Bot attack in eranin?

I once took a 5% faction to 80% just to troll a player faction in a few days

I knew it

I am a bot :(

Also the best time to attack a faction is when they are expanding cause the will lose influence because of the expansion
 
said that if upnp is not enabled then you cant get into the bots instance and there is no defense against it. Is this true?

that makes no sense whatsoever. if you disable upnp you can use port forwarding, and the client will (afaik, this might be obsolete) resort to a 'stun' server (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN) to negotiate connections. while these technical details do have consequences in open, i can't imagine how they could be related to botting. all a botter has to do is chose 'solo play' or 'private group' and bot to his mechanical heart's content (or his shiny metal asp's, ymmv) without any worry in the galaxy. you just were told senseless gossip (although i would be glad to stand corrected and learn something). there would be a remote speculation possible, in that a botter would choose to do it in open with a particular setting just so to avoid being in the obvious supervised area. but then he (it) would still be in open exposed to other players. not sure that's a smart move, and since i'm convinced frontier doesn't supervise squat, that possibility seems really farfetched. but one never knows ...

to clarify: i just responded to that explanation. that there were bots involved is indeed possible, but totally (imo) unrelated.
 
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Ok to point some misleading information. Our group isn't inactive in any case we got at least 10-20 cmdrs active on daily activities and if we influence so if you make some research you could see that, we are dealing with very high traffic systems where doing BGS is very hard to counter. Next thing we can explain part of our influence drop and quick rise up of Eranin People party faction. We had to deal with war and EPP got outbreak so that part is not result of any botting activities. The weird part was when we went out of war in other system and EPP outbreak finished we gained first day 10% positive influence and that's when 120 cutter traffic was spotted in over the time of Election. We only know this traffic managed to push large support 30-50 cmdrs aiding on our side over the water and we had no chance. Than we got report from faction that was delaing with attacks from bots before in Powerplay (5C) bots that one of the bots they befriended was spotted in the system flying in open but unable to instancing with other cmdrs even though we tried to get instanced with the cmdr, we had no luck. Cmdr account was #notallorcs.
So we don't know what we were delaing with we can only assume and talk about our experience
 
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My bad for miss typo. I was typing fast at work and I know my English isn't perfect so excuse me for not being native English speaking person didn't had that privilege.

No worries - I've been lucky if I get one word in three correct this morning and English is​ my native language :)
 
Devil's advocating for a moment, but why do you suspect a bot?

It's a 450k pop system, and it's a 50% swing towards Eranin People's Party over 4 days. That's not unreasonable if you know what you're doing, even for just one person. I can tank a faction's rep down by 30% in a single tick given the right conditions, no exploits.

What's the traffic report say?

EDIT: Also, maybe do some research. I've observed massive swings for factions before, and found patterns. Often those swings are because:
- Powerplay (noting: it's a Mahon system, and he's weak against Communism for control)
- Farming hotspot (One system I was flipping had heavy resistance... turns out it was a popular rank farming spot)

All very true and I have done the same myself on several occasions for the wings I am supporting, its very easy to lower another player faction by a single player. Also if another player faction close by wishes to prevent a player faction expanding or to just lower them in the system they will often do this by supporting a NPC faction to take their holdings, which in turn weakens them and slows down or stops the that players wing from expanding in the near future therefore securing their expansion or protecting their area.

It only takes a few players one tick to knock another player faction off the pedestal and another tick to totally ruin them. I would check to see if another player faction is close and where they are expanding to.

So it may not be bots as people sometimes think.

Fly safe Cmdr's
o7
 
Sounds like a wrong put right to me. Who cares how it was achieved.

I care for the same reasons that combat logging or board flipping annoy me.

That said, unless there is some evidence of something other than standard gameplay at work here, I'm not going to assume bots were responsible.
 
It is always bots if you feel your PMF is treated unfairly or you are losing.

You are twitsting facts now here. Nobody from our pmf made that claim we got notified about it from 3rd party wfrom other people assisting us who had made this research: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG9Ed7Kc4MY. My initial aim was it was retaliation attack for defending in Lave, but we got information they had no operations in our area. So we don't know what it was. We cant proof anything so I rather not point in any direction. You are welcome to present me your facts if you want to make research.
 
My understanding is that there is some credible evidence of Powerplay-like bots having been used.

As I'm not party to that evidence, I can't evaluate it myself, and instead rely on my trust for the person who told me.

Encourage whoever informed you to make the evidence public.

If botting does seem credible, Frontier may take action against it, and I'll certainly avoid having my CMDR aid factions that seem to be gaining influence illegitimately.
 
You are twitsting facts now here. Nobody from our pmf made that claim we got notified about it from 3rd party wfrom other people assisting us who had made this research: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG9Ed7Kc4MY. My initial aim was it was retaliation attack for defending in Lave, but we got information they had no operations in our area. So we don't know what it was. We cant proof anything so I rather not point in any direction. You are welcome to present me your facts if you want to make research.
Proving a negative is quite impossible, leaving the burden of proof on the party that made the claim of botting. If you think that party was serious, and believe that they are correct, then your best option is to have them come forward and state any evidence. Perhaps they are correct and others on here can help provide proof to present to Frontier.

Eagleboy is quite correct though. Far too many PMF's cry 'bot'. Now I'm not saying it's bots.... but it's totally bots.
 
My understanding is that there is some credible evidence of Powerplay-like bots having been used.

As I'm not party to that evidence, I can't evaluate it myself, and instead rely on my trust for the person who told me.

"It's a secret" isn't a convincing argument.

I'm just unsure if anyone considered it might be, players, playing the game, and having these effects.

Not entirely sure why bots are suspected.

Yep the system population is less than half a million one player could put it in lockdown in a couple of hours.
 
So...

Does this mean access to this system will be restricted?
I'm going to guess "No".

Does this mean the cost of goods and services in this system will increase significantly?
I'm going to guess "No".

Does this mean access to the stations in this system will be restricted in any way?
I'm going to guess "No".

Which leaves only one real question: Does it matter in any meaningful way who controls this, or any other system?
I'm going to guess "No".
 
Does it matter in any meaningful way who controls this, or any other system?

Depends on what the game is to the individuals in question.

For some people, the game is just numbers on a balance sheet. They probably won't care.

For others, whose banner plastered where, and the narrative described by in-game events, is the game.
 
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