Not sure how militant atheism could be implmented into ED. Would it be like Jehovas Witnesses or say those donation can shakers you meet in the high street, but in this case I guess the harrassment would happen at the mailbox as players enter/leave port.
General / Off-Topic Atheist Goverments - The sword of reason
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No Sir, it's not "only" that at all.That's only if you consider a God to be unicorns, fairies and happy faces.Good thing Atheism is all about faith.
Matthew 10:34 - 10:39
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Agnostic claims that knowledge in the existence of a god(s) is unknown
Atheists claim not to believe in god(s)
I am an agnostic atheist. There is no scientific evidence for god(s). Some people have personal evidence for god(s), I don't. I can't judge people's personal evidence, I can only judge my own. Since I lack that evidence, I have no other option than not to believe in god(s)
"I believe in god" requires only personal evidence. No one has to scientifically prove to anyone else why he or she believes in god. This is the theism/atheism angle.
"God exists"/"God does not exist", requires scientific evidence. Since it should be a verifiable claim. This is the gnostic approach.
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To save me from hell?
Very convenient for the priests.
Magic rings make sense in a Tolkien context too.
What about them? Same same but different.
Many things can be imagined. That does not make them true.
I can think of no god that is perfect. Yahweh was a homicidal maniac with the emotional maturity of a 4 year-old.
Don't you mean the big 3?
Yes they are. Same same but different.
@mysturji... Re matt 10:34-39. Im pretty sure that if you know the verses then you know the context. Which is that belief in christ will inevitably lead to conflict eg between believer and non-believer, and even between members of the same family and the same household. Not a kind of namby pamby belief but one that is hard and has inevitable consequences. A bit like the current discussion in fact If you choose to make a different interpretaion, you are most welcome!
If you choose to make a different interpretaion, you are most welcome!@mysturji... Re matt 10:34-39. Im pretty sure that if you know the verses then you know the context. Which is that belief in christ will inevitably lead to conflict eg between believer and non-believer, and even between members of the same family and the same household. Not a kind of namby pamby belief but one that is hard and has inevitable consequences. A bit like the current discussion in fact
I see no contradiction. He states explicitly that this is what he has come to do. It was intentional.
Also, the bits about "he is not worthy of me" carry an implicit threat of eternal damnation.
Yes but isnt that the point? Follow me and have eternal life... Reject me and suffer eternal damnation. Which i interpret as being apart from god. But if you reject him in life, then you would naturally reject him in death. So quite logical really methinks
Quite a hard bit of scripture for believer and non- believer alike to get their heads around but i certainly dont buy your original interpretation. Even though mine may be flawed and incomplete!
@ziggy... Cant give you any more rep it seems, but well argued. If i might throw a bit of science into the mix, take a look at 'textual criticism' as a means of establishing that the bible survives today pretty much as written down. I would be interested in what you think...
@cardiacthorne... The christian message is that god did indeed reveal himself. John 3:16 for god so loved the world etc etc
Quite a hard bit of scripture for believer and non- believer alike to get their heads around but i certainly dont buy your original interpretation. Even though mine may be flawed and incomplete!
@ziggy... Cant give you any more rep it seems, but well argued. If i might throw a bit of science into the mix, take a look at 'textual criticism' as a means of establishing that the bible survives today pretty much as written down. I would be interested in what you think...
@cardiacthorne... The christian message is that god did indeed reveal himself. John 3:16 for god so loved the world etc etc
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If you regard having a meaning and a purpose to life as 'hell' then bring it on baby
I provide my own meaning and purpose in my life.
You're taking this game Waaaaaay to seriously!
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What is a militant Atheist?...someone that wants to force their beliefs on others, by any chance?
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