Asian Animal Additions

Looking back at my 25 animals on the meta wishlist, and 12 of them (nearly half) have ranges partly or entirely within Asia. None of my chosen animals have been added yet either, so a lot of my most-wanted species are still from Asia. Five of my top preferences are:

Yellow-throated marten: I have already waxed lyrical about these animals, but I'll do so again. Brightly coloured, active, adaptable and sociable animals that are my absolute most-wanted species in the game.
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Bar headed goose: One of my most-wanted birds, which is among the most commonly-kept exotic animals in European zoos. They can live in walkthrough enclosures, mixed-species exhibits or simply be a waterbird that goes onto an ornamental lake. They also have the advantage of being lovely to look at.
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Giant Asian pond turtle: One of the largest freshwater turtles, kept in zoos throughout Europe, North America and Asia (I believe that there are also plans for a zoo in New Zealand to get them as well). They can live in large outdoor enclosures, are peaceable vegetarians that can live with both their own species and in mixed enclosures and would be an ideal representative for the critically endangered Asian freshwater turtles.
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Owston's civet: A bit of an oddball species, found in a small number of British zoos. They can be kept in both outdoor enclosures and nocturnal houses, and there have been studies that indicate that the very survival of this species depends upon breeding within zoos.
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Another Asian deer: My original 20 included the Vietnamese sika deer, which is extinct in the wild. But with the arrival of the fallow deer, this species has been overshadowed by the Bukharan deer, which has a unique habitat (desert-temperate), is absolutely spectacular and would work well in Asian plains mixed enclosures.
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As you can see, most of my choices are rather small species - in fact, that is true of most of my meta wishlist. It doesn't really matter which continent they are from, so long as the animals are small and versatile, with some more unusual species also being my preference.
 
It's worth noting that after the Wetlands pack came out, one of the forum members tallied it up that Asia was the most represented continent in the game -I apologize that I don't remember who it was but it was very insightful. Now with the Conservation pack, which features three more Asian animals, all of which were heavily requested (or type of animal requested in the case of the Siamang), I'm feeling like there's even less need. Not negated completely of course, but I'm just feeling like if Asia is revisited it need to be done very lightly.

Looking over my own wishlist of 50 habitat animals, there's only 3 of them on it from Asia. The highest one, the Lar Gibbon, is not even top 20. The only other two that make that list are the Markhor and the Saiga Antelope. This does not include birds or exhibit animals - definitely plenty of birds to visit and a Cobra for sure for an exhibit. So I'm wondering what the general feeling is? Feel free to share your top handful or so if you'd like. I know the Raccoon Dog and Pallas Cat get mentioned a bit, as do other species of Leopards.


Edit: I did want to add, I definitely want the Wolverine and know that it does extend to Asia, so I guess that's a big one. It's actually my #2 wanted animal now. But I tend to group it more to Europe and North American than Asia.
I think the thing I would say is that firstly Asia is the largest continent, and arguably also the most biome diverse one too, not to mention it has a number of major natural barriers which have created separate areas for evolution.

Looking at what we have currently:

Species that live in Asia, repped by non-Asian Subspecies
(West African) Lion
(Timber) Wolf
(Grizzly) Brown Bear
(Arctic) Wolf

Species that Live in Asia and Elsewhere
Saltwater Croc
Greater Flamingo
Polar Bear
Reindeer
Grey Seal
Moose
Arctic Fox
Eurasian Lynx
European Badger
Cheetah

Actual Asian Rep
Komodo Dragon
Indian Peafowl
Bengal Tiger
Indian Rhino
Indian Elephant
Gharial
Himalayan Brown Bear
Red Panda
Formosan Black Bear
Chinese Pangolin
Siberian Tiger
Giant Panda
Japanese Macaque
Southern Cassowary
Sun Bear
Clouded Leopard
Babrusa
Binturong
Wild Water Buffalo
Asian Small-clawed Otter
Red-crowned Crane
Amur Leopard
Pzewalski's Horse
Dhole
Siamang
Malayan Tapir
Proboscis Monkey
Snow Leopard

Which in fairness, is a very solid list, but given the size of the continent, and range of habitats I do think that there are a couple of notable omissions enough to justify at least one Asia pack to fill in those gaps!

