Avoid Posting Discoveries While Exploring?

[Cherrybark]

After enjoying the void opal and low temp diamond mining rushing, I've switched to exploration and started working on that merit badge. Currently I'm working on a leisurely, counterclockwise tour of the Perseus Arm. Thanks to several excellent threads on this forum, I'd say I'm in the "second stage" of this new career. During the "first stage" I was using fast routing through all scoopable stars. Now, roughly 10,000 ly from Sol and near the top of the plane, I'm using economical routing through A, F and G class stars. I placed a bookmark on a random star in the Perseus Crags and use a series of economical routes to head in that general direction. It's a slow trip but I'm the first visitor to most systems and frankly surprised when I see another commander has visited.

To the point of the post. I've learned that audio books, Netflix, Hulu, etc. are essential exploration tools when grinding towards Elite Explorer. And, while distracted, it's nice to use a tool such as EDDI to prompt which bodies are worth scanning in a system. I'm concerned about having my discoveries, particularly two ELWs, "claim jumped" by other explorers because I naively reported them to some public database before delivering my exploration data. Will turning disabling the EDDN, EDDP, EDSM plugins keep my data private? That seems like a question best asked on an EDDI forum. But I'll broaden the question to what other tools help focus attention to worthwhile targets while numbed by the Jump / FSS Scan routine?

 

[davinator791]

I think you can disable in EDDI tabs the plugin for EDSM and Inara.

 

[JonathanBurnage]

I very much doubt anyone is going to trawl through the thousands of systems that must get submitted to EDSM every day. If you have a discovery that you are particularly pleased with, the only thing to avoid is posting a picture of the system map with the system name unredacted, or by other means telling everyone exactly where the place is.

 

[Redfox]

And, while distracted, it's nice to use a tool such as EDDI to prompt which bodies are worth scanning in a system

As there have been mix-ups before: By "EDDI" do you actually mean EDDI (github.com/EDCD/EDDI/wiki) or EDDiscovery (github.com/EDDiscovery/EDDiscovery)? The latter does have the option to enable/disable sending your scan-data to EDDN/EDSM. Wrt having your tags stolen based on your submitted data: I very much agree with @JonathanBurnage's assessment.

other tools help focus attention to worthwhile targets while numbed by the Jump / FSS Scan routine

If in addition to credits you're also looking for interesting/uncommon parameters in the objects you scan then I highly recommend EDObservatory (forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/elite-observatory-search-your-journal-for-potentially-interesting-objects-or-notify-you-of-new-ones-on-the-fly-while-exploring.521544/).
For generally interesting data, analysis and visualisations EDAstro is the place to check out (edastro.com/mapcharts).

 

[marx]

I very much doubt anyone is going to trawl through the thousands of systems that must get submitted to EDSM every day.

You may doubt it, but it has happened before, and will happen again. It depends on what you found, of course, and where: ELWs in particular aren't very "safe", unless they are far away from the popular routes and destinations. But a "standard" ELW somewhere with next to no traffic, nor lots of other ELWs shared that are nearby? Pretty safe.

The only way to be sure is to make sure it doesn't go public before you had a chance to sell the data and get the tag(s). As mentioned by @Redfox above, you can check an option with EDDiscovery to not upload until you next docked. If you upload manually to EDSM, there's a similar option as well. (Actually, I think they are on by default in both.)
On the other hand, programs that generally upload "live" like EDMC can't do this.

Then again, the golden rule seems to be that if you find something you absolutely want your tags on, speed to the nearest inhabited system. After all, even if you don't share your find anywhere, someone else might come across it independently too.
And hey, once the galaxy will be filled with carriers, the nearest one will never be far.

 

[Cherrybark]

Just the feedback I was hoping for.

I have tried both EDDI and EDDiscovery. Right out of the box, EDDI, gave me voice prompts for worthwhile mapping targets and that seemed very useful. EDDiscovery may have the same function - I haven't played with it much. EDObservatory sounds like it would make exploration much more interesting, especially for a noob to exploration. A, "Hey, kid - look at this unusual thing." sidekick.

This trip started as a long march, credit grind but that's quickly seeming fairly pointless. I'm beginning to have ideas of mapping stars within a specific system or, with EDObservatory's guidance, landing once in awhile and taking a buggy ride.

 

[varonica]

It doesn't really bother me that much, if someone is mad enough to want to chase down my finds it's not an issue, I still know I was there first.

