Behavior patterns suggest Thargoids territorial not immediately hostile.

Cmdr Lucca1985

Cmdr Lucca1985
I've been pottering about Pleliades Sector HR-W D1-64

I have dropped in to three unidentified signal source non human signal source threat level five.

Upon arrival each time I have been scanned by the Thargoid interceptor present and then it has moved off

I have then myself scanned the Thargoid (Xeno Scanner) which then causes the thargoid to deploy hardpoints. It seems as though it does so as a warning interpreting the deployment of my scanners as a potential threat, however; I move off immediately after scanning and am not followed and we go on our way. It tolerates my presence in its vicinity (the green cloud)

It then engages its frame shift anomally which appears to be a wormhole opened by its Thargons.

Three times and ill go for three more later. The Thargoids haven't immediately fired so far. They assume defencive/offensive posture but do not open fire.

My hardpoints are not deployed and I did not interfere directly with what they did.

This is evidence to suggest they are not hostile to us, they may be indifferent. Only possession of their technology or Guardian seems to evoke a hostile response.

There have been wrecks at all sites but I cant help but wonder did they provoke the interceptor.

There is room for an opening of communications here somewhere
Does anyone else agree
 
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Teldja

Teldja
Cmdr Lucca1985 said:
I've been pottering about Pleliades Sector HR-W D1-64

I have dropped in to three unidentified signal source non human signal source threat level five.

Upon arrival each time I have been scanned by the Thargoid interceptor present and then it has moved off

I have then myself scanned the Thargoid (Xeno Scanner) which then causes the thargoid to deploy hardpoints. It seems as though it does so as a warning interpreting the deployment of my scanners as a potential threat, however; I move off immediately after scanning and am not followed and we go on our way. It tolerates my presence in its vicinity (the green cloud)

It then engages its frame shift anomally which appears to be a wormhole opened by its Thargons.

Three times and ill go for three more later. The Thargoids haven't immediately fired so far. They assume defencive/offensive posture but do not open fire.

My hardpoints are not deployed and I did not interfere directly with what they did.

This is evidence to suggest they are not hostile to us, they may be indifferent. Only possession of their technology or Guardian seems to invoke a hostile response.

There have been wrecks at all sites but I cant help but wonder did they provoke the interceptor.

There is room for an opening of communications here somewhere
Does anyone else agree
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I do.

My thought is simple.
Establishing communication with the Thargoids won't hurt and can be mutually beneficial without a bloodbath on both side.
Now, If all the Thargoids or just a sub faction of them are really an enemy then knowing how to communicate with them won't go to waste.
Rememberer how the US and UK intelligence cracked the communication code of the Germans and the Japanese during WWII ?
Knowing your enemy language, even in its basic form is always helpful to make peace and wage war, if necessary.

It won't be easy but maybe the Alliance could help establishing a "diplomatic cable" with the Thargoid hierarchy ?
 

Bryan K

Bryan K
I'd be more than happy to chat with the Thargoids if they'd stop stealing our people and stop trying to kill me when I rescue members of my own species. I don't care what their reasons are, that's just plain rude.
 

Cmdr Lucca1985

Cmdr Lucca1985
Bryan K said:
I'd be more than happy to chat with the Thargoids if they'd stop stealing our people and stop trying to kill me when I rescue members of my own species. I don't care what their reasons are, that's just plain rude.
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There is no way of knowing what they are doing.
 

Oztig

Oztig
yes, I'm with you - I've only encountered them 3 times, but they have only deployed hardpoints after I scanned them (normal wake scanner, not got the other one yet). My experince is exactly the same as yours.

I've even scooped some of the cargo from near their ship with no detrimental effect.

There must be a way to communicate.
 

Cmdr Lucca1985

Cmdr Lucca1985
Bryan K said:
Shooting me for rescuing a fellow human is hostile no matter how you look at it.
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How do you know the person in the pod wasnt a mass murdering pirate?

This goes beyond the singular here, we're talking about a species who can wipe their proverbial asses with us.

If by the end the worst that has happened is a few dead aggressors then we got off light. Dont try to apply microcosmic attitudes to something that affects us all

Id like to try and find some common ground before were all forced into exodus to Colonia
 

Bryan K

Bryan K
Cmdr Lucca1985 said:
How do you know the person in the pod wasnt a mass murdering pirate?

This goes beyond the singular here, we're talking about a species who can wipe their proverbial asses with us.

If by the end the worst that has happened is a few dead aggressors then we got off light. Dont try to apply microcosmic attitudes to something that affects us all

Id like to try and find some common ground before were all forced into exodus to Colonia
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Methinks you're roleplaying a little too much...
 

