General / Off-Topic Building a wall

Orders of bricks, mortar and barbed wire is now under way. This is going to be so much fun! Everyone is very happy and we are singing and dancing while we work. Plenty of cheap Mexican workers too. It is a joint effort of humankind to get rid of the evil fake-media and religious globalist thiefs.
 
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Do you in any case mean Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? :D

Well the constitutional crisis was preprogrammed with Trump ... :p

Oops, you're right. I was too shocked to think straight.

You're right about the second line, but I didn't expect a branch of state to go full fascist right away. Of course the Department of Homeland Security even sounds like something from the Fascist states of the thirties.
 
Oops, you're right. I was too shocked to think straight.

You're right about the second line, but I didn't expect a branch of state to go full fascist right away. Of course the Department of Homeland Security even sounds like something from the Fascist states of the thirties.

You could have stopped it. But you never told me you wanted to.

Now I will show you the true meaning of power.
 
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Well.
So much for the Valued US Constitution.

Guess we will see if the Military holds True to their Oaths and Steps in soon. Not that I expect it to happen tough......
 
Well.
So much for the Valued US Constitution.

Guess we will see if the Military holds True to their Oaths and Steps in soon. Not that I expect it to happen tough......

There are still parliamentary ways to fix this. No need to resort to a coup.
 
There are still parliamentary ways to fix this. No need to resort to a coup.

I doubt the Parliament will Fix it.
Thats the Problem.

I fear this will be one out of two.
Either the US Constitution will be Ignored and ultimately abolished or rather changed into form to accept the new Fascistic Laws.
Or the Military will Step in and Fullfill their Oath to Defend the US Constitution.

Dont see any other Alternatives.
After all. All of this has happened in the Past already.
Parties unfortunately are Loyal and their Members will Vote for the Laws of the Leadership entirely regardless of what these Laws are and wether or not they agree to them.......
 
Grim. We'll see.

I'm not a huge fan of the US, but it's an extremely long running democracy which has managed a peaceful transfer of power every time. It would be sad to see it succumb to fascism, especially with such stupid means. No humiliating peace treaty and hyperinflation needed, just a rabble rousing narcissistic jerk with a twitter account and no sense of shame.
 
Grim. We'll see.

I'm not a huge fan of the US, but it's an extremely long running democracy which has managed a peaceful transfer of power every time. It would be sad to see it succumb to fascism, especially with such stupid means. No humiliating peace treaty and hyperinflation needed, just a rabble rousing narcissistic jerk with a twitter account and no sense of shame.

I am right here. Just tell me to stop it. ... Or are you leftliberals blind to that option? How can you choose to be blind to the solution to your own problems?

This.... Ladies and Gentlemen.... is exactly why the US have these two groups.

LEFTLIBERALS DO NOT WANT TO LISTEN SO THEY IGNORE THE SOLUTION... instead they are talking about coups and fascistic uprisings to quell the righties. They are the fascist and they have been all along. Trump is for peace and for the people by the people.

It is also called FAKING NEWS. By ignoring the truth and not listening to the people, leftliberals are CREATING a problem that DOES NOT EXIST to begin with.

The problem is in their head, as a shattering of their beliefs. It is a virtual problem, not a real one.

I bet they are gathering outside of Colonia as we speak, to grief us until they get their will. We must FIGHT them both in the Bubble and everywhere in the Galaxy. Freedom is not something you have, it is something you must fight for every day of every life. Freedom is lost with ease, and so hard to come by again. Stay together and do not ignore them as they ignore you, because knowing your opposition and communicating with them is half the victory.

Ponder this:
What would happen if Adepts LeftLiberal fascists took power in the US? Would they make another election? OR WOULD THEY PUT UP THEIR OWN DICTATOR AS PRESIDENT?
We all know what they would do.

edit: I am sorry if my opinion disturbs some people. I will stop now, as you wish. But I just want you to understand that silencing your opponent does not make your problem go away. You create a filter bubble where you and the likes are just reinforcing your own worries and problems. Talk to us, do not shut us out. We are all humans on this world together. Help Trump make this a better world. If he does it wrong, tell him, do not ignore him. But do it in a peaceful, non-left-fascistic manner.
 
