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[Timoshenko]

Hello all fellow CMDRS well it has come to this sad sorry ending for my Elite adventures in the bubble went to Dahan this evening in my relatively new Cutter made Duke pre 2.1 so thought i would try the new missions, oh boy what a mistake i made getting this out of the garage interdiction after interdiction came by the same NPC in his invincible Vulture it was so sad to see my lovely cutter scrapped in a few pew pews

So got a little Hauler same again made mince meat out of me ,saw a vid today about using Mines never used em before errr..... dont bother didnt have time to fire em off boom that was that.



After a few haulers later made it to my Lovely Anaconda that went the same way just now but hey got the vulture down to 99 percent cockpit canopy went thought no probs i`ve got my Auto repair kit, couldnt fix it so running out of air fast even though i had 25 mins to start with ,my hull was down to 1 percent interdicted again trying to see out of a small corner of my window ,you guessed it gone in a flash.

Thats it for now putting it down going to play some of the other games i have i am not mad found it quite funny and sad to see this game become less enjoyable after every rebuy option comes up.

I am not the best pilot by far and i will have a go at combat pre 2.1 was ok i lost some won most now well all i say is good luck to all who say they havent lost a thing i have. not bitter just very disappointed in the game now .

So looking forward to the engineers for the custom elements it would bring looks like the NPC `s have got there before me at least . chow folks T out

 

[adrinker]

This is the best way for people to realize why they shouldn't fly what they can't afford to rebuy.

 

[myrr mac]

Take some time off, hopefully they ll fix the many broken things.

Try writing support a ticket. Support is by far fDevs best department.

 

[Steve_T]

I agree that something needs to be done to stop the constant interdictions but I don't understand how any pilot who can afford a Cutter and/or Anaconda, hasn't learnt how to escape. I'm flying a crappy T7 and I'm able to escape the Pirates and complete missions!

 

[JuicerPrime]

I agree that something needs to be done to stop the constant interdictions but I don't understand how any pilot who can afford a Cutter and/or Anaconda, hasn't learnt how to escape. I'm flying a crappy T7 and I'm able to escape the Pirates and complete missions!

In a sane universe where credit investment and player reward are worth more than a puff of intestinal methane, neither a 'Conda or Cutter should be running from a lone Vulture - a wing maybe, not a lone squawker. But hey! What else is new in the crazy world of ED ship design? [wacky] Enjoy your break from the game, OP. Hopefully you'll feel rested and refreshed enough to give it another look in a few months and stuff will have changed for the better for you.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

This is the best way for people to realize why they shouldn't fly what they can't afford to rebuy.

What an arrogant, dismissive response to a user having real problems with a game that they used to enjoy.

Sorry, OP. Give it some time and hopefully these issues will get worked out to everyone's satisfaction.

...there we go -- added both of those cats to my ignore list. That's much better.

 

[Bigglesof206]

Agreed with Vindelanos - people have happily played this game for a significant length of time, hundreds or thousands of hours, gradually making their way to the bigger ships via all sorts of routes, and a significant change to combat is introduced that catches many of them out - and when they dare to mention that this doesn't seem entirely reasonable they get insulted. People who now post 'git gud' style comments might like to consider this, whilst you may indeed welcome the AI changes it is still a significant alteration to the way the game has worked until now, and a little bit of tolerance for those finding it difficult or impossible to adapt would not hurt.
Dave

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

Skipped over a few (most) of the posts but...

If you're in a Cutter or Anaconda, you're not mass locked by Vultures. So escape is as easy as pressing the supercruise key usually.
I'm tired though and probably missed something important. Lol

 

[777Driver]

Skipped over a few (most) of the posts but...

If you're in a Cutter or Anaconda, you're not mass locked by Vultures. So escape is as easy as pressing the supercruise key usually.
I'm tired though and probably missed something important. Lol

Nothing is mass locking a Cutter (except another Cutter) It's hard to believe that anyone could lose a Cutter during a 1v1 vs AI, even harder to believe that someone could play long enough to own a Cutter & Anaconda yet still not perform a basic escape maneuver. Are all these posts the result of Robigo? I can't think of any other reason.

Tbh the worst thing about these topics is the op doesn't even seem to care about analysing where things went wrong, then 'myrr mac' comes along and tells him to write a ticket to support :/

 

[myrr mac]

Nothing is mass locking a Cutter (except another Cutter) It's hard to believe that anyone could lose a Cutter during a 1v1 vs AI, even harder to believe that someone could play long enough to own a Cutter & Anaconda yet still not perform a basic escape maneuver. Are all these posts the result of Robigo? I can't think of any other reason.