Personally, I'd go for some combination of the following

Chinese or Japanese Giant Salamander
Dugong
Gaur
Golden
or Lady Amherst's Pheasants
Golden Snub-nosed Monkey
Indian Crested Porcupine
Markhor
Munjac
sp.
Pallas' Cat
Saiga
Sambar
Sloth Bear
Tanuki
Wild Boar
Wild Yak


I don't think Asia is the most under-repped continent by any means (looks at South America...), but it also does feel highly so proprtionally
 
The thing with asia is, that it has multiple distinct sub regions with different amounts of representation.

For Great Representation we have northern boreal Asia and South East Asia.
These regions have pretty much every major niche coverd and you can build a thematic area around them.

In north asia the only holes can be easily filled by the red fox, wolverine and wild boar, with only one unique asian animal feeling like its missing here, being the tanuki.
Theres also an aboreal animal missing, which could be greatly fixed by any kind of marten.

South East Asia is simply really well ballanced, having a bit of everything and representing its area really well.
The only "holes" would be another bird, maybe some more ungulates like a deer and the anoa and some more specific animals like the sulawesi crested Macaque, fishing cat, luzon giant cloud rat or the owstons civet, all 3 not being no where close to needed, but simply nice to have do to their uniqueness compared to the current roster.
While there are still animals to be added (and there allways will be) all major niches are represented, making for a satusfying package.


Next category just has one contender, india, and that is a good roster but with more important holes that still need to be fixed.
In this case, these are birds, reptiles, monkeys and ungulates.
The waterbuffallo was a good step into the right direction, but when your only ungulate is a rhino you know you got Problems for smaller scale habitats.
Animals like the black buck and nielgai feel like a necessity and should be added.
The next big hole are monkeys, with atleast the lion tailed Macaque, a langur and either the rhesus Macaque or pig tailed Macaque.
Its a crime that we have no monkeys from the asian mainland and i hope that will be fixed soon.
While we do have the peafowl, gharial and flamingo, we dont have anything else.
Atleast a turtle and a species of waterfowl like the bar headed goose are severly needed.


Then we got the regions with minimal representation, those being central and east asia.
For the himalaya, we got 2 apex predators, the red panda and another bear.
Pls give us some ungulates and the himalayan monal as a bird and this region would be fine.
Ideally we would get the himalayan monal, pallas cat, himalayan thar, domestic yak and a takin, but even just one if the ungulates would do a lot of work here.

For the plains of central asia the saiga would be nice, but the animals we allready have mostly cover them, eventhough something like the surprisingly common in captivity and unique looking corsac fox or the saiga would be a welcome addition.

For east asia, the most important missing animals by far are pheasents.
Frontier pls just give us 3-7 of them, thank you.
Besides them, the unique deer like the muntjac or peeres david deer would be perfect.

All 3 of these regions are recognisably smaller then the others, both in representation and wishes, but thats due to a mix of their animal diversity and represantation in zoos simply being lower.

The last part is what representation as the stretch between india and north africa basicly has no representation.
Here animals like the markhor, dromedary, hamadryas baboon, striped hyena and caracal would be great.


So yeah, while no continent has more animals then asia, it really doesnt mean that all of it is well represented
 
In north asia the only holes can be easily filled by the red fox, wolverine and wild boar, with only one unique asian animal feeling like its missing here, being the tanuki.
Theres also an aboreal animal missing, which could be greatly fixed by any kind of marten.

Thinking on this, I think perhaps a neater way of covering these species is do something like a "Boreal Pack" with a bunch of conspicuously absent cold-clime species that would fit for Europe, North America and North Asia, then you are freed up in a lot of other packs to have some more ambitious choices in a bunch of the other packs?

Musk Ox
Wolverine
Wild Boar
Red Fox
Walrus
Elk / Wapiti
 
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Yeah India, mainland Asia and the Middle East are the ones that need more representation.

Thinking on this, I think perhaps a neater way of covering these species is do something like a "Boreal Pack" with a bunch of conspicuously absent cold-clime species that would fit for Europe, North America and North Asia, then you are freed up in a lot of other packs to have some more ambitious choices in a bunch of the other packs?

Musk Ox
Wolverine
Wild Boar
Red Fox
Walrus
Elk / Wapiti
I would probably still buy it but tbh is not a roster i would be super excited for, even thought all of those animals are very common and popular, but i think there are other priorities over the boar, the fox and the elk. The musk ox is one that i really really want, i feel meh about getting the wolverine or not (would be cool, another animal from ZT which is nice as well) and i don't really care about the walrus like most people, i can live without an official walrus but i agree they are cool animals.
 
