Which was exactly the point Max was making.
EDIT: Yeah, I should probably read on a couple of posts before hitting reply.
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Beyond Beta - Who has access to it?
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Which was exactly the point Max was making.
EDIT: Yeah, I should probably read on a couple of posts before hitting reply.
I am not sure why you are arguing. You have no idea how much work it would be. It could take ony 1 person 5 minutes to sort out. I am just saying is it a good idea or not (I think it is), not how long it will take to implement as none of us know.
You are arguing for no apparant reason.
I have considerable background IT, servers and backends and it is certainly not small amount of work. It is certainly not a zero cost action.
It is good idea if there's net benefit. I don't see net benefit there. I would rather see server admin and dev work spent elsewhere.
Completely open to all PC Commanders - even if you don't have Horizons.
You'd have thought that answered it, right ?
Ha, no way.
Thanks for clarifying.
I have nothing against Mac's.. I still own one, the serial number is 00000012.
That said, that should also give you some idea how long it's been since I've owned one. I still get to work with other peoples', and I'm in no hurry to spend twice as much for half the capabilities. Back when, Macs were great, when they had Motorola RISC processors. Now they're just Intel Processors on Intel Reference motherboards. The Hardware Toolkit is a thing of the past. They've lost what made them special.
I am curious though, does Elite and Horizons run under Parallels?
There would not be any dev work involved and as to the server back end, no matter how experienced you are, you do not know how FDev's works unless you work for them.
If it is not much work I see no downsides to it, only possible gain for FDev.
Problem is that's not "if". It is considerable work for them. People outside IT always assume best scenario. IT guys will always assume worst scenario - and that is most likely being mild one.
Unless FD is ready to burn considerable cash for marketing purposes they are better off showing tons of beta videos with Horizons only features and having Horizons on sale in same time. That's way cheaper option for them.
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Sorry mate, but you seem to be talking utter nonesense now. I have never assumed the best case scenario. I am saying that neither you or I know the facts as you do not know how FDev backend works. So just please stop trying to argue with me over nothing.
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Tell me about it. I am just as guilty and sometimes feel pretty stupid about it at times.
Why? What on Earth are you basing this on?...
Why would it be easier to give players conditional access to different versions of the game (and develop different betas) than give everyone unconditional access to one single version of the beta (and only have to develop one beta?)
It would be a right old palaver creating different betas for each version of the game.
Best get the fully function beta out to as many people as possible for as much testing as possible than having multiple beta builds running simultaneously with different functions.
Bug testing will be more effective if all the functions are tested by 100% of the beta testers before pairing it down later to make the base game than having all the newer stuff tested by only a subset of the players.
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My thoughts entirely.
Because of how FD store database is tied with user database. It is not easy and never is easy. There's only few ways how you can do things. With experience you can actually assume that it is not very feasible to do that.
As long as management is ready to eat up costs of course.
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Huh?
I have a $4500.00 gaming PC, but when it comes to doing SERIOUS work either creative or otherwise I use my Macs. Windows sucks!
Unless you know exactly how FDev's server backend works (you don't) you are not in a position to tell us when we can or cannot say anything.
I can tell you. You can dismiss that
That's your choice. Not going to try to convince you I am just saying that having Horizons on sale during beta is way better strategy.
No you can't. You can make an educated guess, but that is about it.I can tell you. You can dismiss that
I would think that FDev would prefer to sell horizons at full price then at a discount price.
Yes, it is educated guess, but I can tell you that. I can tell you what I assume and what I know. And as I said, I am ready to bet there's considerable cost tied to this action.
They are selling EDH for discount all the time. There' no full price EDH anymore. It is constantly on sale now. I expect that to continue for all year long.
Bowing out anyway, no hard feelings.
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