Asp or Vulture??

If you've been playing a while in a Vulture in a RES, you might find that you're being scanned by wanted NPCs in FdLs, and instead of the usual "I see it all", you will receive something along the lines of "Sorry, thought you were someone else".
I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I noticed that after I got my Vulture I was only getting interdicted by absolute idiots - like, Novice level pirates and below. I assumed it was some sort of pirate hazing ritual - "Ar, now see young space-dog, Vultures, that's what ye want for booty, arrr!" being the pirate equivalent of "Go and get a tin of tartan paint" or something.
 
but you do have a fetish for taking ships that shouldn't really be exploring out in the depths of unexplored space
Well, yeah. Think of someone telling you they crossed the Atlantic in a boat. Then his mate telling you he crossed the Atlantic in a bathtub without a plug in it. Who would you rather sit and have a pint with?

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I forgot what my point was
 
My two cents.

The Asp Scout is a scam. Get an Explorer instead.

Combat-wise, the Vulture eats Asps for breakfast. The pit bull is so good at combat it can easily wreck any kind of Elite PvE ship. Yup, even Elite Condas. With ease.

In terms of multi-purpose crafts, the Asp is one of the best ships you can find. It can be argued to be even better than Pythons depending on what you like to do. It has limited maneuverability and is a bit of a fat pancake but has insane jump range, more than decent cargo storage, and can be outfitted to hold its own in combat. It's also one the best explorers, period.

So all in all, depends on what you like to do. Asps are good at many things but Vultures are a fighter's pilot dream come true.

Edit : Asps also make good miners. They really are good at many things.

The Asp Scout has much better maneuverability, so it's not a bad alternative.

The vulture is a superior ship for combat in every way. The Asp is a big wide target and born to die by plasma fire. Hahaha.
 
The Asp Scout has much better maneuverability, so it's not a bad alternative.
Obviously but it sacrifices so much for that. Crappy shields. Fewer internals. Half the utility mounts. Fewer (small) hardpoints. Less power available (even if not that much of an issue depending on your setup). And it's still a pancake from an combat PoV.

I just can't fathom what FD were thinkin' when they designed the Asp Scout. It's a worse ship in pretty much every way for not even half the price.

I just can't recommend this ship. Not at this price point anyway. Not when you can get an AspX for only 2 mil more.

It's like barely an improvement over a Cobra.

And even from an Explorer point of view. The DBX is better and cheaper.

Edit : Hotfix, the DBX is not cheaper with a 5A FSD. But it has much better jump range. And using a 5B FSD it has similar jump range and *is* cheaper.
 
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Obviously but it sacrifices so much for that. Crappy shields. Fewer internals. Half the utility mounts. Fewer (small) hardpoints. Less power available (even if not that much of an issue depending on your setup). And it's still a pancake from an combat PoV.

I just can't fathom what FD were thinkin' when they designed the Asp Scout. It's a worse ship in pretty much every way for not even half the price.

I just can't recommend this ship. Not at this price point anyway. Not when you can get an AspX for only 2 mil more.

It's like barely an improvement over a Cobra.

And even from an Explorer point of view. The DBX is better and cheaper.

They were thinking STEALTH asp. Haha.
 
Well, yeah. Think of someone telling you they crossed the Atlantic in a boat. Then his mate telling you he crossed the Atlantic in a bathtub without a plug in it. Who would you rather sit and have a pint with?

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I forgot what my point was
that we are going down the pub
 
...Combat-wise, the Vulture eats Asps for breakfast. The pit bull is so good at combat it can easily wreck any kind of Elite PvE ship. Yup, even Elite Condas. With ease....

This may currently be true for xbox, however, with the upgrade to 1.6 (or Horizons 2.1) looming, that is set to change. The reports from the current 2.1 beta (PC) are filled with reports that the AI is much improved. The higher combat-ranked NPCs are no longer the cannon fodder they once were. Get ready.
 
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This may currently be true for xbox, however, with the upgrade to 1.6 (or Horizons 2.1) looming, that is set to change. The reports from the current 2.1 beta (PC) are filled with reports that the AI is much improved. The higher combat-ranked NPCs are no longer the cannon fodder they once were. Get ready.

Thats me goosed then. That's my primary income whilst I learn the basics.
 
Just to answer the hardpoint question in the OP specifically - while the 6 hp's offered by the asp do look amazing at first glance, its capacitor isn't that great meaning it can really struggle to support 6 weapons firing simultaneously, depending of course on which ones you go for. In that sense the vulture actually has more firepower, only 2hp's but they're large size which is a big difference & have the capacitor to back them up.

Also just to add, while most common vulture builds tend to be very one-trick pony (pair of pulse lasers), personally I found a pulse on one side and plasma accelerator on the other to be pretty fun.

btw aim to get both ships, both awesome but for different tasks ;)
 
I own both a Vulture and the AspX (not scout)

I would echo others by saying that the Vulture is a far superior combat ship to the Asp.
You can seriously tank both the sheilds and hull and it is a heap of fun to fly! :)

Doesn't do much else well though! ;)
 
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