General / Off-Topic Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill by 498 votes to 114

.... and thankfully it's a publicly owned resource (as the Scottish Government has refused attempts to get it to sell off Scottish Water).

Well, the article I linked showed Great Britain as net importer of water. Not sure if Scotland can make the loss up. Or can make it up without further infrastucture investments (you cannot simply change big infrastructure related things in a few weeks).
And Scottish water rights being publicly held and English/Welsh privately held is also a rather interesting topic.
The scottish government would try to get as much out of the deal as possible, access to "cheaper" sources from the mainland being blocked, that would put them into a quite favorable position. On the other hand due to the higher demand, prices for water in scottland might rise. Deregulation of those privately held companies in the south might mean a decline in water safety/service levels. Etc. Etc.

I'm glad they thought about all that beforehand. :D

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Maybe, maybe not - there may never be a real need to define the split.

However, back to water, fresh water is a valuable renewable natural resource and Scotland has plenty - it may become very profitable in the future.

It's most intriguing quality is, that it can not be easiely substituted or saved without huge investments into alternative infrastructure. Desalination might work for the industry - better water processing - better environmental protection etc. (we've been working on that over here for the last 3 decades).
Rising sea levels might pose a threat to the natural water reservoirs in coastal areas etc. - and looking at the US, they just passed that bill that coal industry can go back dumping their waste into rivers .. I mean .. c'mon.
 
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my view on those who voted against article 50....
they should all lose their jobs. Especially the ones who went against their constituents who won in there area and voted out...
my view on Scotland having another referendum. have it the result will be the same. they will vote to remain part of the UK!
I will put my money were it counts on a bett
 
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my view on those who voted against article 50....
they should all lose their jobs. Especially the ones who went against their constituents who won in there area and voted out...

Yes because they do not represent the will of the British people


my view on Scotland having another referendum. have it the result will be the same. they will vote to remain part of the UK!
I will put my money were it counts on a bett

Yes, many experts since the referendum, say that the Scotland will prefer to stay with the United Kingdom
 
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Robert Maynard

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my view on those who voted against article 50....
they should all lose their jobs. Especially the ones who went against their constituents who won in there area and voted out...
my view on Scotland having another referendum. have it the result will be the same. they will vote to remain part of the UK!
I will put my money were it counts on a bett

Those who voted according to what their constituencies voted have done what they were elected to do - those who didn't have chosen to ignore their electorate (which may have repercussions at the next General Election).

It would be interesting indeed to see the result of another Scottish Independence Referendum - indeed, the only Tory MP in Scotland admits that a second IndyRef is possible (but would be divisive - but he has to say that....).
 
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It would be interesting indeed to see the result of another Scottish Independence Referendum - indeed, the only Tory MP in Scotland admits that a second IndyRef is possible (but would be divisive - but he has to say that....).

It won't happen again. Scotland had their referendum. Besides Scotland without financial and other support from England would be a lot poorer and worse. Nicola Sturgeon is an ignorant career politician.
 
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Robert Maynard

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It won't happen again. Scotland had their referendum. Besides Scotland without financial and other support from England would be a lot poorer and worse. Nicola Sturgeon is an ignorant career politician.

According to some - it rather depends whose figures (and maps of territorial waters, based on UN rules) one looks at.
 

Yaffle

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It won't happen again. Scotland had their referendum. Besides Scotland without financial and other support from England would be a lot poorer and worse. Nicola Sturgeon is an ignorant career politician.

The UK will be a lot poorer and a lot worse as a result of Brexit. It was still voted for.

Many of Trump's policies will leave the US poorer and a lot worse. They were still voted for.

As for Scotland, I'm not so sure it's as dependent on the rUK at all.
 

Minonian

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:) There is a thing about love.
The second part i told many years ago.

You just can't give up on someone whom means the world to you. And this is love.

But also you must respect if she / he wants to go his own way, and live his life as he wants, even if it's means you can't be the part of it. If you love him you must let him go, because this is the best of him. And this is also love. this is probably the hardest thing what anyone can do, and hurts beyond words.
Edit; But nonetheless it must be done. Because if you cage him / her, you hurt him.


But! To force into someone your ways, or anything, or just do stupidly what he / she wants because you love him, and by doing so causing harm? This is truly love?
I don't think so!

Let him to harm himself is love? hard question! Then again? Can you force him?

Anyway. There is one thing what i'm sure about i can't salvage this situation.
 
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According to some - it rather depends whose figures (and maps of territorial waters, based on UN rules) one looks at.

I have Cosmo on ignore, but saw that nonsense when you replied. Even during the referendum campaign, the vote no lot admitted that an independent Scotland was entirely economically feasible, and would be a strong performer. Their argument wasn't that we couldn't, it was that we shouldn't (and that they wouldn't let us).
 
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