Building Graphics Card Profile in ED

[Hooplah]

Greetings,

When Elite Dangerous is started for the first time it creates a Building Graphics Card Profile for the current GPU and monitor setup. These settings are stored in the in-game Options/Graphics. It will also perform this when the GPU is changed or the graphics drivers are updated. Is there a way to manually force this by editing or removing graphics ini and/or xml files in the Frontier folders?

I purchased a new PC and used a temporary monitor to set it up, install ED and apps, move files from the old PC etc. Once complete I removed the old PC from service then connected the new PC to a newer wide screen gaming monitor. Launching ED starts the game correctly except that the game window displays for a second then disappears going back to the launcher and desktop. Clicking on the game window again displays for a second then disappears.

Running GeForce Experience I selected Optimize for ED and it set my current graphics from High to Ultra. Launching ED and I'm back to the same problem. The only way I could resolve this is to completely uninstall ED from the Frontier EDLaunch and AppData folders, download the launcher from my direct Frontier account and reinstall the game. Then running again for the first time ED creates a Building Graphics Card Profile. Doing this twice for both problems takes about 90 minutes having to load both Odyssey 4.0 and Legacy separately.

Now I wonder if I change settings in-game Options/Graphics going to Ultra will this happen again? Will I have to reinstall? Is it an Nvidia driver issue for specific graphic settings? If I could manually force a Building Graphics Card Profile this would resolve the problem in the future. Here is my hardware setup but it probably doesn't matter as Elite Dangerous works fine as long as it likes the graphics settings.

Maybe if I saved specific graphics files would work still removing them to test didn't work. The good news is that I have a bindings backup folder for Odyssey 4.0 and Horizons 4.0. The bad news is that Horizons Legacy doesn't use them. That's a discussion for another post.

Regards

UPDATE: Per CMDR Morbad deleting GPUWorkTable.xml in the elite-dangerous-odyssey-64 (or whatever you have) folder will accomplish this. Thanks!

ROG Strix Helios GX601 mid tower case
ASUS Prime Z690-P WIFI motherboard/chipset
Intel 24 core i9-13900KF 3.00GHz CPU
Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GPU
ASUS AMD Socket AM5 AIO liquid cooler
ASUS ROG Strix LC II Series CPU cooler
Kingston Fury Beast 6000Mhz DDR5 RAM (4X32GB)
4TB Kingston Fury Renegade M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD
2TB SATA III 7200rpm hard drive
Gigabyte 1000W power supply
Direct X Runtime v12.0 and Nvidia 536.67 drivers
Windows 11 Home

Acer Z35P 35" curved 1800R QHD 3440x1440 G-Sync VA monitor
Corsair SP2500 2.1 232 watts RMS speaker system.
Razer Lancerhead Tournament Edition mouse
Razer BlackWidow v3 Mechanical gaming keyboard
VKB Gladiator NXT Evo Space Combat Edition Premium - RH
VKB Gladiator NXT EVO Omni Throttle - LH
VKB GNX FSM-GA Switchboard Module
VKB GNX SEM Side Extension Module
Logitech C922 Pro Stream webcam
Samson G Track Pro desktop microphone

 

[martin77]

you dont need to reinstall or deinstall a full game for some minor problems!
Verifying the game files is a far better choice.
you can reinstall the graphic card driver or delete the shader cache with a programm like CCleaner

 

[Hooplah]

Actually I also tried verifying game files and it didn't work. I have Auslogics Boostspeed 13 for driver cache issues.

 

[ste234]

Im not sure what function you're referring to, perhaps the 'shader preparation on startup', but i can confirm changing the graphics settings shouldnt cause any issue requiring reinstalling. I've just switched mine without any troubles

 

[Hooplah]

Probably shaders as it is described as Building Graphics Card Profile then when running has arming phase, timing phase etc. If I could start it manually life would be better.

 

[Nephthys Vasudan]

Only time I've ever seen the "looooong" load process start is if the driver changed - or the game changed (IE: Update) - outside that.... its usually a few seconds.