Comparing Asia one on one to other continents doesn't do it justice due to its size and diversity (both cultural and natural). It would be more right to divide the World into a number of regions which include some 'continents' (North America, Latin America (could be split in Central and South), Europe, Australia (and perhaps Oceania)) and parts of Africa (North, Central, South and perhaps even East/West) and Asia (East, Southeast, South, West/Middle East and Central). North Asia can be grouped with Europe as it's pretty similar in wildlife.

With that division, Southeast Asia has moved from being the most underrepresented to most well-represented after getting its own animal pack and 3 new species in the last 2 DLCs. Still I'd love more animals from that region (Philippine tarsier, lesser chevrotain, giant softshell turtle for instance) as it's my personal favourite, but I don't think the game would lack anything if it wouldn't touch on Southeast Asia again, except for the fact that it still has no theme to go with it.

Similarly, Central, East and South Asia are quite well represented animal-wise and even more so theme-wise. However, there are some ungulate species from this region that should/may still be added, including the markhor, takin, yak, nilgai, muntjac and blackbuck. Also some carnivorans such as the tanuki and sloth bear are still wanted by a lot and I think they would make good additions to the game.

What we do need in general from the regions above are primates, birds and perhaps reptiles/amphibians. We have several apes and two monkeys that are quite unique, but we miss a more general monkey species. Species such as the Javan lutung, crab-eating macaque, lion-tailed macaque, golden snub-nosed monkey or douc would be a great addition. Similarly, we could use some more birds like the golden pheasant, tragopan, Victoria's crowned pigeon (by most definitions Oceania) and junglefowl. I would also love a Malaysian water monitor or softshell turtle, but I'm probably in the minority here.

Then I come to the most underrepresented region in the entire game: the Middle East or West Asia. We have gotten some animals that live close to it (scimitar oryx, fennec, Bactrian camel, European fallow deer), but have yet to receive an actual species from the Arabian peninsula. I don't think we need a lot from this region, but missing animals from here could easily fill a scenery pack. This could include the caracal, Indian crested porcupine, hamadryas baboon and an ungulate species from the region, with a snake or chameleon as the exhibit species.

*EDIT Note of clarification to prevent unnecessary discussions: I'm only talking about purely Asian species here, so those that share their habitat with other continents are ignored. This also means that - for ease - I use a definition of West Asia that does not include Egypt and Turkey, even though they are part of the Middle East according common definitions.
 
Comparing Asia one on one to other continents doesn't do it justice due to its size and diversity (both cultural and natural). It would be more right to divide the World into a number of regions which include some 'continents' (North America, Latin America (could be split in Central and South), Europe, Australia (and perhaps Oceania)) and parts of Africa (North, Central, South and perhaps even East/West) and Asia (East, Southeast, South, West/Middle East and Central). North Asia can be grouped with Europe as it's pretty similar in wildlife.

With that division, Southeast Asia has moved from being the most underrepresented to most well-represented after getting its own animal pack and 3 new species in the last 2 DLCs. Still I'd love more animals from that region (Philippine tarsier, lesser chevrotain, giant softshell turtle for instance) as it's my personal favourite, but I don't think the game would lack anything if it wouldn't touch on Southeast Asia again, except for the fact that it still has no theme to go with it.

Similarly, Central, East and South Asia are quite well represented animal-wise and even more so theme-wise. However, there are some ungulate species from this region that should/may still be added, including the markhor, takin, yak, nilgai, muntjac and blackbuck. Also some carnivorans such as the tanuki and sloth bear are still wanted by a lot and I think they would make good additions to the game.

What we do need in general from the regions above are primates, birds and perhaps reptiles/amphibians. We have several apes and two monkeys that are quite unique, but we miss a more general monkey species. Species such as the Javan lutung, crab-eating macaque, lion-tailed macaque, golden snub-nosed monkey or douc would be a great addition. Similarly, we could use some more birds like the golden pheasant, tragopan, Victoria's crowned pigeon (by most definitions Oceania) and junglefowl. I would also love a Malaysian water monitor or softshell turtle, but I'm probably in the minority here.

