I don't understand any of this; however, I have to say it is a very nice graphic.
I've a really thin line to walk here.It's basically showing how PvP'ers come into the game wanting to play a certain role, but bad or missing game design reduces them to ganking because it's the only PvP you can really do with any reliability.
I've a really thin line to walk here.
You don't need an excuse to whack noobs 24/7 in this game; however, if you feel compelled to come up with an excuse for a poor play-style then blaming FDev is the wrong way to go about it. Such a flimsy excuse leaves me wondering why you don't go play a game where you can be a contributing member to the PvP community.
I've a really thin line to walk here.
You don't need an excuse to whack noobs 24/7 in this game; however, if you feel compelled to come up with an excuse for a poor play-style then blaming FDev is the wrong way to go about it. Such a flimsy excuse leaves me wondering why you don't go play a game where you can be a contributing member to the PvP community.
Do not read my post as a personal attack.You're entitled to your opinion but this has happened again and again over the last 5 years... Also who says I'm not a contributing member of the PvP community? I've contributed more suggestions to these forums for example than 99% of the members, look at my sig if you're not convinced.
I don't disagree with the points until you get to the result which doesn't follow, IMHO.that nice graphic is no excuse for ganking, it's an infographic on the several layers at which frontier has gotten it wrong and failed to make possible what should have been their main mission in a multiplayer game: provide rich multiplayer gameplay. if you market a mmo of sorts you are expected to know and care about this stuff, they have shown neither, from design to policing passing through implementation. admire the results.
I don't disagree with the points until you get to the result which doesn't follow, IMHO.
People who enjoy ganking noobs do that because that is what they love - and they'll continue to do that regardless the other PvP offerings in the game.
I don't believe the chuckle-head who is claiming he ganks because the rest of the PvP sucks. (not the author)
If he really felt that way he'd buy any number of other games that have PvP that is balanced, focused, and working correctly.
Commanders that hang out in Deciat ganking noobs all night long for weeks on end are into that sort of thing.
That IS PvP for them.
They aren't doing it because of the failure of FDev.
PvP'ers don't often start out as gankers, here's how a ganker is usually created over time in Elite:
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I don't know what the term 'ganker' means outside of a grossly uneven fight (1).You're trying to change the focus of the conversation from general ganking to seal clubbing.. I never specified that in the OP.
I think the funnel is accurate if communicating the idea that, for a PvP game, Elite Dangerous needs quite a bit of work.Instead of this false funnel of mistruth
If I had as much time as the OP I'd edit this graphic to depict "majority GANKERS/some PvP guys" at the top.
The funnel just depicts the eras of false reasons that GANKERS have evolved and iterated through.
The bottom shows that the proportion of "majority GANKERS/some PvP guys" hasn't altered from top to bottom.
Instead of this false funnel of mistruth - how about the non-GANKERs in the top level "majority GANKERS/some PvP guys" - ie the "some PvP guys" either move on to a proper PvP game or go out there into the great yonder black with a "normal" ship (ie - a non uber-engineered, non combat optimised, fighter vessel) and just have some fun with it. Truly skilled PvP guys would have fun with this.
Failing that, I can honestly say that it isn't so much the game that "makes" GANKERS, it's that the GANKERS choose to be GANKERS as the first and foremost reason. Otherwise, they wouldn't be GANKERS.
I don't disagree with the points until you get to the result which doesn't follow, IMHO.
I don't know what the term 'ganker' means outside of a grossly uneven fight (1).
If by general ganking you mean equipped experienced commanders jumping other equipped experienced commanders - well, that ain't ganking.
I think the graphic is nice and well done.
I'm just picking on it when used to justify poor behavior by some people (not you).
Sorry, I already paid the hitman and he doesn't do refunds.false alarm then, we still agree
the result does have some point, although negligible, but i take it as a caricature or the punchline.
Many of the early members of these groups ended up joining SDC