Atmospherics and Instancing

There is nothing FDev can do about that. That is a player/forum user issue. Can't blame FDev for that.

Yeah there is, they could say "that's not gonna happen". Which, to be fair, they did do during the Kickstarter phase.

Yep, I think we can all mostly agree with that.
Cool

Then you're special.


Yes.

Yes, but as stated they were very close to release. The leak was also wrong about ED not getting any updates until the "new era". New updates are coming every 3-4 months according to FDev, they will be smaller, but they are still coming, supposedly.
Mmmm, yeah, but if you insert [real] before updates, then it still sorta fits.

What junk? The only things I would call bad is Powerplay and Multicrew. The rest is either okay or excellent in my view. Sorry but no.
I use the term "junk" here to refer in the colloquial sense to Frontier's private parts, not how subjectively good or bad (or big or small?) those private parts are.

I never said it would happen. I said it is a possibility. It is also possible that the leak is wrong in regards to ED. We already know it's got something wrong in regards to ED, how do we know it hasn't got it all wrong.
I refer the Honorable gentleman to the response I gave some moments ago (RE: [real]) - assuming that's the bit you think they got wrong.
I prefer to keep an open mind myself.
Yeah, I guess I'm a bit jaded on this now and sounding really negative these days, but I've been looking out for this game for literally decades and I just feel at this point if they're gonna paint a big picture, they've gotta have something (and show us something!) behind the facade to back it up.
 
Doesn't completely rule out parallel skunk work on Atmos. Going by stuff like this:



Presuming he's referring to Legs + Atmos style DLCs there. Some excessive context here which suggests he probably is. (Although I don't really subscribe to the broader 'combo' DLC theory posited there any more, now that the leak suggests a heavy Legs effort).

But yeah, 'not soon' seems like the prognosis for Atmos at the mo.
Very interesting.
I'm quite sure that their plans changed a lot since then. For example I don't think that the Season 3 he talks about is Beyond.
Beyond was a bug-fix season where many changes became necessary after that interview so he was clearly not aware about that yet.
 
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Yeah there is, they could say "that's not gonna happen". Which, to be fair, they did do during the Kickstarter phase.
They can't do that. If they say it's not space legs then it will almost certainly be atmospherics of some kind and they are not going to tell us in advance. It's not FDevs fault.

Then you're special.
No I am not. I am pretty normal.

How

Mmmm, yeah, but if you insert [real] before updates, then it still sorta fits.
They are real updates.

I use the term "junk" here to refer in the colloquial sense to Frontier's private parts, not how subjectively good or bad (or big or small?) those private parts are.
Then it's rubbish then. The leak could very will be wrong.

I refer the Honorable gentleman to the response I gave some moments ago (RE: [real]) - assuming that's the bit you think they got wrong.
I refer to my reply to said quote.

Yeah, I guess I'm a bit jaded on this now and sounding really negative these days, but I've been looking out for this game for literally decades and I just feel at this point if they're gonna paint a big picture, they've gotta have something (and show us something!) behind the facade to back it up.
As it is still early days, they probably have nothing to show of any substance anyway. Personally I would prefer to wait until they have something actually tangible to show us and I have no issues not knowing.

As to you being jaded, well that maybe your own expectations getting in the way. I have none and take each update as they come, some I have liked, some I didn't. I don't let that get in the way of my enjoyment of the game.
 
Then it's rubbish then. The leak could very will be wrong.
Has it? So far none of the Elite: Dangerous items mentioned have materialized anywhere. So it hasn’t shown anything as of yet that pertains to Elite.
And again, it's was very specific about what was going to happen with other FDev franchises and very specifically right.

You can't argue that it wasn't from a legitimate source.

And we have absolutely no reason to think it isn't right about the Elite stuff too, to hold any other view is just pure wishful thinking at this point.

I mean, who ya gonna call?
 
And again, it's was very specific about what was going to happen with other FDev franchises and very specifically right.
Never said it wasn't.

You can't argue that it wasn't from a legitimate source.
Never said that t wasn't.

And we have absolutely no reason to think it isn't right about the Elite stuff too, to hold any other view is just pure wishful thinking at this point.
Again, I never said it wasn't. You seem to be struggling with what I am saying.

The leak never once mentioned that atmospheric planets wasn't being developed, just that there was no mention of it. That doesn't mean it isn't being developed at the same time as space legs.

I am not questioning the leak, it probably is correct (but specifics are vague due to it being early days in the development), but to say there are no atmospheric planets being developed because of the leak is wrong.

We don't know.

They could be, they may not be. The leak doesn't say either way. All it said was that the leaker didn't mention atmospheric planets, they didn't say they were not coming.

So to say they are not being developed with your proof being the leak, well that is no proof at all. It's just fantasy that you have made up, just as much as mine. I knew mine was fantasy when I wrote it, but you can't seem to understand that yours is too.
 
The leak may well be 100% correct. It may well be 100% wrong when it comes to ED.
Yes, but as stated they were very close to release. The leak was also wrong about ED not getting any updates until the "new era". New updates are coming every 3-4 months according to FDev, they will be smaller, but they are still coming, supposedly.
It is also possible that the leak is wrong in regards to ED. We already know it's got something wrong in regards to ED, how do we know it hasn't got it all wrong.
Then it's rubbish then. The leak could very will be wrong.
Never said it wasn't.
Never said that t wasn't.
Again, I never said it wasn't. You seem to be struggling with what I am saying.
We don't know.

Well you seem to be saying we can just disregard it when it comes to what it says about Elite.

I'm saying you can't.

I'm also saying that as it didn't mention atmospheres it means we're not getting them, and to say we are is just wishful thinking.

I haven't read anything here that would change that world view.
 
Well you seem to be saying we can just disregard it when it comes to what it says about Elite.
No I am not saying that. All I am saying is that it could be wrong.

I'm saying you can't.
I am not

I'm also saying that as it didn't mention atmospheres it means we're not getting them, and to say we are is just wishful thinking.
That's up to you. I won't rule it out, but if atmospheric planets are to come, I expect them after the next era. Doesn't mean they aren't being developed now though.

I haven't read anything here that would change that world view.
Your view you mean. I haven't read anything that confirms your view either.
 
No I am not saying that. All I am saying is that it could be wrong.
Well I guess well find out over the next 12 months, then whoever was right can necro this thread and I told you so.

But I'll just leave with this with you.

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Well I guess well find out over the next 12 months, then whoever was right can necro this thread and I told you so.

But I'll just leave with this with you.

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Right about what? I am not predicting anything. I am just saying it is possible that they maybe working on atmospheric planets. I have never said they certainly are. Also even if they are we may not find out in a year's time as they may be set for a later release. We don't know.

The only thing we do know is that there is a leak which suggests space legs, it does not say that nothing else is being developed. You are assuming that the leaker knows everything. We don't know how much the leaker knows.
 
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