Attacked while docking
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Report to FD in a ticket, with all details day-time- ship-etc and they will restore your money and ship
Do security ships try and rob you?
I was flying in space with some cargo for a mission, then a ship came in, scanned me and told me to drop my cargo or pay something, then it attacked, when I shot back I got the wanted status, why would that happen?
Assuming you were not wanted when you arrived, there are two reasons why this might happen. If neither did in your case, then yes, file a ticket.
Reason 1: You ignored a loitering warning for too long. We've all done the "oops" of forgetting to request permission and frantically bailed out of the slot before the station opened fire. It's also real easy to get loitering warnings in larger ships - for example, you can't often get through the slot without one in the big 3 without speeding. Which brings us to...
Reason 2: You were speeding and another ship collided with you and blew up. If the ship colliding with you survived, that would just be a fine for reckless flying but if it explodes as a result of the collision that's a murder bounty and the station will immediately open fire.
Other than those two, or doing something daft like shooting the station, there's no way to aggro the station into opening fire if you're otherwise clean.
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Was this the same incident you were referring to in the OP? if it was, then opening fire in the NFZ, even if attacked, is an offense. Also if you didn't scan him and confirm he was wanted (which he should have been for attacking you but you MUST confirm it with your own scan before opening fire) then your fire is illegal, even outside the NFZ.
Reason 1: You ignored a loitering warning for too long. We've all done the "oops" of forgetting to request permission and frantically bailed out of the slot before the station opened fire. It's also real easy to get loitering warnings in larger ships - for example, you can't often get through the slot without one in the big 3 without speeding. Which brings us to...
Reason 2: You were speeding and another ship collided with you and blew up. If the ship colliding with you survived, that would just be a fine for reckless flying but if it explodes as a result of the collision that's a murder bounty and the station will immediately open fire.
Other than those two, or doing something daft like shooting the station, there's no way to aggro the station into opening fire if you're otherwise clean.
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Was this the same incident you were referring to in the OP? if it was, then opening fire in the NFZ, even if attacked, is an offense. Also if you didn't scan him and confirm he was wanted (which he should have been for attacking you but you MUST confirm it with your own scan before opening fire) then your fire is illegal, even outside the NFZ.
I'm pretty sure there's a bug related to the loitering warning, itself.
I've actually been docked at a station, in the hangar, tinkering around in the equipping screen, when I've become aware of a regular "beeping" noise in the background.
Quit back out to the cockpit view, realised that I'd been issued with a loitering warning and had to bail out of the station with it's lasers doing their best to remodel my ship.
I'm pretty sure I've read other people reporting similar things too.
Seems like sometimes a station will just suddenly decide it doesn't like the look of you.
IIRC, in cases where people have lost ships, FDev support has reimbursed people for the re-buy, if not for failed missions etc.
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I get a surprising number of federal agents scanning me, and then telling me I'm a "useless spacer" because I have no cargo.
Huh??
The federal agents are not saying you're a "useless spacer" because you have no cargo, it's because you're not pledged to an opposition power and aren't carrying any PP-related supplies. "Agents" aren;t looking for cargo like pirates or crimes like the cops when they scan you - they are looking to see if you're an "enemy agent" working against their power.
Nope the first time I was attacked was in mid space, I had just been attacked by pirate that was after my mission cargo (sold at a station in the system so not illegal), pirate attacks me I fight back and allies in the system came to help and we blow him up, while I am picking up the spoils after the pirates death (all materials, no cargo) a ship jumps to my location, demands that I give x worth of cargo or I will be blown up, ship attacks me and I shoot back, this gives me right away the wanted status, and 4 other ships there attack me, I managed to get away, flew to a station that was not hostile, I request docking permission and have the docking computer dock for me so I was not speeding and did not hit anyone else and hardpoints were not up, then I get scanned by I assume security and then attacked by everything there (I did not scan anyone, no illegal cargo or passenger).
This is btw in an allied system so it was all weird, never happened before.
You were wanted and got scanned by security at the station. That will get you attacked and killed. Once you get wanted you need to leave the system, wait for it to time out, then you can come back and pay it off...but don't get scanned on the way into the station or it will be reactivated.
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Have you maybe created a Holome with black skin color?
I'm sorry, can't resist bad jokes ^^
I'm sorry, can't resist bad jokes ^^
Anything like this:
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What I do not understand is how I got the wanted flag, I was attacked by a pirate and when I shot back I got the wanted flag, this was in an allied system. That kind of sucks about this game if you are not allowed to defend yourself.
Incredibly furiating, I am still debating with myself if I should bother starting it up again, there are soo many things wrong in this damned game, and my god the bloody captcha for every post.....
Capcha for posting goes after the first few posts once the moderators are sure you are reasonably human.
Wanted flags from pirate attacks happen, as mentioned above, if you don't wait out the scan to confirm your attacker is wanted or too many hits on innocent bystanders.
A thought occurs if you don't have Report Crimes Against Me turned on in your ships functions your attacker wont become wanted.
I mentioned this earlier in the thread...
This is how you get wanted for firing on a ship that "started it"....
1: Enemy ship fires on you. If you have "report crimes against me" (right UI options pane) turned off, he doesn't become wanted because your ship hasn't reported the crime. He might already be a known "bad guy" but if you don't have that turned on he doesn't get an additional ding for shooting you and the cops don't scramble to your assistance. If you do have it turned on, he is now wanted and the cops are on their way to your location to help you out. You probably did have it turned on, since that's the default and few folks change it without a specific reason, so let's assume he's now wanted and the cops are on their way.
2: You are understandably a little ticked off by the incoming fire and you run out the guns, turn around and let him have the full broadside. OOPS! You hit your trigger before your scan completed and before your HUD confirmed he was wanted. That means your fire was illegal and now, not only is he wanted but YOU are too. There are now TWO lots of cops incoming - one as a result of his crime against you and the other as a result of your crime against him.
3: cops arrive while the fight is in progress. All they care about is shooting down wanted ships and you're both wanted so who do they target? The highest threat. That's YOU. Wisely, you run away.
4: You're now safely in SC, wondering what the ... just happened, looking at the sparks coming off your console and thinking "I need to dock and repair this puppy!" You head for the nearest station. Second OOPS! - you're still wanted in this system. If you get scanned by the cops all hades will be out for noon.
5: you're midway through docking and the local security gets a line of sight on you and scans you. They see you're wanted and open fire. The station revokes your docking privilege and joins in. If you're not VERY lucky, this is where you die.
Next time this happens, go to the nearest other system that has a repair dock and patch yourself up there, then wait out the wanted status before coming back to your original destination.
Lol +1 rep for that - so well described ... you could have been describing what happened to me once
Yes, you are very close on what transpired, however
1. "Report crimes against me" is turned on.
I have my guns set to fire on my target, I do not pull the trigger myself, I have a ship that is not very mobile so it takes a while to shoot back, I was in mid space so this guy was the only one there until security backup arrived so no shots hit someone else by accident.