[BUG]Instant death on login at RES site

Soulkiller

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So I have gone to a RES extraction site. After realising it was a bad instance I pressed save and exit to main menu to quickly relog to reset the instance. At the moment I logged in my ship got instantly destroyed while spinning out of control. I am also opening the ticket to refund the lost 7m. Could it have been that I have spawned inside an asteroid? Game somehow messed up the spawning?
EDIT: I did have 1.6m bounty saved up at Alliance :( SO almost lost 7m
 
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Hawkmoon

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Soulkiller said:
So I have gone to a RES extraction site. After realising it was a bad instance I pressed save and exit to main menu to quickly relog to reset the instance. At the moment I logged in my ship got instantly destroyed while spinning out of control. I am also opening the ticket to refund the lost 5m. Luckily I didnt have any pending bounties. Could it have been that I have spawned inside an asteroid? Game somehow messed up the spawning?
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Logging out and in to improve your position is not really part of the game mechanics, if you are going to log out in an asteroid field then there is a risk to your ship when you log back in. I personally don't think a refund is in order.
 

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Hawkmoon said:
Logging out and in to improve your position is not really part of the game mechanics, if you are going to log out in an asteroid field then there is a risk to your ship when you log back in. I personally don't think a refund is in order.
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You know who's at fault if players are relogging to get better spawns? The game.
 

Soulkiller

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Hawkmoon said:
Logging out and in to improve your position is not really part of the game mechanics, if you are going to log out in an asteroid field then there is a risk to your ship when you log back in. I personally don't think a refund is in order.
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I dont quite understand your point. I logged out in a safe position. My ship was idle. Speed at 0. I log out and log back in and I die instantly. How is it not the games fault and how am I not eligible for a refund? Clearly I dont understand what you are trying to say.
 

Zplintz

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The asteroid fields are not static and you are deliberately forcing a new instance. If you log out anywhere where you might collide with something then you stand the chance of hitting something on reload.

Same as logging right next to a station. That station may have moved by the time you log back in (to the point in space that you logged out) and this can result in a collision.

If you are going to use an exploit (albeit one that FD aren't concerned about) then at least try and do it safely.
 
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Zplintz said:
The asteroid fields are not static and you are deliberately forcing a new instance. If you log out anywhere where you might collide with something then you stand the chance of hitting something on reload.

Same as logging right next to a station. That station may have moved by the time you log back in (to the point in space that you logged out) and this can result in a collision.
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This is nonsense though, I've had the game crash as I was launching and when I logged back in I was 10km from the station - it deliberately moves you out of harms way when you relog to avoid collisions. I'd be willing to bet he didn't collide with anything and is just a victim of the "Ship randomly explodes" bug.
 

spullara

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Soulkiller said:
So I have gone to a RES extraction site. After realising it was a bad instance I pressed save and exit to main menu to quickly relog to reset the instance. At the moment I logged in my ship got instantly destroyed while spinning out of control. I am also opening the ticket to refund the lost 7m. Could it have been that I have spawned inside an asteroid? Game somehow messed up the spawning?
EDIT: I did have 1.6m bounty saved up at Alliance :( SO almost lost 7m
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Any luck with this? Same thing happened to me. Mine was about 9.2m...
 

Eisen

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Soulkiller said:
I dont quite understand your point. I logged out in a safe position. My ship was idle. Speed at 0. I log out and log back in and I die instantly. How is it not the games fault and how am I not eligible for a refund? Clearly I dont understand what you are trying to say.
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Just imagine one thing: would you really leave your cockpit for a short toilet-break while in an asteroid field with a lot of rock swirling around your ship? Or to put it another way: you would stop on a highway to take a short nap, hoping that no other vehicle crashes into you? You wouldn't, you'd leave the highway to park your car safely.
That is the point. I'm sorry for your loss, but you have to be more careful.

Cheers,
Eisen
 

hawkenfox

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You are suppose to dock your ship. What do you suppose you park your ship in a spot with so much

rocks and pirates flying around ? It's simulated destruction for irresponsible parking. Lol.
 

DiddleDum

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Just logged into an destroyed ship message. Not too happy, since I was 18k ly from Sol, spending the last three weeks exploring. Parked in the middle of a planetary system - over 1 au from the star, and in the middle of nowhere. Not in an orbit line, and nowhere near a ringed system.

Ticket is created, but I'm thinking all they'll refund is my rebuy cost (which wasn't a big deal anyway). I'd be happy if they just plonked me back into the system I was in. Even if I lost my scan data, I could always start that again. I dread heading back to Lugh to start over.
 

Trip

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Zplintz said:
The asteroid fields are not static and you are deliberately forcing a new instance. If you log out anywhere where you might collide with something then you stand the chance of hitting something on reload.

Same as logging right next to a station. That station may have moved by the time you log back in (to the point in space that you logged out) and this can result in a collision.

If you are going to use an exploit (albeit one that FD aren't concerned about) then at least try and do it safely.
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This.
No bug, sorry for your loss. I never logout in a RES and if I have time will always return to a station first.
 

Crank Larson

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Whether to OP was sensible or not, this is very obviously a bug. If you park in an asteroid field and don't log out, then your ship will happily stay there for hours (and notice the asteroids don't move relative to the ship...). But magically, if you log out and back in, your ship can suddenly occupy the same space as an asteroid. This is just silly, and should be fixed. It should also be an easy fix... If the instance is regenerated with an asteroid where the ship is, the asteroid should be moved...
 

Arksun

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I think it is reasonable and fair to offer some protection against crashes and sudden loss of internet connection in this case, after all its already there for those in other situations like close to a star, you log back in and you're at a safe distance...
 

Evil

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This could be considered a collision bug, what should happen when a player logs in, is the game should just move the player into a new low space randomly in the system (which the game all ready does, if you reload over and over for a number of times). That would also stop people from reloading (not re entering) the RES instance to get better spawns, as they would need to fly back to the RES, which would take more time than just popping in an out of the instance.
 

who?

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Also happened to me. I'd just FAffed around smack into an asteroid. When I rebought and returned to the RES it was really quiet, so exited and rejoined, instant death. Two deaths in 5 minutes, after 0 deaths in the last few weeks.

I see it as my own fault. Now when I leave, I boost out of the "plane" of the asteroids / ring before exiting, and haven't had the same problem since. Maybe that fixes it, or maybe I've just been lucky, but for now I'm happy.
 
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