Are Earth like planets super rare outside core systems?

SurrenderOrHAHA

SurrenderOrHAHA
Im currently on a long-ish exploration voyage... Found my first Earth like planet outside the core systems after 4000ly.
Yes, 4000 ly..
When you jump between systems in the "core region" you might think every other system has an Earth like planet but it seems they get pretty rare once you leave "the neighborhood"
Any other explorers with similar experiences or did I just manage to dodge all the right systems?
 

NeoTron

NeoTron
There's so many system, and it is rare - random luck basically. I've travelled to the core, then another 4k ly up and about (at least), likely travelling at least 32k ly combined. I've found two earth likes.

Relative to the number of systems available, I've barely touched the surface so - it's statistically insignificant.

I've found more water worlds orbiting neutron stars (3) than earth likes. :)
 
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777Driver

777Driver
SurrenderOrHAHA said:
Im currently on a long-ish exploration voyage... Found my first Earth like planet outside the core systems after 4000ly.
Yes, 4000 ly..
When you jump between systems in the "core region" you might think every other system has an Earth like planet but it seems they get pretty rare once you leave "the neighborhood"
Any other explorers with similar experiences or did I just manage to dodge all the right systems?
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The bulk of those planets you see in inhabited space are terraformed
 

barcode

B
Most of the Earth-like planets in the core regions have been terraformed. Terraforming candidates are pretty common out there, but planets that are naturally Earth-like are pretty rare.
 

Hellhawk666

Hellhawk666
Yes, fairly rare - less than 1%

In 6,000+ systems I've found a couple of dozen, but a lot of my time has been out on the far rim where they are almost non-existent. I feel there is a bit of a Goldilocks zone for earth-types around half way between the rim and the central core. Best system I found had two earth types as a binary pair :)
 
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GimpstersGhost

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I have visited about 1600 systems traveling no more then 2000 light years out from the core and found 4 earth like worlds. I have found at lease 100 terraforming candidates. Earth like worlds are indeed rare, but worlds, which can be made earth like are not uncommon.
 
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lotheren

lotheren
After I get back from this trip I should have easily explored around 3,000 systems. I have found, at best, 4 earth like worlds. Water worlds on the other hand appear quite often.
 

TruffleSnout

T
My first couple of excursions outside the inhabited sphere only went 600 - 1000 Ly. Saw 3 Earth likes. One of which now bears my name. And it's less than 100 Ly away from an inhabited system. Tons of terraformable candidates. Lost count of those. I'm now about 3500 Ly from Sol, and I finally saw my first Neutron star. Still haven't seen a black hole yet. Or a Water Giant. THOSE are rare.
 

Arindor

Arindor
After a near 30,000LY trip I have found 14, even two in orbit round each other. I've yet to cash them in, so I can't claim to have been the first ... yet.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
My guess is you are not picking your system, just letting your route planner take you to your next destination. This will just lead you through lots of M types, and those very rarely have earthlikes (not even sure i've seen an earthlike around an M).

If you want to see more, slow down, and pick and choose your systems. Yellow (G), hot (2), Medium sized (V) stars a good choice. Hmm... G2V, now where do i know that star type from? Oh right :D Ok, so yeah, i find i have most luck finding earthlikes with Sol like stars. Between F and K types, single star systems, hotter seems to increase the chance, and dwarves and giants seem to cut it less.

There are a number of other factors to keep in mind.

Single star systems are usually more consistent at delivering earthlikes (or else terraformable water worlds). These systems are more stable than multi-star systems, so more likely to see something which we could call home. However, multi-star systems can sometimes hold nice surprises, like one system i found with 2 paired earthlikes around the primary and another one around the secondary. Something like that is damn rare though. Also, often, multi-star systems, rather than offering up lots of planets, will instead have zero planets (too unsable to hold planets) and so are frequently duds.

The goldilocks zone. The hotter the sun, the further out the goldilocks zone, but also the star size comes into play, that can also push out the goldilocks zone. Too hot a sun though and you will find the inner planets (the rocky ones) are too hot for an earthlike. Too cool though and the inner planets are too cold to be considered. Sometimes though, rarely, you will find a rocky world in the gas giant regions, and if around a very hot star can be an earthlike, or at least a water world for terraforming.

I'm not saying dismiss the better paying stars, like O, B, A.... they can still have earthlikes. But if you are specifically wanting to increase your chance of seeing such, then follow the advice i've given.

Hope that helps.
 

SurrenderOrHAHA

SurrenderOrHAHA
Agony_Aunt said:
My guess is you are not picking your system, just letting your route planner take you to your next destination. This will just lead you through lots of M types, and those very rarely have earthlikes (not even sure i've seen an earthlike around an M).

If you want to see more, slow down, and pick and choose your systems. Yellow (G), hot (2), Medium sized (V) stars a good choice. Hmm... G2V, now where do i know that star type from? Oh right :D Ok, so yeah, i find i have most luck finding earthlikes with Sol like stars. Between F and K types, single star systems, hotter seems to increase the chance, and dwarves and giants seem to cut it less.

There are a number of other factors to keep in mind.

Single star systems are usually more consistent at delivering earthlikes (or else terraformable water worlds). These systems are more stable than multi-star systems, so more likely to see something which we could call home. However, multi-star systems can sometimes hold nice surprises, like one system i found with 2 paired earthlikes around the primary and another one around the secondary.
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Thanx Agony Aunt, yes you're right that I let the planner pick the route for the most part and unfortunately there is no filter like "avoid M-class Dwarfs". ;-)
I started picking out white and yellow stars recently as I got extremely bored by the M-class dwarf systems.. but I do wish FD would give the route planner a little more TLC. (Frankly, as it is now it sucks. Like.. why is the route gone if I quit the game and come back later)

Anyhoo.. when I finally did find it, it was in a complex system with 4 stars and weird orbits. But that might be the exception not the rule.

Anyhoo, Im getting the feeling these thing are in fact pretty rare. And manual route picking is probably the best way to increase my chances. Thanx all for your input.
 

Gramps

Gramps
I've been exploring for only 3 days now heading for the outer arm, found my first Earth like World just outside the bubble on my first day and another one the next day plus two Water worlds in the same system and that was within 500ly of sol. I'm still only 1400ly out because I'm the curious type who likes to stop an investigate, I've found 11 Water Worlds so far in only 3 days, no skill involved just luck. I have to say most of my valuable finds have been in visited systems 'First Discovered by Cmdr xxxx; shame on them. Check the system map after each jump and don't write off a system just because it's been visited because not all Explores are explorers. Good luck with it fella. :)
 

SurrenderOrHAHA

SurrenderOrHAHA
Milkdragon said:
Could we use NASA data base for all the possible earth like planets?
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Only the ED team could answer that. The topic has been discussed before. AFAIk, they did use real data for the galaxy initially, but that data is constantly changing as new discoveries are made by (for example) the Kepler telescope/ planet finmder, so the question is if ED are constantly updating the ED galaxy to match the latest data. I'd say it's doubtful. In some cases it could be weird to change existing systems where players visit regularly, otoh, remote systems without settlement could be "fixed" without too much trouble..
 

certhas

certhas
Best Way to find a lot Water Planets and Earth likes is to search them at (A,B)F,G,K Stars. The Habitable Zone at A and B Stars is pretty far away from the Star so normaly you mostly get pretty hot Planets (if they are Rock Planets and not Gas Giants). On the opposite M Stars are pretty cold Stars - most of the times to cold to maintain a decent habitable Zone. So best chance to find ELW's is to search them at F,G,K stars.
My recent best find so far:
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