Are FDev still optimizing Odyssey? Or is this it?
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FDEV is trying, however ED is by now a labyrinth of FPS killing codes, you see it everywhere, you go into a room an boom your FPS drops 40% I truly believe they want to fix it but can't due to how the whole ting is designed. The original design manual has been changed so many times it's by now boxes on top of boxes, I would really like to be a fly on the wall at some of these design meetings, because I'm sure my eyes would roll many time and my face expression would be REALLY?? are you REALLY suggesting that??? are you kidding me!!
Whilst waiting for Black Friday to bring me an affordable GFX card I play on a 1070 at 1440 in ultra and now I can have stutter-free concourses in the upper 50's (or v-sync 60) but every so often when I exit the lift and walk into the hangar I find crazy drop and stuttering. I don't get it often, usually it is 60 but the GPU is 100% on those occasions and I can't see any difference between a stuttering hangar and a normal one. So yes there are obviously "things" in the code from time-to-time / place-to-place.
This 60 FPS is ok no one needs 144 FPS
Need is relative and what fps one finds suitable is subjective.
What's more objective is that Odyssey runs far worse than Horizons, and worse than other titles with similarly complex scenes at similar levels of visual fidelity.
I disagree.
There is a big difference between playing a game at 60 and 144 fps. Unfortunately, Odyssey can’t really keep a completely stable 60 everywhere either. (On a machine that surpasses the recommended specs.)
Maybe if I never tried playing at 144 I would also be trying to convince others that no one needs it.
Heck, I’d be happy with a stable 90 at this point.
Yes and No, ED does have its own niche, but at the same time it leaves itself open with large amount of shortcomings.
I rather have 200 planets with stuff on it to do than 200b with nothing on it. Quality over Quantity. I have to admit, the recreation of the galaxy is amazing and absolutely phenomenal. But for the love of whatever, please fill it with SOMETHING!
I'm not saying every planet has to be lush with life. But after seeing the same mould 30 times over, in 10 different systems, the game really starts to fall flat.
The problem with Fdev giving what the players are asking are 2 different scenarios.
Here is an Analogy.
You go to the pub, and order a steak with chips/fries and a beer.
You get a chicken schnitzel with mashed and a cider.
You are not happy. then you get told: But you asked for meat and potatoes and a fermented drink?!
Same thing is happening here. players are asking for more meaningful gameplay, and we get more grind. Sadly, grind is not gameplay, even if Fdev thinks it is.
You are correct, there are daily 5k players. But I'm sure that number was quite higher before EDO.
You will always have the die hard fans, that will always play the game, no matter what and how bad it gets. Just not sure how long that will hold up.
That's the thing.. it's all just a narrative!
Glanet text is cheap and doesn't require much. Someone with semi-decent writing skills will get the job done. And THAT can be anyone.
I am following what's happening in ED, but I'm not holding my breath for anything amazing to happen. All my friends have moved on from ED, gave up on the grind.[/QUOTE]
GTX1080 OC here, 60 FPS and then you walk into a room in a building and it drops to 14, you open a door and it drops to 25, if you don't have the counter running all the time you don't always feel it, but when you see it, it just jump into your eyes every time. it can be combinations of weapons, some reloads trigger it too, so yeah patch work at its finest.
Can ya imagine that in VR man that would induce motion sickness all those jumps
It's not just the fluctuating frame rate that's annoying.
The unnecessary power consumption of the graphics card bothers me.
Loud fans and the heat will age the graphics card faster.
And that for 30-60 FPS?
The unnecessary power consumption of the graphics card bothers me.
Loud fans and the heat will age the graphics card faster.
And that for 30-60 FPS?
Oh ,I get this every so often too. Mind you, I am running everything maxed out at 4K... still, it seems odd to be so random, almost as if something wasn't being cleared down before somehting new was executing *
Other than that, there is the odd stutter at settlement during station approach every now and again but it all runs really smoothly.
* And I'm afraid that's about as technical as I get.
