Newcomer / Intro Blue biologic overlay not showing up after scan

Cyanite

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Strange. Nothing has gone right today. But after sorting all my other elite issues, I finally put in my search parameters to find Stratum Tectonicus. No clue as to what I'm doing really w/re: exo-B. But I got my list of systems, arrived at the first, Elite Observatory (very helpful) tells me a planet prolly has a ST one on the surface after a I scanned it. However, the blue biologics overlay didn't show up. How do I find the damn thing now? Is this yet another "oh Cyanite, u've been away too long and you don't know how anything works anymore" type of thing? I mean I've been scanning planets all the way out here without issue. lol

EDIT: shouldn't the analysis mode pic below show the planet covered in the Blue biologic overlay? Combat mode seems working as normal.
 

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metatheurgist

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It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the "blue" consists of one or 2 pixels somewhere on the planet. Isn't this wonderful gameplay?
 

Cyanite

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metatheurgist said:
It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the "blue" consists of one or 2 pixels somewhere on the planet. Isn't this wonderful gameplay?
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Bwhahahahaaaahahaaaa! OMG, That's awful. But yer prolly right. I had nvr considered that and I've played this game since 2017 (Off n' On). I mean I went to a 2nd planet in the same sys that also had Biologics and it worked fine. I remember when they got rid of POI's and did this instead, but I nvr got into it so my exp with Exo is limited to the last few hours. So far it's been an adventure in despair, but that's bound to turn around...RIGHT!???, riiiiiiiight?... hello?

Sooo, I'll head back and look for the li'l blue dot. Excellente!:poop:
 

Cyanite

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varonica said:
Look on the dark side, sometimes they are so hard to see that's the only way to spot them. Took me ages to spot these little beggars, the little blue dots on the light side can easily be washed out to be all but invisible.
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"look on the dark side" hehe. Holy Sh!zz, that's nuts. I'm definitely glad I posted this thread EVEN THOUGH I definitely thought fer a minute it was another episode of user error. It's good to know that these tiny bits of biological hotspots are a thing so thank u both letting me know. I'll keep a keener eye on it.

Soo, ya.. clueless re: Exo B. Getting better after yesterday, but equally clueless with Elite Observatory, but again getting a handle on it. I def thought EO was telling me these items existed on the surface as opposed to "might exist". BUUUT, I did triple chk. When I was scanning there were a cpl targets or so I thought that were of interest according to EO. Later when I dug into the ED UI for the planet I noticed it said 'NO FEATURES'. I was sure EO told me there were. Sure enough, EO said there could be a bacterium or an ST on the surface yet ED said no features and of course I got no blue. I find it difficult to believe this bug as I assume EO is just reading right from the game journals. It's weird. Any way I'm over it and moved on.
 

varonica

varonica
Cyanite said:
when I dug into the ED UI for the planet I noticed it said 'NO FEATURES'
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"Features" and "Locations" are two different things, check on the system map, it will tell you whether or not there are biologicals. EO does use the data from the journal, it won't tell you there are things if there are none, well except in the case of already inhabited systems where you have to get the data from the nav beacon because that doesn't supply all the data EO needs, then you have to map the planet to get the correct data. But if you use the FSS to map the planets in the system then EO will always know there is no bio on the planets and won't tell you otherwise.
 

Nowski

Nowski
Cyanite said:
I might go back just to quadruple chk.pretty sure it's the first sys on m spansh list.
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Just a dumb question to check, because you didn't explicitly mention it.. You did use the detailed surface scanner, where you fire off the little mapping drones or w/e, and get the planet to 100% mapped, right?

Because you say: "Elite Observatory (very helpful) tells me a planet prolly has a ST one on the surface after a I scanned it." which sounds like you might only FSS scanned it, but you need to use the DSS to get the blue overlay to show up.
 

Cyanite

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Nowski said:
Just a dumb question to check, because you didn't explicitly mention it.. You did use the detailed surface scanner, where you fire off the little mapping drones or w/e, and get the planet to 100% mapped, right?

Because you say: "Elite Observatory (very helpful) tells me a planet prolly has a ST one on the surface after a I scanned it." which sounds like you might only FSS scanned it, but you need to use the DSS to get the blue overlay to show up.
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In short..Yes, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY (gonna hijack my own thread) is this you? >>> https://cmdr-nowski.github.io/syscol_helper/
Cause I just raced back to the bubble using the Newt-plotter to use it so thank you for putting it together.

But,ya Instead of saying "..after I scanned it", I should (for clarity) have said "after I FSS'd it" (as opposed to DSS'd").
It is my contention.. based on my recollection (so you know things are getting sketchy now lol) that..

1) I used the Full Spectrum Scanner to scan through the system.
2) After doing so I saw that EO (Elite Observatory) listed two systems with bio signals ( both with possible bacterium and at least one with a possible ST)
3) I then used the DSS (Detailed Surface Scanner) on the first (closest to the arrival star) and got no blue overlay. The other body that EO said had bio signals was almost all blue.

I'm a newp at exo-b and even newpier with EO so I fully expect the error to be me (especially since both myself and Varonica are in agreement that EO is just reading journal stuff so how could my assertion above be correct). I coulda sworn I check it like 3 times. I have to go back now that i know more of what I'm doing. At least we have that pic which has the system info in it. Now someone can go chk, see that im and we can all put me in the pillory for wasting y'allz time. Huzzzah!:p
 

Nowski

Nowski
Cyanite said:
is this you? >>> https://cmdr-nowski.github.io/syscol_helper/
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It is, yeah, new experimental version with some trucking support at https://cmdr-nowski.github.io/scuffed/

Thanks for noticing :) There's other tools out there, too, especially @DaftMav's spreadsheet ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jsZOzNJSnPIWlU88puOc9gQXvsw-MGp8meoQ6k-Yj-Y/copy?usp=sharing ) which is the definitive reference right now, as near as we have one..

But back on topic, yeah, if you did DSS then it could be just one of those planets where the blue bits are very tiny and hard to spot; rare, but it happens. It was worth asking about DSS because you're new at it and didn't mention by name, anyhow.
 

varonica

varonica
Cyanite said:
3) I then used the DSS (Detailed Surface Scanner) on the first (closest to the arrival star) and got no blue overlay. The other body that EO said had bio signals was almost all blue.
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The "blue overlay" is really a misnomer in many regards because some blue spots are to small to see from the distance most people use the DSS, or in some cases might only be on the other side of the planet, for instance on an icy pole area, so you won't get any visible blue area on some bodies unless you get a lot close and in the right area. This has been brought up as a subject before where people have claimed there was no blue area but a lot of searching by a couple of people in the end did indeed turn up a tiny spot of blue to small to see from a distance away. If the system map says there is bio there it always is, if EO says there's bio but the system map doesn't then there isn't.

The problem here is you are not telling us whether the system map said there was bio. It is indeed possible for EO to present a false positive using the FSS, but not possible for it to still show a false positive after using the DSS because the DSS scan overrides the false positive FSS notification. There was certainly bio if EO said there was after the DSS, you just didn't find it.
 

Cyanite

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Yes, that's why I was confused, but I'm still not convinced the error was on my part somehow. I need to go back to be 100% as to what was weird. I do remember checking it it like 3 times.
 

varonica

varonica
Cyanite said:
Yes, that's why I was confused, but I'm still not convinced the error was on my part somehow. I need to go back to be 100% as to what was weird. I do remember checking it it like 3 times.
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Ok that sound like a bug in the program then and should be reported on the relevant thread, if the DSS scan shows no bio then EO should see that and change the bio report to show no bio.
 
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