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And there was me thinking he was not really going to build a wall, I thought it was election talk.

I mean if he builds a wall someone can just make holes in it, as it is too long to patrol and continually fix ?
 
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And there was me thinking he was not really going to build a wall, I thought it was election talk.

I mean if he builds a wall someone can just make holes in it, as it is too long to patrol and continually fix ?

Most immigrants that stay in the USA illegally use planes like civilized people. They let their work visas expire and disappear into the vastness. A wall literally does nothing but stop people too poor to purchase a plane ticket and with the most reason to find opportunity to escape poverty.

If you really want to stop illegal immigration, heavily regulate how visas are handled and tracked...which has already been done by the Obama administration leading to the biggest deportation of Mexicans in history.
 
I am right here. Just tell me to stop it. ... Or are you leftliberals blind to that option? How can you choose to be blind to the solution to your own problems?

This.... Ladies and Gentlemen.... is exactly why the US have these two groups.

LEFTLIBERALS DO NOT WANT TO LISTEN SO THEY IGNORE THE SOLUTION... instead they are talking about coups and fascistic uprisings to quell the righties. They are the fascist and they have been all along. Trump is for peace and for the people by the people.

It is also called FAKING NEWS. By ignoring the truth and not listening to the people, leftliberals are CREATING a problem that DOES NOT EXIST to begin with.

The problem is in their head, as a shattering of their beliefs. It is a virtual problem, not a real one.

I bet they are gathering outside of Colonia as we speak, to grief us until they get their will. We must FIGHT them both in the Bubble and everywhere in the Galaxy. Freedom is not something you have, it is something you must fight for every day of every life. Freedom is lost with ease, and so hard to come by again. Stay together and do not ignore them as they ignore you, because knowing your opposition and communicating with them is half the victory.

Ponder this:
What would happen if Adepts LeftLiberal fascists took power in the US? Would they make another election? OR WOULD THEY PUT UP THEIR OWN DICTATOR AS PRESIDENT?
We all know what they would do.

edit: I am sorry if my opinion disturbs some people. I will stop now, as you wish. But I just want you to understand that silencing your opponent does not make your problem go away. You create a filter bubble where you and the likes are just reinforcing your own worries and problems. Talk to us, do not shut us out. We are all humans on this world together. Help Trump make this a better world. If he does it wrong, tell him, do not ignore him. But do it in a peaceful, non-left-fascistic manner.

I would want Left Wing Radicals just as much as Trump in Power.

But if you mind remembering. The USA got an Constitution.
An Constitution which Government Officials are Required to make an Oath on to Honor and Defend it.

And Trump is Ignoring and Breaking this Constitution without even the slightest attempt to even hide it.

This Constitution and the Power of the Military and all the other Instances which are allowed to even take down the President if he Breaks it. Are the Defense System against turning into an Dictatorship.
These Restrains are what ensures the Continuation of Democracy and that the Power remains with the People.


It doesnt matter in the Slightest which Party puts up an Dictator.
An Dictator is an Dictator. And Trump is moving pretty fast in that Direction.
 
I would want Left Wing Radicals just as much as Trump in Power.

But if you mind remembering. The USA got an Constitution.
An Constitution which Government Officials are Required to make an Oath on to Honor and Defend it.

And Trump is Ignoring and Breaking this Constitution without even the slightest attempt to even hide it.

This Constitution and the Power of the Military and all the other Instances which are allowed to even take down the President if he Breaks it. Are the Defense System against turning into an Dictatorship.
These Restrains are what ensures the Continuation of Democracy and that the Power remains with the People.