Not sure changing GPU settings in prefs would trigger that...pretty sure it wouldn't unless you made a very large change.

 

[Morbad]

If I could start it manually life would be better.

Delete GPUWorkTable.xml.

 

[Hooplah]

Delete GPUWorkTable.xml.

Thank you! This worked restarting the Building Graphics Card Profile then created a new GPUWorkTable.xml. As I tested this on ED when the graphics are working correctly it didn't ask if I wanted to apply the settings to the game. In the future when they are not working we'll see if this resolves the problem. I can add this solution to my arsenal of work arounds when Elite Dangerous doesn't want to play nice!

Next in Windows 11/10 the User Account Control (UAC) always asks, "Do you want this app to make changes to your device?" when starting ED. It is a slight annoyance but there are ways to turn this off if desired.

Regards

Disable User Account Control

 

[metatheurgist]

Isn't there a setting to build it each time?

 

[Hooplah]

Isn't there a setting to build it each time?

Not that I could find nor did an Internet search come up with anything.

Regards

 

[metatheurgist]

This not work?

 

[dm06]

Nice pc configuration, read this as a poem.
Two notes though:
1. you forgot to mention RAM frequency
2. VA panels are shacks for gaming, especially for games where dark background prevails, search internets for "black smearing".

 

[Morbad]

This not work?
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That setting will turn off shader preparation entirely, but even with it on, it won't do the full regeneration every time if it's already been done on that install and driver.

2. VA panels are shacks for gaming, especially for games where dark background prevails, search internets for "black smearing".

This isn't true of all VA panels, and, due to the high contrast ratios, I've found even relatively slow VA panels to be good for games with a lot of black backgrounds, if one can eliminate black crush. It's generally inverse ghosting across grey or blue backgrounds backgrounds that is most problematic on older VA panels.

The Acer Z35P is a bit old at this point and has some issues with the 0-20% transition times, but that's the only area too slow to do justice to the 120Hz refresh rate and the overshoot is low:

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If the choice was between 2-3x the contrast at the cost of slow 0-20% pixel response times, I'd take it over a similarly priced IPS panel. Indeed, I did, more than once, before panels that didn't have to compromise either showed up around 2020.

 

[Schmack]

How do you like that 4090?

I just picked up the Lenovo Legion with the 4080. Haven't had much time to play with it yet and didn't want to drop the extra coin for the better card.

 

[Hooplah]

...The Acer Z35P is a bit old at this point and has some issues with the 0-20% transition times, but that's the only area too slow to do justice to the 120Hz refresh rate and the overshoot is low:

If the choice was between 2-3x the contrast at the cost of slow 0-20% pixel response times, I'd take it over a similarly priced IPS panel. Indeed, I did, more than once, before panels that didn't have to compromise either showed up around 2020.

Yes, getting dated the Acer Predator Z35P bmiphz 35" Quad HD IPS 3440 x 1440 100Hz 120Hz OC has served me and Elite Dangerous very well for 7 years. Next I'm liking 3840 x 1600 adding another 160 pixels in height. It makes sense for all around computing when not playing games. For me Elite Dangerous looks fine with a 21:9 aspect ratio showing some moderate curving on the sides. I would never play it with a 32:9 aspect ratio offered by 5120x1440 monitors.

For more practical use on my wishlist...
MSI MEG381CQR Plus 38" UWQHD+ 3840 x 1600 IPS 175Hz 1.0ms G-Sync Ultimate HDR 600

For the absurd...The Samsung announced the Odyssey OLED G9 57" 7680 x 2160 (two 4Ks) 240hz at the CES2023 show so awaiting specs and pricing.

UPDATE: I went with the MSI MEG381COR. Desktop items are the same size as the Acer Z35P just added real estate. A 21:9 aspect ratio monitor in Elite Dangerous both with full screen borderless look the same with the MSI a little bigger. Playing in 2560x1440 I see more of the 3rd party websites on the sides. But now I can play at 2560x1600 and when pitching up the scanner is fully visible instead of being cutoff with 1440. Cool.