Bryan K

Bryan K
Cmdr Lucca1985 said:
Last word ad infinitum, there you are I win. Now go find another thread to make irrelevant



2.4 is a narrative
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A narrative that has already been set up to portray the Thargoids as hostile. They've wrecked 3 capital ships (yes, the Thargoids did it, because no one has turned up even a shred of evidence to the contrary). We've seen a mountain of evidence to show us that they are very, very hostile towards us. Just because people like you don't want to see it doesn't make your version of the story valid. The rest of us are content to follow the path that FDev have clearly spelled out for us.
 

Archduke

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Makes me laugh the referebnncesa to Tharogids "protecting their territory"There's nothing to suggest whatsoever (but plenty to contradict) that these aliens are in any way native to the Pleiades. They may not even originate in the Milky Way.At best, they are interlopers as much as humanity - at worst, they are an invading menace from beyond the Virgo supercluster.I, like ALL other FP brave souls, was born in this Milky Way galaxy from an ancestral line that has always been at home here. If anyone need be territorial it is the true aboriginals of this galaxy.Stop this sympathetic nonsense and eradicate the threat now.
 

Cmdr Lucca1985

Cmdr Lucca1985
Bryan K said:
A narrative that has already been set up to portray the Thargoids as hostile. They've wrecked 3 capital ships (yes, the Thargoids did it, because no one has turned up even a shred of evidence to the contrary). We've seen a mountain of evidence to show us that they are very, very hostile towards us. Just because people like you don't want to see it doesn't make your version of the story valid. The rest of us are content to follow the path that FDev have clearly spelled out for us.
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Thats better, you see now thats a discussive argument, what was the drivel for.

I agree that there is no evidence to the contrary and might have went along with it if the Guardians weren't a factor in the first place as their supposed progenitors. The recent actions I agree suggest hostile intent but the lore up until 2.4 dropped has indicated something deeper and I am and will always be hoping for that until such time as we get Galnet being taken over by them with a message such as "we're going to eat you, you better run."
 
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[VR] Frank_G

[VR] Frank_G
Bryan K said:
A narrative that has already been set up to portray the Thargoids as hostile. They've wrecked 3 capital ships (yes, the Thargoids did it, because no one has turned up even a shred of evidence to the contrary). We've seen a mountain of evidence to show us that they are very, very hostile towards us. Just because people like you don't want to see it doesn't make your version of the story valid. The rest of us are content to follow the path that FDev have clearly spelled out for us.
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That much corrosion damage we see on those capital vessels is not possible to be generated by a swarm or five of Thargons. It can be generated by the clouds that are left behind by dead Thargoids though. So actually nothing is clear here, as the destruction of those capital ships could simply be the result of trigger happy behavior. The evidence is by far not as obvious as assumed.
 

Bryan K

Bryan K
Cmdr Lucca1985 said:
Thats better, you see now thats a discussive argument, what was the drivel for.

I agree that there is no evidence to the contrary and might have went along with it if the Guardians weren't a factor in the first place as their supposed progenitors. The recent actions I agree suggest hostile intent but the lore up until 2.4 dropped has indicated something deeper and I am and will always be hoping for that until such time as we get Galnet being taken over by them with a message such as "we're going to eat you, you better run."
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The "drivel" is out of frustration that these sorts of threads have been cropping up again and again and again because people are clinging to their own fan-fics rather than following along with the story FDev is depicting for us. It's obvious that a peaceful resolution is off the table, and will probably remain so for the duration of 2.4.

The same crap happened back when the Cyclopses first appeared. People kept saying "oh, they're not Thargoids, blah blah blah. Guess what, they are. This is the same story all over again.
 

Bryan K

Bryan K
Frank_G said:
That much corrosion damage we see on those capital vessels is not possible to be generated by a swarm or five of Thargons. It can be generated by the clouds that are left behind by dead Thargoids though. So actually nothing is clear here, as the destruction of those capital ships could simply be the result of trigger happy behavior. The evidence is by far not as obvious as assumed.
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Not likely. Since the capital ships were wiped out before we had any AX weaponry or scanners, a single Cyclops could've probably done the deed without taking so much as a scratch. Most likely, though, is that they were taken out by a group of Cyclopses. We've already had sightings of up to four at a time, so obviously they can work collectively.

I get that you desperately want there to be more of a mystery, but your need does not make it so. FDev hasn't exactly been high on creativity lately, so it's likely that this is really all there is to it.
 

Urazz

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Cmdr Lucca1985 said:
There is no way of knowing what they are doing.
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I dunno stealing our people and preventing us from rescuing them looks quite hostile to me. If they were rescuing them then they wouldn't care if we arrived to rescue them and wouldn't throw a hissy fit when we pick up the escape pods.
 
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