It doesnt matter in the Slightest which Party puts up an Dictator.
An Dictator is an Dictator. And Trump is moving pretty fast in that Direction.

Absolutely right...this isn't a left or a right thing anymore. Trump is a dangerous and unpredictable person. He is so toxic that his aides are already leaking WH secrets and embarrassing moments (typically a lame duck session sort of activty) like a sieve. From @RoguePOTUSSTAFF
First tweet

Pres. Trump is already making waves at the office. Wants to be "the President who will be remembered as a King." His words, not ours.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 26, 2017

On who the (un)holy trinity is

VP Pence, Speaker Ryan, COS Priebus = unholy trinity. https://t.co/CEWKzuOTUi

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

On Trump

Pres. Trump doesn't quite understand the difference between being POTUS and being a business owner. Keeps asking "who says I can't?"

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 26, 2017

POTUS loved Kellyanne's alternative facts line. Said she was dumb for it, but loved the idea anyway because people would talk about it.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 26, 2017

The White House is "a little drab for what I'm used to" according to POTUS. Been going out of his way to inform folks.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 26, 2017

POTUS: Use external email accts for information control. Maintain an official acct with "filler" to "make it look good."

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 26, 2017

POTUS sowing real discord by being more interested in NYT than the work of being POTUS. Bannon encouraging him to irritate #UnholyTrinity .

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

POTUS fully overwhelmed after full week on the job. Things spilling over into out of office lives for everyone.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

POTUS fuming after judge order last night. Suggested having agents to "do it anyway" & ignore order. Preibus said to be at wits end.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

On conflict of interest

POTUS son-in-law tapped as advisor. Appears Kushner's assignment is to advise POTUS how govt can aid Trump Organization's profit margins.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

On Russia

VP Pence to sit in on POTUS/Putin phone call tomorrow. POTUS doesn't like idea, but gave in to pressure from #UnholyTrinity .

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 28, 2017

#UnholyTrinity insistence to monitor Putin call was due to concern POTUS hasn't told full story about Putin attempts at blackmail.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 28, 2017

After call, #UnholyTrinity do not seem to have had any fears allayed. POTUS behavior during call said to be suspicious. #POTUSindistress

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 28, 2017

#UnholyTrinity urging POTUS that if Putin is compromising him to allow them to help. POTUS continues to deny, despite firm intelligence.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 28, 2017

Bannon says to take POTUS at his word. Probably has more to do w/ his attempts to control WH over Priebus. Not believed to know anything.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 28, 2017

On immigration

POTUS fuming after judge order last night. Suggested having agents to "do it anyway" & ignore order. Preibus said to be at wits end.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

#UnholyTrinity frustrated with POTUS idea to screen visitors for websites they frequent, notiing that malicious actors would just lie.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

POTUS insists that if they don't confess sites, they'll be denied entry. Doesn't seem to recognize that there would be no way to know.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

Concern is that attempting a measure that is almost impos. to enforce will deepen public anger. POTUS believes people will "love it."

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

Attempts to get POTUS to work on policy failed. Retreats to residence, skulking over McCain/Lindsey announcement and public protests.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

Suspicion that Bannon urging POTUS to egg on protests, then call in National Guard to disperse, as demonstration of power. #resistpeacefully

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

On inauguration

POTUS asking around about people's Photoshop skills. Says inauguration photos need to be "touched up."

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

On the wall

POTUS strategy on wall tax is to hurt Mexican economy, force them to surrender and foot bill. He knows the tax will never pay for the wall.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

On vote fraud

POTUS disagreeing with #unholytrinity about vote fraud talk. They say it's losing battle, but POTUS says public needs to see he's popular.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

Tensions raw around the West Wing. Possibility that POTUS family members may have actually voted twice at his urging.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

POTUS demanding accuser to "put up or shut up," after top staffer suggests family vote fraud w/o any evidence. "This is mutiny."