Tbh the worst thing about these topics is the op doesn't even seem to care about analysing where things went wrong, then 'myrr mac' comes along and tells him to write a ticket to support :/

Does it make you angry? Oh dear. I am so sorry.

Someone losing hundreds of hours of play due to sudden large game changes, even if they didnt play well, is totally not what support can and should deal with. Its far better to have such players ragequit and never come back. I totally see that. His getting some help handling the change in the game is really gonna ruin things for you.

Want a cookie? Some warm milk? What can I do to ever make this right again?

 

[Odan Brota]

Nothing is mass locking a Cutter (except another Cutter) It's hard to believe that anyone could lose a Cutter during a 1v1 vs AI, even harder to believe that someone could play long enough to own a Cutter & Anaconda yet still not perform a basic escape maneuver. Are all these posts the result of Robigo? I can't think of any other reason.

Tbh the worst thing about these topics is the op doesn't even seem to care about analysing where things went wrong, then 'myrr mac' comes along and tells him to write a ticket to support :/

This. For goodness sakes, if you can afford both a Cutter and an Anaconda, get some sense. Doesn't make any sense that you'd amass over 400 million credits and not figure out how to escape in a trade ship.

 

[777Driver]

Does it make you angry? Oh dear. I am so sorry.

Someone losing hundreds of hours of play due to sudden large game changes, even if they didnt play well, is totally not what support can and should deal with. Its far better to have such players ragequit and never come back. I totally see that. His getting some help handling the change in the game is really gonna ruin things for you.

Want a cookie? Some warm milk?

Angry? No not at all,just really curious, it's gotta be incredibly frustrating for him. Here's the thing, most of these kinda topics are not accompanied by a video, rarely does the Op ask what could have been done differently.

look, I am primarily a trucker & explorer, I don't even have Elite in Combat.. I still made a bit of an effort to learn from mistakes, seek advice from others and try and improve.

My only point is the Op has either been working a long time to get a those big ships, in all that time he hasn't tried to understand basic defense measures, or he's fast tracked his way to a big ship via Robigo or some other method and now found he is way out of his depth. Either way he should be seeking some help in defending himself.

Telling someone that they should log a ticket or take time out isn't going to help them long term, am sure if he found out how easy it is to avoid destruction he would start enjoying the game again, he's flying a frikin Cutter & Anaconda, a few simple steps and he can laugh off any NPC.

 

[Bacalao]

I just don't know how....I don't know how you can't kill a vulture in an Anaconda or Cutter or any of it really....I just don't understand the amount of terrible choices someone has to make to get to that point.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

Angry? No not at all,just really curious, it's gotta be incredibly frustrating for him. Here's the thing, most of these kinda topics are not accompanied by a video, rarely does the Op ask what could have been done differently.

look, I am primarily a trucker & explorer, I don't even have Elite in Combat.. I still made a bit of an effort to learn from mistakes, seek advice from others and try and improve.

My only point is the Op has either been working a long time to get a those big ships, in all that time he hasn't tried to understand basic defense measures, or he's fast tracked his way to a big ship via Robigo or some other method and now found he is way out of his depth. Either way he should be seeking some help in defending himself.

Telling someone that they should log a ticket or take time out isn't going to help them long term, am sure if he found out how easy it is to avoid destruction he would start enjoying the game again, he's flying a frikin Cutter & Anaconda, a few simple steps and he can laugh off any NPC.

That's why I keep saying, over and over again, that this forum needs to have a very friendly, very prominent survivability sticky ate the very top. So when people come here beleaguered and feeling hopeless, they are greeted with a big "Hey, were here to help!" sign.

 

[myrr mac]

777driver:

My guess is he didnt WANT to run, and got 6-oclocked by stronger new AI. Its easy to imagine frustration building up after being forced to run a few times. His English was a little disjointed and I didnt read every detail of what he wrote.

Howver I dont feel the need to be condescending, and give him a bunch of advice on how to improve. He probably already knows. God knows the forums are full of it.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

I just don't know how....I don't know how you can't kill a vulture in an Anaconda or Cutter or any of it really....I just don't understand the amount of terrible choices someone has to make to get to that point.

You understand -- you're just choosing to be obtuse about it. Prior to the update, the game was allowing people to slide without much risk. Now the risk has increased and people who learned the old play-style are having trouble and no longer finding the game to be an enjoyable experience. They want to enjoy the game, and helping them is the answer. In order to most effectively do that, you have to get through their wall of rage by identifying with their grief and offering to help them as much as possible.