Whenever I activate G-Sync or overclocking to 175hz the contrast gets extremely dark and bright making the settings unusable for basic PC use. A word document can blind me! Going into Elite Dangerous the graphics are many times more vibrant than I have seen before. I get movie anamorphic blue reflections on the bright thrusters of a ship flying away from me. So...G-sync and overclocking on when playing games then off when not playing them. Back to monitor school 101 to figure out how they work in 2023.

Regards

 

[Hooplah]

How do you like that 4090?

I just picked up the Lenovo Legion with the 4080. Haven't had much time to play with it yet and didn't want to drop the extra coin for the better card.

Welcome to advanced ray tracing! With the 4090 it is too early to tell other than audio/video apps pretty much open instantly which is really about the CPU. Elite Dangerous isn't worthy of running a 4000 series GPU and I haven't hooked up the H.O.S.A.S to X-Plane 12 to take off and look around.

Regards

 

[Morbad]

Elite Dangerous isn't worthy of running a 4000 series GPU

An RTX 4090 does provide the surplus performance to dramatically improve texture and shadow map resolutions while running enough supersampling for the edge aliasing to only look plain bad, rather than disgustingly bad.

 

[Pville_Piper]

Greetings,

When Elite Dangerous is started for the first time it creates a Building Graphics Card Profile for the current GPU and monitor setup. These settings are stored in the in-game Options/Graphics. It will also perform this when the GPU is changed or the graphics drivers are updated. Is there a way to manually force this by editing or removing graphics ini and/or xml files in the Frontier folders?

I purchased a new PC and used a temporary monitor to set it up, install ED and apps, move files from the old PC etc. Once complete I removed the old PC from service then connected the new PC to a newer wide screen gaming monitor. Launching ED starts the game correctly except that the game window displays for a second then disappears going back to the launcher and desktop. Clicking on the game window again displays for a second then disappears.

Running GeForce Experience I selected Optimize for ED and it set my current graphics from High to Ultra. Launching ED and I'm back to the same problem. The only way I could resolve this is to completely uninstall ED from the Frontier EDLaunch and AppData folders, download the launcher from my direct Frontier account and reinstall the game. Then running again for the first time ED creates a Building Graphics Card Profile. Doing this twice for both problems takes about 90 minutes having to load both Odyssey 4.0 and Legacy separately.

Now I wonder if I change settings in-game Options/Graphics going to Ultra will this happen again? Will I have to reinstall? Is it an Nvidia driver issue for specific graphic settings? If I could manually force a Building Graphics Card Profile this would resolve the problem in the future. Here is my hardware setup but it probably doesn't matter as Elite Dangerous works fine as long as it likes the graphics settings.

Maybe if I saved specific graphics files would work still removing them to test didn't work. The good news is that I have a bindings backup folder for Odyssey 4.0 and Horizons 4.0. The bad news is that Horizons Legacy doesn't use them. That's a discussion for another post.

Regards

UPDATE: Per CMDR Morbad deleting GPUWorkTable.xml in the elite-dangerous-odyssey-64 (or whatever you have) folder will accomplish this. Thanks!

ROG Strix Helios GX601 mid tower case
ASUS Prime Z690-P WIFI motherboard/chipset
Intel 24 core i9-13900KF 3.00GHz CPU
Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GPU
ASUS AMD Socket AM5 AIO liquid cooler
ASUS ROG Strix LC II Series CPU cooler
Kingston Fury Beast 6000Mhz DDR5 RAM (4X32GB)
4TB Kingston Fury Renegade M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD
2TB SATA III 7200rpm hard drive
Gigabyte 1000W power supply
Direct X Runtime v12.0 and Nvidia 536.67 drivers
Windows 11 Home

Acer Predator Z35P 35" curved 1800R QHD 3440x1440 G-Sync VA monitor
Razer Lancerhead Tournament Edition mouse
Razer BlackWidow v3 Mechanical gaming keyboard
VKB Gladiator NXT Evo Space Combat Edition Premium - RH
VKB Gladiator NXT EVO Omni Throttle - LH
VKB GNX FSM-GA Switchboard Module
VKB GNX SEM Side Extension Module
Logitech C922 Pro Stream webcam
Samson G Track Pro desktop microphone

Overkill or VR? Nice specs... Pictures or it didn't happen!

