You do realize, that even if you don't pre-order, you still buy the game before you play it.. right? So that was a jab at the inaccurate OP post, not to glorify pre-order culture.
Are you surprised it so bad ??
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You mean pushing it to double digit numbers... Like 11 or if you are very lucky... 12 FPS!
Hold onto your boots, cos we're rocking!
No, I'm tears-free ta
I just think it might be prudent for some kind of contact to be made on here to say "Yes, we know, we're sorting it" or "Nah, it's how it is". Chill people out a bit
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I am surprised. Which feels sad 
Note to CMs: release the Panther Clipper and distract us with chonk.....we know its in the files.....
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This is probably a bad line of reasoning as such it completely condems all the LEPers and Kickstart backers as the main problem. But without them there wouldn't be a game at all
If fdev release a bad product, blame fdev
I like what Odyssey is attempting to do, but the bugs are horrendous.
Brilliant idea, terrible execution (at launch).
I was expecting issues, yes. But I am disappointed I have to say. Let's see - codex entries not saving, missions not being able to be completed, graphics performance a bit meh, mission options seemingly either want me to commit crimes, kill people or go to Colonia for nix, NPC glitches (limbs merging into floors etc, lip sync either non-existent or just plain bad, still not walking properly.....), SRV throttle still seems to me not to have truly reverted to Horizons version, galaxy map UI just seems to make things harder not easier......nothing really game breaking (except maybe the codex entries issue making exploration pointless for now), but stuff that makes me feel.....'really? This is the trunk that was supposedly separate to the alpha?'
Even tried a random facility on a planet - requested docking permission, was GRANTED docking permission, as I approach to land I get the restricted area warning and trespass fine, just as I touch down, the installation starts firing on me. Managed to avoid a rebuy but really? How am I trespassing if they gave me docking permission......???
Even tried a random facility on a planet - requested docking permission, was GRANTED docking permission, as I approach to land I get the restricted area warning and trespass fine, just as I touch down, the installation starts firing on me. Managed to avoid a rebuy but really? How am I trespassing if they gave me docking permission......???
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He means "just before". You mean "way in advance of release".
Blame everyone but the actual devs who did the work and the company that said, "yeah, this is acceptable to release to the public" is that really where we're at?
It makes no sense to blame players. None of us had anything to do with FDev releasing a crappy DLC. Everyone trashed the alpha, told FDev to fix it, then trashed the release lol. I'm 100% convinced that the devs had no intention of fixing all the bugs by release, pre-orders or no.
Knights gotta white, bro
Players should take some responsibility for allowing game studios to get away with this for years. All these companies care about is your money, and if you gladly give them it up front, often months and months in advance, what incentive is there for them to give you something worthy of the hype they sold you in return? They already have your money!
Some people who are complaining about Odyssey today will once again go and pre-order the next update, then wonder why they're being sold another substandard product all over again.
I've been using this on these forums for too long. You can have it now. You need it as much as I did now....
Exactly!
I can agree on this. I just feel like we should put more blame on those collecting the $$. Those who paid and might already have been refunded aren't going to fix the problems that already exist and they aren't going to be paying the refunds to others.
No one blamed taxpayers who funded the bomb for hiroshima....
No one blamed taxpayers who funded the bomb for hiroshima....
I think its good. Yes, there are bugs, but I expect that.
The game will improve, it just needs time.
Sometimes I think we need to step back and actually appreciate just how wonderful the scope of the game is. This stuff is complicated and yet we get to travel anywhere in a 1 to 1 scale Galaxy. Amazing.
The game will improve, it just needs time.
Sometimes I think we need to step back and actually appreciate just how wonderful the scope of the game is. This stuff is complicated and yet we get to travel anywhere in a 1 to 1 scale Galaxy. Amazing.