News Bonus Weekend: Trade & Engineering (24/05 to 30/05)

I'm not sure if there is a better place to post this for FD to see it, but the Frontier Store, if launched by the Launcher in Steam, does not have have the discounts/sale.

I purchased some stuff yesterday at full price (which I'm good with as the sale appears to happen today plus was a token of appreciation for the Bonus Weekend!) but wanted to buy more stuff today from the sale, but using my Steam Wallet through Steam has no sale items.. :(
 
Awww, nuts ... this explains why having gone around collecting materials according to the recipes as listed on inara I then got to Lei Chung and inexplicably had all the wrong stuff!!!
 
Hmm.
Just docked at Vatermann LLC to upgrade Heay Duty SBs.
Cost for grade 5 is shown as:
1 x Inconsistent Shield Soak Analysis (grade 2)
1 x Electrochemical Arrays (grade 3)
1 x Boron (grade 1)

EDD tells me it's normally:
1 x Untypical Shield Scan (grade 3)
1 x Polymer Capacitors (grade 4)
1 x Antimony (grade 5)

I am still at a loss trying to match this observation with the advertised discount, even with the subsequently edited information added for clarity: "This bonus relates to the rank of materials (...) The cost for engineering a module at Grade 5 will use Grade 4 equivalent materials (...)".

There seems to be a mismatch between the normal recipe's Antimony (grade 5) and the discounted Boron (shown as grade 1, but may in fact be grade 3), which differ by more than just one grade. In addition, this mechanism makes it next to impossible to correctly guess the replacement discount materials.

Apart from that, I actually do not stock enough of the altered "discount" materials to actually gain something of this, as I can't do more upgrades than I would have with the original recipes, sometimes even less.

I presume that there is a good bunch of people who collect materials specifically for a much wanted upgrade (there's even a number of 3rd party tools out there that help you with that).

I feel that altering the recipes might not have been the best way to stage an engineering discount...

Hi I just used my pinned blueprint for SB heavy duty.
You have right. Boren is used in place of antimony. However, the game storage panel will tell you Boren is grade 1.

But when you go to the trader. You will see that Antimony is referred as grade 4. And Boren is just at left of it. (which mean the trader considers boren as a grade 3.)

My pinned blueprint works as intended. Boren (grade 3). But the storage right panel says it's grade 1.

I think it is just a bug but it worth a bug report. If I have time I will do so.

EDIT: This is a mismatch grade level between game reference and trader reference. Or something like that.
 
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Honestly, I've traded a few bits and pieces with my T9 and although there is a slight rise in profits the best I've managed so far is a 7 million profit on a two station loop trade on a full load.

I all honesty, I was making more money yesterday out in the Chuan Shun - Hip 11928 group of systems in the Python.

Off to have a look at what I can do with this weeks trade CG cos that at least gives me a cash bonus at the end to top up any trade bonus I can make hauling for the CG

Thanks! I received similar feedback on Twitter. This isn't enough to pull me away from Skyrim VR (PS4). [down]

I'll come back when the next update drops to see if Frontier actually fixed the bugs I reported ages ago... I've never really been one to chase easy money anyway (if that changes, Yamiks can point me in the right direction).
 
Has this been said? Here is the first evidence of what will likely be a significant change to this game: it's about to become a FTP game. This is not a good sign. But. Enjoy it while it last folks, enjoy!
 
Apart from that, I actually do not stock enough of the altered "discount" materials to actually gain something of this, as I can't do more upgrades than I would have with the original recipes, sometimes even less. I presume that there is a good bunch of people who collect materials specifically for a much wanted upgrade (there's even a number of 3rd party tools out there that help you with that)

Awww, nuts ... this explains why having gone around collecting materials according to the recipes as listed on inara I then got to Lei Chung and inexplicably had all the wrong stuff!!!

The Materials Trader is your friend -- do a little cross-leveling and it's easy to take advantage of this sale. If you Google "Inara material trader" you'll easily get a link to show you where the nearest ones to you are without having to use the ill-conceived in-game UI for that.

For my part, I love this sale, even though I did a ridiculous amount of engineering earlier this week (naturally!) ...but I'll also admit that I'm a compulsive material hound -- no matter where I'm going in any multi-role ship, I'll almost *always* check out each USS and drop into all that resolve as HGEs, Combat Aftermath, and Encoded Emissions signal sources. And while in supercruise, I scan any ship that comes into my sensor cone. And slup up the mats from all large-hull pirates that are silly enough to interdict me (all the large-hull ships drop nice mats, especially the T-10!). Those activities help break up the monotony a little bit for me. And I usually choose the mats or data type options when running missions rather than just the cash. So I usually, effortlessly, keep around 70-100 of each material and many of the data types (except for the G5 mats, which I rarely seem to get about 40-60.
 
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Hello Commanders,

We’re pleased to announce that, from May 24 to May 30, we will be introducing an extended ‘Bonus Weekend’, which will bring temporary but lucrative bonuses to the galaxy!

