Black dwarf

KsenonsZed

K
Hello, I have one idea. How about adding black dwarfs? Black dwarfs are white dwarfs that have cooled and therefore do not emit (or weakly emit) in the visible range. They represent the final stage of evolution of white dwarfs in the absence of accretion. Although our scientists believe that this is not so, however, according to the latest data, scientists find stars older than the Milky Way! That is, they are most likely mistaken) They can be placed along the edges of the Milky Way so that beginners cannot reach them.







An example of a task: “Find a black dwarf and explore”, which is difficult to find, you can jump and scan while jumping or something like that. Thus, people will be able to jump to them already without a scan. And only the discoverer of the reward)



(Sorry for my English, I translated everything from Google) :sneaky:
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Skip Rockbounder

Skip Rockbounder
Can of worms I see here, Whilst I agree that it should be considered there are important issues that FDev skips. like mixing up White dwarf stars with Neutron stars, there are no Rogue planets or stars, there's no comets... we need much more bbefore we get to Black Dwarf stars... when they finally cool enough to call them that
 

Nadreck

N
The issue is that a White Dwarf would take so many billions of years to cool down that the Universe is not yet old enough to allow enough time for that to happen.

Yes, there are a few stars that appear to be slightly older than the Universe, but not by a large margin (so it's likely that one of the age estimates is a bit off). But a Black Dwarf would be a much more significant anomaly.

I'd be OK with FDev putting one in as a mystery, with a BIG payout for mapping data (after all, they left in Mitterand Hollow, a moon which orbits its planet impossibly fast).
 

KsenonsZed

K
Nadreck said:
The issue is that a White Dwarf would take so many billions of years to cool down that the Universe is not yet old enough to allow enough time for that to happen.

Yes, there are a few stars that appear to be slightly older than the Universe, but not by a large margin (so it's likely that one of the age estimates is a bit off). But a Black Dwarf would be a much more significant anomaly.

I'd be OK with FDev putting one in as a mystery, with a BIG payout for mapping data (after all, they left in Mitterand Hollow, a moon which orbits its planet impossibly fast).
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I think that you can find at least the smallest.
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
A black dwarf is a theoretical stellar remnant, specifically a white dwarf that has cooled sufficiently that it no longer emits significant heat or light. Because the time required for a white dwarf to reach this state is calculated to be longer than the current age of the universe (13.8 billion years), no black dwarfs are expected to exist in the universe now, and the temperature of the coolest white dwarfs is one observational limit on the age of the universe.[1]
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Because the far-future evolution of stars depends on physical questions which are poorly understood, such as the nature of dark matter and the possibility and rate of proton decay, it is not known precisely how long it will take white dwarfs to cool to blackness.[10], § IIIE, IVA. Barrow and Tipler estimate that it would take 10^15 years for a white dwarf to cool to 5 K;[11] however, if weakly interacting massive particles (WIMPs) exist, it is possible that interactions with these particles will keep some white dwarfs much warmer than this for approximately 10^25 years.[10], § IIIE. If protons are not stable, white dwarfs will also be kept warm by energy released from proton decay. For a hypothetical proton lifetime of 10^37 years, Adams and Laughlin calculate that proton decay will raise the effective surface temperature of an old one-solar-mass white dwarf to approximately 0.06 K. Although cold, this is thought to be hotter than the cosmic background radiation temperature 10^37 years in the future.[10], §IVB.
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Once the Sun stops fusing helium in its core and ejects its layers in a planetary nebula in about 8 billion years, it will become a white dwarf and, over trillions of years time, eventually will no longer emit any light. After that, the Sun will not be visible to the equivalent of the naked human eye, removing it from optical view even if the gravitational effects are evident. The estimated time for the Sun to cool enough to become a black dwarf is about 10^15 (1 quadrillion) years, though it could take much longer than this, if weakly interacting massive particles (WIMPs) exist, as described above.
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The game is set just over a thousand years in the future. You'd need to have a setting about a quadrillion years in the future before you saw any black dwarfs. Since Sol still exists in-game, there can't be any black dwarves.
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
While they are not "black dwarfs", FD already has "dark systems", presumably with rogue planets (gas giants smaller than Y-class stars) as "primary stars". They were originally planned to be navigational hazards (eg Dark System B lies on a direct line between Star A and Star C; attempting to jump from Star A to star C would likely cause a mis-jump and you'd be dumped down at Dark System B). But FD decided not to implement them. Still, the galaxy map was created with the existence of dark systems in mind, so, like the notoriously invisible comets, they are presumably still there (since getting rid of them would cause a galaxy reset). All FD needs to do is switch them on.
 

CMDR M. Lehman

CMDR M. Lehman
Sapyx said:
While they are not "black dwarfs", FD already has "dark systems", presumably with rogue planets (gas giants smaller than Y-class stars) as "primary stars". They were originally planned to be navigational hazards (eg Dark System B lies on a direct line between Star A and Star C; attempting to jump from Star A to star C would likely cause a mis-jump and you'd be dumped down at Dark System B). But FD decided not to implement them. Still, the galaxy map was created with the existence of dark systems in mind, so, like the notoriously invisible comets, they are presumably still there (since getting rid of them would cause a galaxy reset). All FD needs to do is switch them on.
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pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
Sapyx said:
While they are not "black dwarfs", FD already has "dark systems", presumably with rogue planets (gas giants smaller than Y-class stars) as "primary stars". They were originally planned to be navigational hazards (eg Dark System B lies on a direct line between Star A and Star C; attempting to jump from Star A to star C would likely cause a mis-jump and you'd be dumped down at Dark System B). But FD decided not to implement them. Still, the galaxy map was created with the existence of dark systems in mind, so, like the notoriously invisible comets, they are presumably still there (since getting rid of them would cause a galaxy reset). All FD needs to do is switch them on.
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Something else to add to the list of stuff I'd preferred to have seen before CQC, Powerplay, Squadrons, PMFs, Fleet Carriers....
 
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