 

[Hooplah]

Overkill or VR? Nice specs... Pictures or it didn't happen!

No VR as my eyes aren't good enough. Overkill for some systems is normal for this one. The aluminum, steel, tempered glass case is huge weighing 18kg (40lbs) without anything installed in it. This won't be going to a LAN party.

Going to tech discussion? My Windows 7 PC with Geforce 1660Ti wouldn't work with the latest Nvidia drivers and had to reinstall the previous ones. The Windows 11 PC with the GeForce RTX 4090 works fine with the latest drivers. Wondering if it is OS, drivers or hardware issues. Unleashed the FPS can hit 470 FPS in space! I limit it to 144 FPS in-game as I don't need anymore playing ED. With lots of screen activity it never drops below 120 FPS while the PC runs cooler. Playing Cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing and an Elite II Xbox controller this system seems idiling waiting for a real challenge.

Elite Dangerous Odyssey welcome to Windows 11

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Here is the final build if anyone is interested.

ROG Strix Helios GX601 mid tower case
ASUS Prime Z690-P WIFI motherboard/chipset
Intel 24 core i9-13900KF 3.00GHz CPU
Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GPU
ASUS AMD Socket AM5 AIO liquid cooler
ASUS ROG Strix LC II Series CPU cooler
Kingston Fury BVeast 6000Mhz DDR5 RAM (4X32GB)
4TB Kingston Fury Renegade M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD (C: drive OS, primary apps)
2Tb Kingston Fury Renegade M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD (D: drive games)
WD Black 8TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" hard drive (E: drive audio/video production)
2TB SATA 7200rpm hard drive (F: drive backup/restore/support files)
Dilwe 7 Port PCIe USB 3.2 expansion card
Gigabyte 1000W power supply
Direct X Runtime v12.0 and Nvidia 536.99 drivers
Windows 11 Home

MSI MEG381CQR Plus 38" UWQHD+ 3840 x 1600 IPS 175hz 1.0ms G-Sync Ultimate HDR 600 monitor
Corsair SP2500 2.1 232 watts RMS speaker system
Razer Lancerhead Tournament Edition mouse
Razer BlackWidow v3 mechanical gaming keyboard
Microsoft Bluetooth Elite Series 2 Xbox controller (for games where a HOTAS just won't do)
VKB Gladiator NXT Evo Space Combat Edition Premium - RH
VKB Gladiator NXT EVO Omni Throttle - LH
VKB GNX FSM-GA Switchboard Module
VKB GNX SEM Side Extension Module
Logitech C922 Pro Stream webCam
Samson G Track Pro desktop microphone

Epson ET-8550 all-in-one Wireless Ethernet photo quality printer (pro photo prints)
Lexar Pro LWR300U USB 3.0 SD/Compact Flash card reader (xfer pro A/V files to the PC)
Haooyun USB 3.0 External CD/DVD Read/Write drive (xfer CD/DVD files to the PC)
MAIWO Dual Bay USB 3.0 SATA III 2.5/3.5 hard drive docking station (xfer files from older PC hard drives)

 

[Pville_Piper]

No VR as my eyes aren't good enough. Overkill for some sysems is normal for this one. The aluminum, steel, tempered glass case is huge weighing 18kg (40lbs) without anything installed in it. This won't be going to a LAN party.

Going to tech discussion? Alas I cannot find Windows 11 drivers for my Canon Pro 9000 Mark II photo graphic printer. Canon say it is Win 11 compatible but then their Win 10 drivers don't work. May have to design HOTAS templates on the PC, move to a Win 7 laptop then print on the Canon printer. Add it to the work arounds for Elite Dangerous.

Before...setup and apps install with an ASUS 27" monitor
View attachment 363364
After...with an Acer 35" monitor
View attachment 363365

Mine either, don't want to replace the glass!