The bonuses we will activate for this period are as follows:

  • All profits from trading activities will be increased (the amount of profit will vary depending on what you are shipping and where you’re shipping it to. Rare commodities are excluded from this bonus.)
  • The materials requested for engineering recipes will be at one rank below the existing ones (cheapening the current cost of engineering your modules.) Edit: There are 5 ranks for materials (as can be seen in the Material Trader) and 5 ranks for engineering recipes, and these are two different ranks. This bonus relates to the rank of materials, not the rank of engineering recipes. The cost for engineering a module at Grade 5 will use Grade 4 equivalent materials, not the materials seen in Grade of the engineering recipe of that same module. We have made the changes ingame to reflect the bonus, what you see ingame right now is what you need for engineering a module during this bonus period.
Whether you’re a penniless pauper or a wealthy space-tycoon, it’ll pay to haul this weekend, so dust off your freighters and get out there!

Oh, and if you need a little extra jump-range, the engineers have you covered!

Let us know what you think about the upcoming bonus weekend

Hi Will, thanks for the update. Feedback as follows.

Trading I can understand, due to the decision points involved in any singular game (regardless of mode). With a choice of trading strategy happening at "every two journeys", (if not every time, or indeed larger loops) trading outcomes, (presently or historically) are not really devalued other than by circumstance (as opposed to, by the BGS). Arguably. Sort of, in the absence of the existence of magic. But then it's a big Universe.

Rares I get, as it seems they aren't cared about other than to serve as logistical items, or a very useful player group as a result. We wouldn't want to annoy them by devaluing their services.

The current reasoning behind materials including this one, I will never understand. Mats are stored are they not? Players still have mats from before this weekend, which now represent a lower "return on engagement", bearing in mind any mats related activity by that player? How is that metric being balanced in the context of these announcements?

Same rules apply to Engineers discounts.

Also, any other feature which arbitrarily ignores RoE and associated metrics.

and if you have any questions, we’ll do our best to answer them!

Some of these questions are serious, some of them couldn't be more serious, especially the statements. If you could get some useful information regarding these? Thanks.

1a/. How long has this apologia exercise been planned?

1b/. Can we expect to see similar reaction planning by the Design Marketing Department, going forward?

2a/. Prior to this exercise (call it this week)...Can you outline the repeatable process, and the relevant teams that are required to follow it...which were used in order to provide balance over all ED performance metrics, as well as archived existing, in-flight or pipelined ED Projects including content and Arc?

2b/. Who at Frontier is ultimately accountable for performance related content issues?

2c/. Expressed as a percentile, by how much has the fiscal component associated with the ED Design and Development Budget, been reduced...or indeed increased on an annual basis since 2012?

3/. My Lifetime Expansion Pass cost me £130, and to date has not provided any benefit for any parties affected, primarily due to not yet being activated. So my question is this:

Can I have it back please?

Thanks!
 
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So, I'm in-game now and at Tod. Everything's the same grade price as it always was. I'm confused as to how the upgrades to modules are cheaper..

Edit: Never mind. Didn't realize INARA tweaked their website in accordance to the bonus. Silly me. >_<
 
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Has this been said? Here is the first evidence of what will likely be a significant change to this game: it's about to become a FTP game. This is not a good sign. But. Enjoy it while it last folks, enjoy!
LOL! In it's current form, it struggles with 5-15 commanders in a single instance. I hardly think it's anywhere in the same zipcode as being FTP-ready where you'd have 100+ freeloader, teens and pre-teens in an instance using their parents computer. :D
 
Has this been said? Here is the first evidence of what will likely be a significant change to this game: it's about to become a FTP game. This is not a good sign. But. Enjoy it while it last folks, enjoy!

Huh? How/why would it become FTP? There's a payable DLC coming out in like 6 months supposedly (which will be atmospheric landings or else)!
 
Anyone looking at their pinned recipes? I'm seeing oddities. Here is a screenshot of Lei Cheung, grade 5 Thermal Resistant Shields:

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It's not what I'm seeing when I go to a remote workstation but when I look at my engineer's pinned recipes, it shows grade 1 for all recipes at all levels.
 
Has this been said? Here is the first evidence of what will likely be a significant change to this game: it's about to become a FTP game. This is not a good sign. But. Enjoy it while it last folks, enjoy!

Free to play you say? When is GTA coming free to play then? When is (insert paid for game with bonus weekends) going to be free to play then?
 
The engineer stuff isn’t working tho.
Its still making me use the same required items

do they mean the materials trader used a tier less and not the engineer?
 
The engineer stuff isn’t working tho.
Its still making me use the same required items

do they mean the materials trader used a tier less and not the engineer?

I was thinking the same yesterday until someone told me that Inara already applied the changes and we're seeing the reduced Material lists for the G5 upgrades.

I immediately made an appointment with my eye doctor for being so blind.
 
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