I've noticed something similar when testing my new i9-12900 coupled with an old 1660Ti. Sometimes the GPU usage will be higher in the exact same location. Restarting the game or changing instance (going somewhere else and coming back) will cure the problem GPU usage will be normal again (for that instance). This seems some kind of bug and doesn't happen all the time, only occasionally. I noticed it as when the GPU hits 100% my frame rate drops.
Wonder if it's the olde "occlusion" chestnut.
I have to jump in here as that analogy truly doesn't fit what's happening with Elite. One customer ordering a thing and getting another thing is not the same as the entire customer base asking for disparate things each to be added to the menu, and when one or two things are added, those who wanted something else start trying to wreck the restaurant in response and leaving bad reviews on yelp.
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Just to clarify from my side:
I wouldn‘t mind if I ordered a pork chop and was given a chicken breast - as long as the chicken breast is tasty and good.
I do mind when I am given spoiled meat that gives me stomach problems
(I am referring to bugs and technical issues.)
At this point I wouldn’t mind any kind of content as long as it’s not just grind(R) in disguise.
Just cap it at 60fps, you really don't need any more than that, 60fps constant is far better than frame rates going up and down.
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45fps is not good with your rig however just a thought... are you using vsync (sorry if I missed this). I don't know how AMd handle vsync.
NV have an option to vsync but if frames drop below your set refresh rate (for me that is 60) it effectively turns it off so you can get any FPS up to 60.
however traditional vsync if it can't hit the refresh rate (for you that is 90) it halves frames to 45.... maybe it is coincidence but you mentioned 45fps.
have you tried turning off vsync or failing that looking for adaptive vsync equivalent or lower to 60 which perhaps you can hit
just a thought
Well, it still dips to 45 at high CZs so it‘s not a proper solution.
And I got used to 120 fps and more in other games so 60 doesn’t feel right anymore.
But thanks for the suggestion.
Hmmm, this sounds intriguing.
I do have VSYNC ON in ED. I will give it a go tomorrow and disable it to see how the game behaves then.
On a side note: 60 fps is not really an option for me anymore. I got used to 120 fps and more in other games and sadly 60 is too “rough” for me now.
I really wish Odyssey was optimized better so I could enjoy it without drops.
They've been continuing to upgrade the game since its inception, and I dont see any reason they'd stop, aside from making a new game of Elite and shifting resources/focus to that.
And as to whether they can get it to decent performance levels, I always think back to those trailers they were showing before they released the beta. The game is working, planets look fine, etc, in those trailers, so Im sure they can always "revert" it back to that state.
Can you imagine EDO, or ED at all, in a "working properly" state? Never been done before! Mind blowing!
And about the current state of the game, the incremental improvements in FPS seem smooth to me...but thats coming from being used to playing games at mid-20 fps in other games. One thing I wish they'd fix is LOD...I'd prefer low fps, but details not popping in, than higher fps and bam, your cardboard box turns into your detailed ASP, you know? I know thats not the same for everyone, so I wish they'd have a slider, or number to change that fixes that. If you do edit the file to change LOD, in EDO, it still has a bad LOD thing, where even if you're a few hundred meters from the slot of a space station, it "pops" in tonnes of detail and lights. It wasn't always like this.
And as to whether they can get it to decent performance levels, I always think back to those trailers they were showing before they released the beta. The game is working, planets look fine, etc, in those trailers, so Im sure they can always "revert" it back to that state.
Can you imagine EDO, or ED at all, in a "working properly" state? Never been done before! Mind blowing!
And about the current state of the game, the incremental improvements in FPS seem smooth to me...but thats coming from being used to playing games at mid-20 fps in other games. One thing I wish they'd fix is LOD...I'd prefer low fps, but details not popping in, than higher fps and bam, your cardboard box turns into your detailed ASP, you know? I know thats not the same for everyone, so I wish they'd have a slider, or number to change that fixes that. If you do edit the file to change LOD, in EDO, it still has a bad LOD thing, where even if you're a few hundred meters from the slot of a space station, it "pops" in tonnes of detail and lights. It wasn't always like this.