[Bug] Planet Surface Temps Hot as Stars - Breaks Immersion for Explorers

Not, perhaps, earthlike worlds around neutron stars? Or the fact that neutron stars are one of the best places to find ELWs and WWs?

Or ELW around black holes?
Or how about (full-sized) stars that are so cold that they are pitch black (which, of course, is a physical impossibility.)

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As physically impossible as it may be, at least it makes for a great visit for explorers, though...
 
Go to the first planet of the system CSI+46-20087.

It's a landable atmosphered planet with a day-side surface temperature of over 18000 K.

It's also beautiful, especially if you land on it approaching from the night side, with the star just above the horizon.
Will do, and thanks for the suggestion!


Out of all the stellar forge quirks this is the one that gets to you?

Not, perhaps, earthlike worlds around neutron stars? Or the fact that neutron stars are one of the best places to find ELWs and WWs?

Or ELW around black holes?
Oh I have a whole list of quirks. Just tipping my toes in the water with this one. 🤭🤭
Although admittedly, I haven't yet encountered any ELWs and WWs around neutron stars. Hmm, perhaps terraformed worlds around white dwarfs...
But yeah, it would certainly raise some eyebrows if you could land on such a planet and simply walk around.


its worth keeping in mind, FD only had the chance to reroll the stellar forge before release. After, they couldn't keep rerolling every time someone found an issue with it. Sure, maybe they could tweak temps on planets or something, but not a proper reroll to get rid of the really really silly stuff.
You know, I had a nagging suspicion that something like that was the case, and that's why I suggested an alternative, far less invasive solution in the bug report.
 
Or how about (full-sized) stars that are so cold that they are pitch black (which, of course, is a physical impossibility.)

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As physically impossible as it may be, at least it makes for a great visit for explorers, though...
There is a hint of deep red in that screenshot, so it ain't pitch black.

The coldest brown dwarfs are around room temperature, and therefore pretty darn close to black in visible light - but they nevertheless support deuterium fusion. Remember the temperature of the radiative surface doesn't have to be the same as the temperature in the region where fusion takes place. (That also applies to the temperature of atmospheres discussion up-thread - there is an important difference between heat and temperature and a very very thin atmosphere can have a very high temperature yet still carry almost no heat.)

Unsurprisingly we're finding more of these here infra-red-peak black bodies now JWST is there to find them via infra-red, and also confirming a few more suspects from WISE.

I realise these things like in your screenshot are more likely a Stellar Forge issue though - where is this one?

(Also, if you're looking up stuff about this part of stellar research on Wikipedia, be careful about the dates of articles, I just looked at a few at random out of the top 10 coldest stars and they're all well out of date)
 
The coldest brown dwarfs are around room temperature, and therefore pretty darn close to black in visible light - but they nevertheless support deuterium fusion. Remember the temperature of the radiative surface doesn't have to be the same as the temperature in the region where fusion takes place. (That also applies to the temperature of atmospheres discussion up-thread - there is an important difference between heat and temperature and a very very thin atmosphere can have a very high temperature yet still carry almost no heat.)
I'm no physicist, but it is my understanding that after a certain size a star has to have fusion happening inside or it will collapse under its own gravity. I don't remember what the maximum size is, but I would guess that somewhere between Jupiter and maybe about twice as massive, give or take. And, of course, once the fusion reaction is kickstarted, its strength is pretty directly correlated to the mass of the star, so the more massive the star, the hotter (which is why cold stars tend to be very small, much smaller than our Sun, and very hot stars tend to be gigantic.)

In this case the "black" star in the screenshot is listed to have 116 solar masses, so I doubt it's physically possible for it to be that cold (its surface temperature is listed as 31 kelvin). There may be relatively cold stars out there, but I would guess they are very small, much smaller than the Sun.

I realise these things like in your screenshot are more likely a Stellar Forge issue though - where is this one?
The screenshot is from the Phimbeau AA-A h76 system.

There's another famous black star in the Splojeia AA-A h19 system (in this case with a surface temperature of 113 kelvin), if you want to make a tour. :)
 
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