Then I come to the most underrepresented region in the entire game: the Middle East or West Asia. We have gotten some animals that live close to it (scimitar oryx, fennec, Bactrian camel, European fallow deer), but have yet to receive an actual species from the Arabian peninsula. I don't think we need a lot from this region, but missing animals from here could easily fill a scenery pack. This could include the caracal, Indian crested porcupine, hamadryas baboon and an ungulate species from the region, with a snake or chameleon as the exhibit species.

*EDIT Note of clarification to prevent unnecessary discussions: I'm only talking about purely Asian species here, so those that share their habitat with other continents are ignored. This also means that - for ease - I use a definition of West Asia that does not include Egypt and Turkey, even though they are part of the Middle East according common definitions.
Amazing analysis
 
Asian animals I would like:

  • Saiga antelope
  • Takin
  • Musk deer
  • Japanese serow
  • Tanuki (raccoon dog)
  • Pallas cat
  • Asian golden cat
  • Blackbuck
  • Langur
  • Nilgai

While I would absolutely like these animals, I don't think they are essential for the game. They would be very good fleshing out. For instance, the saiga (endangered and unique looking) could be a shared habitat species with the przewalski. The Takin would be our first Himalayan prey animal, and a huge goat species. The Musk deer represents an entirely different type of deer. Etc.
 
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At this point I doubt I'd be terribly bothered if we didn't get any more Asian species, even though there's quite a few that I'd really like to see (including my #1). But I'm also kinda at the point where I'd rather see mediocre choices (from a personal preference standpoint) from Oceania or South America over most great choices from non-Middle East Asia. I wouldn't say it has anything to do with "balance" or anything, just that those regions still feel impossible to truly build for.

That said, here's the top of what I'd still like to see from Asia:
  • Tanuki
  • Fishing cat
  • Pallas cat
  • Pere David's deer
  • Prevost's squirrel
  • Sloth bear
  • Blackbuck
  • Lion-tailed macaque
  • Golden or Lady Amherst's pheasant
  • Gray (or whatever) langur
Markhor I'm iffy about, and mainly want to see it for ZT1 nostalgia. Most other ungulates people are suggesting (takin, goral, anoa, serow, muntjac, etc.) I'm fine with but certainly not clamoring for. In general more primates and birds would be welcomed, but I think that's about it for me honestly.
 
It's worth noting that after the Wetlands pack came out, one of the forum members tallied it up that Asia was the most represented continent in the game -I apologize that I don't remember who it was but it was very insightful. Now with the Conservation pack, which features three more Asian animals, all of which were heavily requested (or type of animal requested in the case of the Siamang), I'm feeling like there's even less need. Not negated completely of course, but I'm just feeling like if Asia is revisited it need to be done very lightly.

Looking over my own wishlist of 50 habitat animals, there's only 3 of them on it from Asia. The highest one, the Lar Gibbon, is not even top 20. The only other two that make that list are the Markhor and the Saiga Antelope. This does not include birds or exhibit animals - definitely plenty of birds to visit and a Cobra for sure for an exhibit. So I'm wondering what the general feeling is? Feel free to share your top handful or so if you'd like. I know the Raccoon Dog and Pallas Cat get mentioned a bit, as do other species of Leopards.


Edit: I did want to add, I definitely want the Wolverine and know that it does extend to Asia, so I guess that's a big one. It's actually my #2 wanted animal now. But I tend to group it more to Europe and North American than Asia.
The only Asian animal I really want at this point is takin; I don't care which species. Sloth bears would be cool too. Maybe Frontier could replace the Himalayan brown bear with them. :ROFLMAO:
 
  • Banteng (EN)
  • Saiga Antelope (CR)
  • Tibetan Antelope (NT)
  • Pere David's Deer (EW)
  • Markhor (NT)
  • Blackbuck (LC)
  • Yellow-throated Marten (LC)
  • Himalayan Wolf (CR)
  • Blue-spotted Tree Monitor (EN)
  • Chinese Giant Salamander (CR)
  • Silvery Gibbon (EN)
  • Wild Yak (VU)
  • Yangtze Giant Softshell Turtle (CR)
  • Xenopeltis unicolor (LC) [Its most unique feature is that its skin is scaly: when it receives sunlight, the scales show the color of the rainbow, while the underside is White]
  • Great Hornbill (VU)
  • Lion-tailed Macaque (EN)
  • Sumatran Rhinoceros (CR)
  • King cobra (VU)
  • Pheasant sp [Lady Amherst (LC); Silver (LC); Golden (LC); Reeves (VU)]
  • Grizzled Giant Squirrel (NT)
 
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