Bigger maps confirmed? In this beta video?

[OriginalBadBoy]

being able to paint the terrain 1000x1000m and being able to build 500x500m suggested that at some point you were able to unlock the rest of the area

also i'm far from getting the pitchforks out, I have been nothing but fair, positive and reasonable at frontier. I still praise the game and every feature but not having bigger maps ever is simply where I draw the line and disagree with their choice.

I believe that this opinion of mine is more than fair and reasonable.

I'm pretty sure it's a choice based on a technical issue. Game developers don't choose to limit their games. They are limited by many other factors.

Of course your opinion is perfectly valid. But opinion and expectations are two completely different things. We are all off the same opinion that parks should be bigger.

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It might has to do with engine limitations. If they would say: Sorry the engine just cant handle it then at least it would be clear. It's that they don't acknowledge the reason why that is frustrating. Or the people in the forums saying "oh you dont need it anyway because I dont myself" where the frustration lays.

So yeah a discussion about yes we do need it no we dont need it is kinda useless.

If you dont need it you can build smaller.
If you do need it you can't build bigger.

Simple as that, so there is no reason to disallow us to build bigger unless it is impossible engine-wise. So it would be nice of Frontier at least gave us the reason why otherwise this discussion is pretty useless anyway.

It's called negative publicity. They are not going to come out a week before launch and say these things are not possible. It doesn't work like that.

 

[Ramm]

I'm pretty sure it's a choice based on a technical issue. Game developers don't choose to limit their games. They are limited by many other factors.

Of course your opinion is perfectly valid. But opinion and expectations are two completely different things. We are all off the same opinion that parks should be bigger.

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It's called negative publicity. They are not going to come out a week before launch and say these things are not possible. It doesn't work like that.

Yeah that makes sense. Still I wonder why we are able to paint it but not build on it. Or why in some maps are there buildings outside the grid we can build. That highly suggests the engine allows building outside the grid but they have disabled it for some reason [wink]

 

[Vampiro]

I would say that's a pretty good guess. [yesnod]

Im really doubting that...

The voxels are already on the screen. The map itself is big enough but the space we are allowed to build in is too small.
So i guess voxel-wise everything will stay as it already is since the voxels are already on the screen anyway [mouth shut]

 

[aDOLPHINjoy18]

I just saw this beta video on youtube

https://youtu.be/0L4Bd_QXiy8?t=2135

and I think this means we have bigger maps? Can anyone confirm? It certainly looks bigger, like the expected 4 times as big (2 times in both directions)

but I need to be 100% sure. Right now i'm 99% sure

in this video it also looks like its bigger https://youtu.be/kGDm8bHR45Y?t=10

Since I've seen no Devs comment in this section, they must be keeping it top secret. There was a thread which had multiple pages of people crying for log flume/water rides. The Devs were like top secret and quiet about it, not even contributing to the thread. And then on their official YouTube channel in one of their recent videos, they revealed the game will have water rides. To prove my point on how quiet they were, when they revealed log flume ride, they were SILENT (skip to 40 minutes in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IhGnBHgqYw )

I have hopes they will increase the map size and release it with the Full Version of this game, due out 17th November. Because even the mono rail station and track starting off point takes up like 1/8th of the map size we get with Alpha and Beta. I would also like Gondolas for transport rides, Taronga Zoo in Sydney Australia has Gondolas. There are two ways to Taronga Zoo. 4 minute gondola, or 10-20 minute bus, pretty much no one takes the bus lol.

 

[Ticmaster]

Rather than most people complaining/asking within a thread for bigger parks.that somebody actually starts a new thread( in capitals if you must) which has a headline of....Dear Frontier,will we get bigger parks? Or you can all just keep guessing for the next 300 pages lol. Maybe and just maybe,they might answer what sounds like a reasonable question.they've been good at listening so far!

 

[aDOLPHINjoy18]

Rather than most people complaining/asking within a thread for bigger parks.that somebody actually starts a new thread( in capitals if you must) which has a headline of....Dear Frontier,will we get bigger parks? Or you can all just keep guessing for the next 300 pages lol. Maybe and just maybe,they might answer what sounds like a reasonable question.they've been good at listening so far!

