X turbos to 4.2GHz due to XFR on a single core, and you can overclock it to run 3.9~4Ghz on all 8 cores
only at 1080 res in gaming and games that are always benchmarked are crap like battlefield, rise of the tomb raider and that bloody metro game which is how frakking old now? ALL these games aren't multi-threaded friendly like Planet Coaster. You may even argue that PC is first TRUE multi-threaded game made to date right now so really this game is the Ultimate test when it comes to comparing enthusiast multi-core CPUs. When it comes to true multi-threaded applications, the RYZEN absolutely SPANKS intel in every catogry the only place its falling behind is in games, and its only slightly in almost every game that difference is about 8-10% and 100% of that is because Ryzen is brand new CPU and Architecture and there are a few bugs which will be ironed out. Of course when it comes to older games may not see much improvement because those were never optimized for AMD ever anyway even games ported from the consoles (which use AMD CPUs) were still optimized for intel for the PC versions. Not fan-boy-ism its just a fact almost every game made over the past decade has been Intel optimized. AMD has been out of the game for a VERY long time.
PC will stress every CPU on the market today, it would be great to see a wide range of benchmarks to see how the new Ryzen does actually perform or if there is some sort of bottleneck on the games engine as a few have suggested. FYI though you can easily get an 1800x to 4.2ghz you just need a good mobo (the x370s) and a good cooler. Only the x370s have the better overclocking capabilities on the voltages to push the CPU's higher clock.
actually the 1800X turbos to 4.2GHz due to XFR on a single core, and you can overclock it to run 3.9~4Ghz on all 8 cores
Yep but we was discussing out the box turbo which does not offer 4GHz to all cores like was stated.
You could also overclock it to 4.1-4.2GHz if you know what you are doing. No game so far has utilised all cores because no game knows how to take advantage of what it does. That doesn't change what it is currently capable of compared to the 7700K chip. Yes theoretically it could offer 2x performance to the 7700K or even more but that also does not translate to 2x the FPS because we are not talking about being CPU bound to where the GPU is also only being utilised to only 50% because of the CPU.
They do correlate to one another and so it completely blows the idea that Ryzen will suddenly make PC jump from 20fps average to 40fps average by the CPU change alone unless the GPU is being utilised at this time to do what the CPU should be doing. Again this does not appear to be the case as the enthusiast series of chips from Intel show zero advantage to their i series chips otherwise.
What? You are on a different planet, maybe Planco Land?
BF1 utilises all cores very very well and that is shown with multiplayer with the enthusiast chips from Intel beating everything else, Ryzen comes in 2nd and then the i5/i7 follow after that.
Further to that we see no real benefit for PC with the enthusiast chips from Intel we would already be seeing greater difference in FPS . Unfortunatly I have both rigs at moment from Intel and I gain zero FPS between the i7 7700K at stock and the i7 6950X that I use at work with the same GPU and RAM. So there is zero merit to what you are saying. What PC is good at doing is allowing all different workloads run on different cores/threads and thus load them all but that isn't showing any real world advantage at this time. I don't know why as I am not a programmer for the Cobra Engine but that is the real world case here.
And you can easily get the 1700 to 3.8GHz then it hits a cliff, you can get the 1800X to 4.0GHz and then hits a cliff. Both however can have a few hundred MHz squeezed out them with the right mobo, bios and RAM combo but some appear to be more stable than others even with the same setup due to the silicon lottery. So it is possible but certainly not easy.
So....tech squad. What's the score here? In your informed opinion......should I buy one of these things, yay or nay?
If you are moving on from an older Intel system like the i7 920, i7 2500K I would honestly say wait for the R5 1600 to drop as the Ryzen base will be excellent as a platform with AM4. With that the reason for the R5 is that most games now don't use more than 4 core but in the future they may be more optimised to do so.
The R5 1600 is looking to released around the £220 price mark which is a good £100 cheaper whilst still offering 6 core 12 threads. I would also say that you will often see the same level of FPS as with the latest i5 generally due to clock speeds and so for 90% that is excellent. It all depends what you are coming from and if you want to support AMD instead of Intel also.