 

[Eahlstan]

It doesn't really bother me that much, if someone is mad enough to want to chase down my finds it's not an issue, I still know I was there first.

If someone is crazy enough to follow my steps he/she/apache deserves those tags.

 

[Orvidius]

I've usually been more worried about sniping tags from other explorers, rather than the other way around. I tend to do rather fast-paced loops.

 

[Deleted member 38366]

For what it's worth, I use EDMC to directly upload all discovered Data to EDSM without delay.

During all my trips, I only once ever discovered that a single untagged ELW had been tagged by another CMDR, making it a quite rare event.
I personally wouldn't sweat it.

It's far more likely that someone would try snatch a new Codex 1st Discovery of a super-rare Green Gas Giant for your current Galactic Sector than anything else.
(should you ever manage that, I'd strongly recommend buckyballing it to the nearest selling place to tag it )

 

[Niamh Kaminari]

I've usually been more worried about sniping tags from other explorers, rather than the other way around. I tend to do rather fast-paced loops.

Same here, I've actually on a few ocassions even manually went through my UC sell pages during my expedition and avoided selling certain systems because I knew another CMDR had got there first and deserved the tag, but just hadn't made it to the station yet.

 

[gooddoc]

Iv played since day 1, in the early days when discovery tags were introduced, I was careful not to report any findings like ELW's into a post unless I'd cashed in the data first.
That included the ELW database. BTW, this database no longer interests me & I haven't contributed to it in years.
I got my Elite in Exploration after cashing in my data from DW1, that was in the days when Frontier REALLY hated Explorers & payouts were disgraceful to say the least.

Now I don't give a toss about Discoveries anymore, if someone gets an ELW data set sold before me, so be it.

What i do though is not to run EDDiscovery anymore, however I keep my EDSM updated by periodically uploading my journal files manually into the site. I missed out on my first 7-8 months of systems in the EDSM, as I struggle to get my old log files to upload into it.

My interest in this issue wained when I became Elite & have since made thousands of discoveries & have made billions from sold data.

 

[Leif_Erikson]

Same here, I've actually on a few ocassions even manually went through my UC sell pages during my expedition and avoided selling certain systems because I knew another CMDR had got there first and deserved the tag, but just hadn't made it to the station yet.

I went as far as self destructing my ship when I found out a rare system that came from a EDSM database on the forum had no tags when I arrived.

 

[BDelacroix]

Never had an issue but then I am of the mind that in 100 years nobody will care if I have a name on a virtual galactic map anyway.

 

[Cherrybark]

Great to learn there are very thoughtful people in the exploring side of the game. Had the same experience with players while mining.

 

[CMDR SleepyDelegate]

Wow, never thought that there would be such a considerate people... I'm also worried that someone hands in the data from undiscovered systems before me, but that's life I guess... And I can't even tell whether I was inn those systems first or someone just didn't make it to the station yet... Quite frankly, unless it is some super rare discovery, I don't really mind if someone beats me to it...

BTW, nice avatar, Cherrybark... Regards from an owner of two Hungarian Viszlas! One of them is named, guess what? Pluto...

 

[Cherrybark]

A rescued male, that came with the name Zeus, and a young female named Zara. Love the breed.

 

[CMDR SleepyDelegate]

A rescued male, that came with the name Zeus, and a young female named Zara. Love the breed.

One of the two we have is also a rescued one... Named Chilly, 11 years old male from Slovakia, where his original owners just got rid of him when he was 7, put him to a remote place, where he would be guarding property together with two asians... Of course those two asians were not very nice to him... We saved him two years ago, now he is happy as a blueberry... The younger one we have from a puppy, male, he is 4 now, named Pluto...

But I did not mean to hijack your thread, sorry for off topic...

 

[Cherrybark]

Thread had drifted to a close so no problem.

 

[Crusina Luachra]

Just going to be blunt, I guarantee 99% or even 100% of your discoveries are nothing special. Much less anything that anyone would waste time sniping from you.

You have literally nothing to be afraid of.

This doesn't just apply to you, this applies to EVERYONE who plays the game.

The vast majority of discoveries are nothing special, nobody cares about your earth like unless it's a ringed one orbiting a Ringed L Class star with the primary jump point being a a black hole 100ls away. If you find something like that, sure MAYBE then be a little concerned but I've gone 6 months in the black telling people about what I found and nobody stole it.

Besides if you post about it first and have pictures and the like showing undiscovered and you get back and it's stolen by someone...it kinda literally tells you who did it. Pretty easy to shame them then.