Dinosaurs Baryonyx and Suchomimus coexisting

luispaistallon

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Your Feature Request / Idea
I think that Baryonyx and Suchomimus should be able to coexist without killing each other in the game because in Jurassic World, both species coexist in the same attraction. So what to you thinks about it?. Bad or good idea?
 

Alan_Grady

Alan_Grady
Many other species, carnivorous species, should be able to coexist. I think even those who shouldn't not could in fact live toguether should they have enough space to get themselves a suitable territory and if they only had a decent AI, with some smart territorial behaviour implemented. But that's, in my opinion, is a question of AI and one of the reasons I think it is the most imperative feature the game needs right now. Precisely I was playing Nubla some moments ago and got tired when all my Gallimimus decided to split into chat rooms... that broke all the magic those amazing graphics provided the game ipso facto :(
 

Fireclaw

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The problem with that idea is that a lot of predatory animals *don't* co-exist in nature. They will if they fill different biological niche's but two creatures that not only live in the same environment, but also would compete for the same food sources would try to rid themselves of that competition.


That being said, with the changes to the carnivore behavior in general, it probably could be possible to get a sucho and a bary to live together if they had the same or similar stats, they'd fight, but so long as they were able to inflict low health onto each other before one or the other got to 1%, they'd both automatically back off.
 

hsf_

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Fireclaw said:
The problem with that idea is that a lot of predatory animals *don't* co-exist in nature. They will if they fill different biological niche's but two creatures that not only live in the same environment, but also would compete for the same food sources would try to rid themselves of that competition.


That being said, with the changes to the carnivore behavior in general, it probably could be possible to get a sucho and a bary to live together if they had the same or similar stats, they'd fight, but so long as they were able to inflict low health onto each other before one or the other got to 1%, they'd both automatically back off.
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Yes, Spinosaurus and Carcharadontosaurus were able to co-exist because they had different food supplies. Once the climate changed and Spinosaurus' food supplies ran out, they came into direct competition with each other, this ultimately lead to an accelerated extinction for Spinosaurus, as it was not acclimatised to competing for food on a daily basis.
 

Player 99234567

Player 99234567
well this could be solved simply by making Baryonx a "medium" class carnivore and keepung Sucho "large" granted that a new medium class would allow for coexistence for large and medium classes.
 

Jurassic Tyrant King

Jurassic Tyrant King
I think there should be at least a territorial claim for each carnivore in Jurassic world evolution at least to a certain amount of land so that way those carnivores can patrol it and still co-exist with each other as long as their territories don't overlap, it would be cool to see The fish eaters like baryonyx and suchomimus coexisting without the need of fighting each other.
 

Player 99234567

Player 99234567
Jurassic Tyrant King said:
I think there should be at least a territorial claim for each carnivore in Jurassic world evolution at least to a certain amount of land so that way those carnivores can patrol it and still co-exist with each other as long as their territories don't overlap, it would be cool to see The fish eaters like baryonyx and suchomimus coexisting without the need of fighting each other.
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that would be really ideal. It would be fun to let dinos loose and see how they claim the map for themselves. If they give some herbivores migration habits it could lead carnivores to venture out their established territory leading to confrontations with whoever's territory they are encroaching on. It would also give a new direction in designing parks, strategically placing water and food sources to see how dinos fight and migrate to them.
 

Indoraptor27

Indoraptor27
I want Baryonyx and Suchomimus to not hunt herbivores. They can keep fighting them but they should just scare the defenseless ones.
 

LordTrilobite

LordTrilobite
No, this would be really weird to have as a feature. Two nearly identical animals with the same ecological niche sharing the same environment? That makes no sense at all. for a start they lived on different continents, but if they met they would likely not have tolerated each others presence.

No, instead, if we want some carnivores to be able to live together, it should be based on their ecological niche. So spinosaurs could possibly live together with other large carnivores that have a different food source. Meaning that they do not compete for food. We know that Spinosaurus and Cacharodontosaurus lived in the same area. They seemed to have had their own niches, and so they might have tolerated each other.

But putting Baryonyx and Suchomimus together just makes no sense at all. That's asking for a fight.
 

Indoraptor27

Indoraptor27
LordTrilobite said:
No, this would be really weird to have as a feature. Two nearly identical animals with the same ecological niche sharing the same environment? That makes no sense at all. for a start they lived on different continents, but if they met they would likely not have tolerated each others presence.

No, instead, if we want some carnivores to be able to live together, it should be based on their ecological niche. So spinosaurs could possibly live together with other large carnivores that have a different food source. Meaning that they do not compete for food. We know that Spinosaurus and Cacharodontosaurus lived in the same area. They seemed to have had their own niches, and so they might have tolerated each other.

But putting Baryonyx and Suchomimus together just makes no sense at all. That's asking for a fight.
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As long as they each have a seperate source of food I see no reason for them to fight each other.
 

LordTrilobite

LordTrilobite
Indoraptor27 said:
As long as they each have a seperate source of food I see no reason for them to fight each other.
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That is exactly my point. Suchomimus and Baryonyx have the same ecological niche and thus eat pretty much the same food.
And if you mean having two fish feeders, that's not how animal behaviour works. They'd still see each other as competitor unless there's SO much food it's really not worth the effort. But those situations are the exception. Like bears coming together to eat a load of salmon when there is just too much to eat for one bear. In most other situations bears really won't tolerate each other.
 

MarcWP

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LordTrilobite said:
That is exactly my point. Suchomimus and Baryonyx have the same ecological niche and thus eat pretty much the same food.
And if you mean having two fish feeders, that's not how animal behaviour works. They'd still see each other as competitor unless there's SO much food it's really not worth the effort. But those situations are the exception. Like bears coming together to eat a load of salmon when there is just too much to eat for one bear. In most other situations bears really won't tolerate each other.
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I agree. But keep in mind, that animals being brought up together like lions, tiger, jaguars etc can learn to tolerate each other just fine. I believe I just saw a bear living in the same enclosure as a tiger and a lion. And they were all best friends. So it all depends on the upbringing. But since the animals are fully grown when they exit incubation, I agree with you.
 
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