Blaze your own trail. (PvP)

mossfoot

mossfoot
JosiahD said:
For mine, having bad guys in game is fine. But you're wrong - the majority of content in this game, whether you like it or not, is NOT furnished by the players. It is principally furnished by NPCs and PvE content. Yes, PvP is a *part* of the game, and with that come people who want to play the bad guy - but you do realise that that includes playing the bad guy against NPCs too? And that PvP is actually quite a small part of the game overall? It's not all about just targeting other players exclusively. We don't *need* bad guys as you put it, but they do add diversity, I'll grant you that - but bad guys who think that other players are there solely for his/her enjoyment? Not for one second. It creates a toxic environment in the game, and at times here on the forums - yes, as you put it yourself, it's just a game, but for the enjoyment of all rather than a subset who get off on ruining other people's day (if you think that's fun for the *victim* you're sadly mistaken - but it's ok for you to get your jollies at someone else's expense, because it's just a game, right?).
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For mine, the problem has never been that PvP is an available playstyle, but rather the problem is the selfishness of a subset of the PvP crowd who seemingly think it's all about them and that other players are to be *used* for their own enjoyment.
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And let's not forget that this crowd is exploiting the fact that the game presently has woefully inadequate consequences for attacking a clean CMDR in policed space. Play the bad guy all you want (I won't deny you playing your way) but you can't deny that you have it pretty darn easy given you pretty much suffer no consequences for ganking (or griefing, seeing as you yourself have used the term) some defenceless trader who subsequently loses the value of his/her cargo, has to pay insurance (a high cost depending on the ship), has lost time (which has a value to that player) and often won't have fun in the process......all for your jollies? And you want *us* to think we *need* you? When the consequences for your actions are almost entirely felt by your victims? Give me a break......
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Cant rep that enough.
 

mossfoot

mossfoot
Achilles7 said:


I sit on both sides here, I have been attacked & I only attack much stronger ships (& pilot must be at least 'expert') or wings of equivalent strength ships..before the Vulture tonight, I was stealth stalking a FAS & Vulture in a HazRES in LHS 3505..was that you? Decided against it because I had over 1m in bounties to claim..probably would have died, but it would have been glorious..& they are only credits, right?

Credits are so easy to come by and all of this is just fun, enjoy it..it isn't real life - some of you complainers need to get a grip!:D The only thing is - don't gank!..that is a waste of time for everyone & I totally understand people hating those cmdrs! It is those muppets who are forcing people into 'Solo'! I truly believe most players welcome a fair challenge, even if they were not looking for PvP!
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Rep there too.
 
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Alpha087

Alpha087
Can't say that I "NEED" any of you. I've been playing and enjoying this game for just over 1 whole year now and barely ever touched Open Play. While you're free to enjoy the game the game as you wish, all you're really doing for people like me is keeping us from ever bothering with Open Play.

I'm still content to continue enjoying the game as I have been though, without dealing with people who get their jollies off of meaningless confrontations with other players at random. :)
 

Starf

Starf
We need some sort of locator agents (eve like) , so we can track bad guys. FD give us tools to track and fight those griefers for mutual fun. =)
 

Chef-Jitsu

Chef-Jitsu
You need THEM more than we PvP pilots need YOU. We find lots of PvP with other Role Play groups in open that actually pirate and not just KOS anything that moves. I do agree that you bring content. I do agree you are very skilled (SDC). That is why I think you cause such an uproar when you kill traders or explorers just because you can. I have had some very in depth conversations with your members and have taken lots of slag for my RP stance. Then you make up some RP reason to just kill. While this fools people that don't really know what is going on, the more experienced community sees through what your doing. The frequency of these posts show that you as a whole (those that kill for no other reason than because you can) need to PR your actions. You do make a great point that hitting that Open Play button is a whole new game but a lot of players still expect not to jump into a system and just get jumped by 4 very skilled pilots without warning. You posting warnings on Reddit or FD forums is not enough. This assumes ALL players read theses sites while that simply is not the case. I can not count the number of times you claim to warn pilots in local. This is simply not the majority of the case, we watch your streams. I can see this going bad for me. Please understand that I respect your skills, just not your approach to the game. I do not mean offense but offer my opinion on a matter you posted publically. o7
 

Teldja

Teldja
Kinmob said:
Hello. I'm a griefer. Or rather what this community has come to call a griefer.
What I am in fact is a bad guy. I have bad guy friends and we do bad guy things. We have a wide variety of reasons we do the things we do. But really it comes down to us being "the bad guys". The game needs us. You don't have to like us, hell you shouldn't like us.