I think they like to surprise us. It could be a thread the goes on for 400 pages and no dev comments about it. Maybe they've been ordered to keep quiet about it? Or maybe they're sitting back having a [haha] at how many times we repeat ourselves [happy]

 

[OriginalBadBoy]

Since I've seen no Devs comment in this section, they must be keeping it top secret. There was a thread which had multiple pages of people crying for log flume/water rides. The Devs were like top secret and quiet about it, not even contributing to the thread. And then on their official YouTube channel in one of their recent videos, they revealed the game will have water rides. To prove my point on how quiet they were, when they revealed log flume ride, they were SILENT (skip to 40 minutes in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IhGnBHgqYw )

I have hopes they will increase the map size and release it with the Full Version of this game, due out 17th November. Because even the mono rail station and track starting off point takes up like 1/8th of the map size we get with Alpha and Beta. I would also like Gondolas for transport rides, Taronga Zoo in Sydney Australia has Gondolas. There are two ways to Taronga Zoo. 4 minute gondola, or 10-20 minute bus, pretty much no one takes the bus lol.

Again ... they have already confirmed on Facebook that park sizes are going to be the same.

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Im really doubting that...

The voxels are already on the screen. The map itself is big enough but the space we are allowed to build in is too small.
So i guess voxel-wise everything will stay as it already is since the voxels are already on the screen anyway [mouth shut]

But the point is outside of the boundaries of the park the terrain cannot be changed. So it could easily just be a normal mesh with a texture on top.

Even if they are voxels outside of the white lines they are still static, which would be a complete waste of resources if you can't change them. No self respecting developer would do that.

 

[DaWu]

You don't know that .. you cannot possibly know that . For all we know the limiting factor might be the voxel terrain.

There is obviously a reason why it's the case for release. You really don't have a clue how game development of the real world actually works.

But i know that. They want to Limit performance complaints and this is the only reason for the tiny maps. Still no dev reply on the matter. Fail

 

[widlanquebec]

It's really sad to have the same park size. So, what is the use of transport rides? [shocked]

 

[matty b1]

Hopefully they will include plans purchasing. Make it possible to start with a real small, carnival size piece of land and work up... Hopefully

 

[Ramm]

I think they like to surprise us. It could be a thread the goes on for 400 pages and no dev comments about it. Maybe they've been ordered to keep quiet about it? Or maybe they're sitting back having a [haha] at how many times we repeat ourselves [happy]

yeah that they keep quiet suggests they at least are thinking about it or going through options

i havent given up unlike some people here who want to keep the maps small for everyone for whatever reason they have

have faith

 

[OriginalBadBoy]

i havent given up unlike some people here who want to keep the maps small for everyone for whatever reason they have

I don't think there is anybody here advocating small parks over big ones. We all want to see big parks, some of us are just being a bit more realistic about the situation.

 

[bev1012]

But i know that. They want to Limit performance complaints and this is the only reason for the tiny maps. Still no dev reply on the matter. Fail

Whilst i totally understand the performance queries of having a bigger park. The game should cater to everyone & give players an option if they want a default size park or a slightly bigger one. Even if it means a cheatcode or performance warning. The people that want to build parks with no more content then we currently can, that just want to spread it out a little more should be able to do so. In the years to come peoples pc's will be upgraded & planet coaster will have more optimisations. It would be incredibly silly to not give players a choice of a bigger park.

 

[tyczj]

well they just confirmed Beta 4 has bigger parks now!

 

[bev1012]

well they just confirmed Beta 4 has bigger parks now!

YEP, just saw it lol LOVE IT!

'And last but not least, by popular demand, your PARK AREA IS NOW OVER 2.5 TIMES BIGGER THAN BEFORE! As a result of the team's hard work on optimisations, they have increased your park sizes. You’ll have even more space to put down rides, build crazy coasters, and craft intricate landscapes your guests will absolutely love!'

 

[Ramm]

Having faith helps [big grin][big grin][big grin]

cant wait to check the size out

now i can finally start with my dream park

This is the size now guys, it appears it is almost just as wide as the paintable area.

The length is pretty much the same, so the entrance could maybe in the future be made a bit to the back but this is a great start now we finally have room for transport rides