 

[777Driver]

777driver:

My guess is he didnt WANT to run, and got 6-oclocked by stronger new AI.

From what I understood he was being chain interdicted in his Cutter, didn't sound like he wanted fight. He was followed by an NPC linked to one of his missions, you either kill the NPC for the bonus reward, play cat and mouse high waking (doesn't tend to work with a mission NPC, he'll follow you to other systems) or finally realise you are out of your depth and cancel the mission, the NPC will stop following you after you high wake out.

 

[Zazzilas Arden]

I don't get it.

I just recently got back into a trade Conda with 4A shields, two boosters, two chaff, and several point defence modules. No weapons. I just submit, boost, and jump. The would-be pirates and murderers that interdict me can't even get my shields down before I make my escape.

What are you doing? Running without shields? Neglecting chaff and point defence?

 

[Madriax]

Hello all fellow CMDRS well it has come to this sad sorry ending for my Elite adventures in the bubble went to Dahan this evening in my relatively new Cutter made Duke pre 2.1 so thought i would try the new missions, oh boy what a mistake i made getting this out of the garage interdiction after interdiction came by the same NPC in his invincible Vulture it was so sad to see my lovely cutter scrapped in a few pew pews

So got a little Hauler same again made mince meat out of me ,saw a vid today about using Mines never used em before errr..... dont bother didnt have time to fire em off boom that was that.



After a few haulers later made it to my Lovely Anaconda that went the same way just now but hey got the vulture down to 99 percent cockpit canopy went thought no probs i`ve got my Auto repair kit, couldnt fix it so running out of air fast even though i had 25 mins to start with ,my hull was down to 1 percent interdicted again trying to see out of a small corner of my window ,you guessed it gone in a flash.

Thats it for now putting it down going to play some of the other games i have i am not mad found it quite funny and sad to see this game become less enjoyable after every rebuy option comes up.

I am not the best pilot by far and i will have a go at combat pre 2.1 was ok i lost some won most now well all i say is good luck to all who say they havent lost a thing i have. not bitter just very disappointed in the game now .

So looking forward to the engineers for the custom elements it would bring looks like the NPC `s have got there before me at least . chow folks T out

That is very unfortunate losing both a Cutter and an Anaconda in such a short space of time.

As a fellow Cutter and Anaconda owner, I would like to know how you outfitted them? This is a serious question as it may be that your ships were under-protected.

What shields did you have? Did you have any additional armour? Did you have shield boosters? Did you have class A thrusters to help boosting away? Did you stop to fight and not try running away? The agility on the Cutter and the Anaconda are low (2/10) and they are difficut to manoever, especially against faster, more nimble ships. The Cutter cannot be mass locked by any other ship except another Cutter, so you should have had a very good chance to get away.

Pre 2.1 I could happily tank any NPC using class 6A shields and 8 shield boosters on my 720T trade Cutter. I never even lost an outer ring of shields, even under quite heavy fire. This may not be the case now! I will probably have to upgrade to Class 8A shields and lose some cargo space. But I will find out when I return from exploring this vast star-encrusted galaxy.

The Cutter can be an expensive beast to invest in and the insurance is very high. Did you put all your funds into the Cutter without the safe bank balance to be able to pay insurance or kit it out properly before venturing out? This type of strategy has caught out a few players in the past and it can be particularly painful after you have put so much effort into gaining ranks to buy the ship in the first place.

If you post your loadout on the Cutter and Anaconda - and the strategies you were using when you lost them, I'm sure there are plenty of helpful CMDRs who can give you feedback and advice to hopefully get you back into the game, avoid future mishaps and help you fly safer in the future.

Madriax

 

[777Driver]

You understand -- you're just choosing to be obtuse about it. Prior to the update, the game was allowing people to slide without much risk. Now the risk has increased and people who learned the old play-style are now having trouble, are no longer finding the game to be an enjoyable experience. They want to enjoy the game, and helping them is the answer. In order to most effectively do that, you have to get through their wall of rage by being identifying with their grief and offering to help them as much as possible.

There are pages of topics with cmdr's offering good advice, those topics haven't been deleted. I don't know how many times I've personally offered advice, someone even put all the topics into one thread. As suggested above, perhaps something should be stickied at the top of the forum, at least until escape tactics become common knowledge.

The devs should probably think about including a tutorial on escape tactics.