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

POTUS calls for investigating voter fraud in states he lost actually an #UnholyTrinity plan. Results will aid "turnout control" efforts.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

On Obamacare

Strategy talk leading up to POTUS interview tonight has been weighing whether to publicly acknowledge that no Obamacare replacement planned.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 28, 2017

On staff

Everyone in the room knew POTUS was lying about 5 million illegals voting, but nobody dared to point it out. What have we done?

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 26, 2017

Real concern starting to emerge that POTUS not even acting as he believes best, just for spite. Ex: gutting EU data law because Obama.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 26, 2017

White House survival 101: DO NOT accuse POTUS without evidence. Even a bad POTUS is still a powerful POTUS.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

Overheard through locked door: "Don't they know I'm the f— President!?" POTUS displeased at resistance. #resist

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

COS Priebus said to be using appearance on MTP this morning to guide decision to stay or go. Positive panic by many at prospect of his resg.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 29, 2017

On rogues

This starting to get scary. Four of these messages in the inbox today. Not indications yet that POTUS is aware of this acct, but someone is. pic.twitter.com/mfihbghTVr

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

Here's a few…@alt_fda@AltNatParkSer @altUSEPA @RogueNASA @Alt_NIH@altNOAA
@AlternativeNWS@AltForestServ@AltNatParkSer@altusda

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 27, 2017

Took all day to safely verify, but a full scale #WH5thcolum is forming. Also a full scale crackdown by the brass. Still must stay isolated.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 28, 2017

Bannon apparently hunting for heretics. Confirmed, is aware of this acct. Actively trying to identify us. #UnholyTrinity may be losing grip.

— Rogue POTUS Staff (@RoguePOTUSStaff) January 28, 2017

These aren't left wing partisans, BTW. This is coming from Trump's staff...these people are either non-partisan professionals or people that helped him get elected. It is getting to the point where Republicans up for election in 2018 have to question whether they can still support him in the face of being blamed for not doing anything to curb or remove Trump. You might think Trump supporters are unwavering, but take it from someone who lives among a majority of Trump supporters...Trump didn't win by his core supporters, he won by people who were swayed late, by people who either didn't vote or voted for Obama before. The people to whom all the political adverts are aimed at...the constantly bewildered independent vote
 
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I would want Left Wing Radicals just as much as Trump in Power.

But if you mind remembering. The USA got an Constitution.
An Constitution which Government Officials are Required to make an Oath on to Honor and Defend it.

And Trump is Ignoring and Breaking this Constitution without even the slightest attempt to even hide it.

This Constitution and the Power of the Military and all the other Instances which are allowed to even take down the President if he Breaks it. Are the Defense System against turning into an Dictatorship.
These Restrains are what ensures the Continuation of Democracy and that the Power remains with the People.


It doesnt matter in the Slightest which Party puts up an Dictator.
An Dictator is an Dictator. And Trump is moving pretty fast in that Direction.

He just had me laughing at the "liberal fascists". :D I was hoping for a "cultural marxism" reference as well.
 
He just had me laughing at the "liberal fascists". :D I was hoping for a "cultural marxism" reference as well.

Honestly, with the way it was written, it looks more like performance art than a person taking an actual defensible position.
 

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So MR T seems to be set on building his wall

He's still adamant that Mexico are going to pay.

The question is how.

What about withholding foreign aid until the wall is complete?

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And Trump is Ignoring and Breaking this Constitution without even the slightest attempt to even hide it.

In what way, Sunleader? Are you referring to the wall?
 
What about withholding foreign aid until the wall is complete?

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In what way, Sunleader? Are you referring to the wall?

I think you mean until paid for, not complete? I think this was posed as a potential way to coerce Mexico into paying. I think Mexico would call this bluff...especially if the wall has already been funded by the taxpayers.

I think he is referring to the immigration ban which might be violating the constitution. Trump admin has already declared it would defy court order if it interferes with their agenda...so there is that too.
 
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