But you do NEED us.

This is a game. Remember in donkey kong how the monky would cheer you on as you climbed a ladder to say hi to the princess or Mario Kart, where everyone politely let you pass on the left so you could safely reach the finish line, or maybe God of war where kratos and Aries held hands and sang kumbya.

The content of this game is furnished by the players. If something is lacking stop ing to FDev and do something about. Form a player made answer to the bad guys. A coalition of groups that answer when "the griefer signal" is shining in the sky.

In in short please stop making posts complaining about different game mechanics to combat bad guys. Get some friends together and go kill us. It's fun for both sides that way!
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Disappointing.

You want to be a bad guys ?
Just do your worst.
Don't come here to brag or to try to justify your bad actions with such a bunch of lame arguments.
This is just showing us how weak your character in game is.
Just do your bad things in game.
Be fearless, a savage, a gentlemen pirates (or not), a low scum bandits or just be like Twitch from SW Knight of the Old Republic or whatever.
Be the best at whatever you are trying to achieve in game and don't forget that in order to have a good fun, it is always much better that everyone is having also a good time when you interact with whoever you want.


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Mr_Foxhound

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Kinmob said:
Hello. I'm a griefer. Or rather what this community has come to call a griefer.
What I am in fact is a bad guy. I have bad guy friends and we do bad guy things. We have a wide variety of reasons we do the things we do. But really it comes down to us being "the bad guys". The game needs us. You don't have to like us, hell you shouldn't like us.

But you do NEED us.




This is a game. Remember in donkey kong how the monky would cheer you on as you climbed a ladder to say hi to the princess or Mario Kart, where everyone politely let you pass on the left so you could safely reach the finish line, or maybe God of war where kratos and Aries held hands and sang kumbya.

The content of this game is furnished by the players. If something is lacking stop ing to FDev and do something about. Form a player made answer to the bad guys. A coalition of groups that answer when "the griefer signal" is shining in the sky.

In in short please stop making posts complaining about different game mechanics to combat bad guys. Get some friends together and go kill us. It's fun for both sides that way!
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you are a terrorist
 

Mr_Foxhound

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Mr_Blastman said:
Good! That's the spirit! Now get out there and hunt them down!
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i hunt them down every day/most CG, the problem is SDC have set a precedent that killing people at CG's just because its a CG is acceptable kinda hard to fight a full instance of terrorists when your the only good guy
 

Chef-Jitsu

Chef-Jitsu
Mr_Blastman said:
Good! That's the spirit! Now get out there and hunt them down!
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I think you misunderstand. We will not give them what they want. We will fight CMDRs who are a blight on the community. We need bad guys not players who kill for no reason. They need us more than we need them if they claim they really want at least somewhat challenging PvP.
 
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Mohrgan

Mohrgan
I encourage every player to 'Blaze their own trail'. Those trails also include not playing in open. Let those that consider what the PK'ers do as entertainment, or spice enjoy that environment. And, those that don;t want that kind of interaction should choose another way to play. Once all of that is sorted, there will be peace. It would help matters if FD gave new players the chance to truly make an informed decision at the onset, but that is another thread all together.
 

Mr_Blastman

Mr_Blastman
Mr_Foxhound said:
i hunt them down every day/most CG, the problem is SDC have set a precedent that killing people at CG's just because its a CG is acceptable kinda hard to fight a full instance of terrorists when your the only good guy
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Excellent. Now hunting bad guys is kind of like hunting game... you gotta lurk in the shadows. Wait carefully. Look for the sick beast that is trailing the herd. And then... when they aren't looking, when the other animals are busy... you pounce and then vanish in the dark.

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Chef-Jitsu said:
I think you misunderstand. We will not give them what they want. We will fight CMDRs who are a blight on the community. We need bad guys not players who kill for no reason. They need us more than we need them if they claim they really want at least somewhat challenging PvP.
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LOL so you're attacker blaming?

Instead you are allowing them to dictate your game. By running to group/solo, they win! Fight back! Take them down! It is the only way you can scare them away.
 
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Mr_Foxhound

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Mr_Blastman said:
Excellent. Now hunting bad guys is kind of like hunting game... you gotta lurk in the shadows. Wait carefully. Look for the sick beast that is trailing the herd. And then... when they aren't looking, when the other animals are busy... you pounce and then vanish in the dark.
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what the hell are you talking about ..hunting dear ? this is a space simulator mmo star trak game not cabela's big hunts
 
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