[C&P] 1 extreme.. to another

I would add your concerns to the C&P thread as well though, I too have suggested a toning down of friendly fire and make it a payable fine.
 
Ah yes, a subject where a select group of elitist so-and-so's show up and chastise the person complaining about the screwed up system (that will get changed soon).

@OP, Yes, the problem isn't the fact that you got a stupid//assinine assault bounty, the "problem" is that you can't pay your fines at the issuing factions courthouse. This massive inconvenience started out as an edge case, but has turned out to bite just about everyone in the tush. FDev is already going to change the system in a coming update to allow minor bounties to be paid at the stations where the infractions occurred, which is the way it should have been from the beginning.
 
Also interstellar factors are criminals using bribes and whatever to local corrupt law enforcement. They can't operate in medium and high security systems because there is much less corrupt law enforcement there checking that bounties were really paid off instead of taking the persons word for it. In terms of gameplay it also makes sense as it's there to promote crime in these systems more often and deter crime in the other systems.

Outrageous!

IF are a legimate business providing essential services to the community of the Pilots Federation!

Slandering an elite team of lawyers and legal specialists as criminals and corrupt law enforcement is simply baseless gossip!
 
Regardless of whether i need to 'get gud' or practice some trigger control, a 400Cr bounty is shockingly bad for my game time and my assumption is, it's probably not ideal for others.
If i destroyed the ship with friendly fire, i'd have no complaint to make, a bounty for murder justifies what happened, regardless of accidental or not. Friendly fire should in my opinion result in a fine for "misconduct in battle" or something along them lines. these Fines could mature into Bounties after a couple of weeks or something if left unpaid.

I thought that these smaller bounties could be paid off in the local system (so long as you have no notoriety) via anonymous access. Has that not been implemented yet? I thought it was in the last update, but it could be in the next one instead. Check the C&P feedback forum, though, as I'm sure this is a change that is planned.
 
I thought that these smaller bounties could be paid off in the local system (so long as you have no notoriety) via anonymous access. Has that not been implemented yet? I thought it was in the last update, but it could be in the next one instead. Check the C&P feedback forum, though, as I'm sure this is a change that is planned.

A "fine" can be, but these are "bounty" issues. Bounties can not currently be paid at the issuing powers stations, no matter if it's a 200Cr for scratching someones paint.
 
Looks like it's an intended feature, rather than one that already exists:

Arguments can be made for and against this stance. Whilst the current system does technically work, we’re considering the following amendment, which we see as a potential improvement:
1. Bounties that do not include the crime of murder can always be paid off at security contacts.
2. Bounties that include the crime of murder can only be cleared using Interstellar Factors.
 
it's ludicrous that i can be allied and wanted for friendly fire

Its ludicrous that I have to make a short 5 minute detour and pay a fine that's probably 0.000004% of the value of my ship...after i've just hit a completely innocent Spacecraft with military grade weapons ???
 
Its ludicrous that I have to make a short 5 minute detour and pay a fine that's probably 0.000004% of the value of my ship...after i've just hit a completely innocent Spacecraft with military grade weapons ???

The last time it happened to me, the "completely innocent Spacecraft" was a pirate lord's Cutter (wing assassination mission target). I got a bounty on my head for scratching its megashield once with the 2 APAs of my Vulture. My scan proving that he was wanted finished 1 second later.
 
The last time it happened to me, the "completely innocent Spacecraft" was a pirate lord's Cutter (wing assassination mission target). I got a bounty on my head for scratching its megashield once with the 2 APAs of my Vulture. My scan proving that he was wanted finished 1 second later.

That's another thing that is changing (if it hasn't already). You won't get a bounty for attacking a wanted ship, even if your scan hasn't finished.
 
The last time it happened to me, the "completely innocent Spacecraft" was a pirate lord's Cutter (wing assassination mission target). I got a bounty on my head for scratching its megashield once with the 2 APAs of my Vulture. My scan proving that he was wanted finished 1 second later.

No longer a problem as of 3.0.3
 
Outrageous!

IF are a legimate business providing essential services to the community of the Pilots Federation!

Slandering an elite team of lawyers and legal specialists as criminals and corrupt law enforcement is simply baseless gossip!

My apologies, I just got the internal audit report back from my local interstellar factors. They said it's clean and that they assessed every transaction, retainer, personal donation, special discount and miscellaneous outgoing as well as investigating all agents fees, political contributions and even looked into every brown paper envelope! :)

https://youtu.be/F_vPvLlcUqM?t=865
 
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My apologies, I just got the internal audit report back from my local interstellar factors. They said it's clean and that they assessed every transaction, retainer, personal donation, special discount and miscellaneous outgoing as well as investigating all agents fees, political contributions and even looked into every brown paper envelope! :)

Ah, that's more like the selfless service we all know and love :)

Please do let me know if you need an IF branch opening up in your locale - demand is high in these times!

It happened well after 3.0.3 IIRC.
I read somewhere that the "never shoot before scan" rule was going to change, that was why I shot at him unscanned in the first place. But maybe it's time to test it again.

It happened in 3.0.3

Check the patch notes.
 
I think that founders world ( jameson) should have all options for the game. So I.F, the one to collect all bounty vouchers (cant remember the name right now) lol. Mat traders, etc etc. That way if your elite you know for sure one place has all. And if you dont have elite. Something to strive for.
 
What still gets me is that bounty hunters and police forces will murder you for a 300cr bounty. That wouldn't even pay for the ammo to kill me most times.
 
You say trigger discipline?

No I said there are ELEMENTS of trigger discipline.

The PROBLEM the OP had is Tunnel Vision. They were too focused on the target to the point they failed to notice both A) The target orienting for an evasive boost and B) System Authority lining up on the other side directly in the path of the shot.

If he hadn't Tunnel Visioned, trigger discipline wouldn't even have been a factor since he would have realized the situation and the wild shot wouldn't even have happened.

And now a Public Service Announcement from some friends of mine.

[video=youtube;reIUf3552_Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reIUf3552_Q[/video]

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I'd like to actually see you in an entire session, since you have implied that you are beyond reproach with your sanctimonious tone! Selective memory, I suspect!

It's always been funny to me how some people will hop on their high horses and talk down to others on this forum while claiming they're some kind of uber skilled combat pilot.

No. I just have 18 months of solid "nothing but REZ BH" combat under my belt. I've made many mistakes under all iterations of the C&P system. I'm certainly not the top 1% of all combat pilots but I've had months to make mistakes and refine my ability.

In short. I'm the same as the OP in that I felt the need to practice and did so. The difference between us is that I didn't let myself get beaten by the C&P. Not only did I learn how to fight effectively as part of a group, I learned how to deal with the consequences of being on the wrong side of the law and how to fix it. I learned two skills for the price of one.

You can sit there and berate me for my long winded instruction all you want. Or you can take it to task and see the results for yourself.
 
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