Can we turn off seeing Commander Ship Names..?

[Iori]

There is already an option that shield you from the real people, its called "solo mode". Not only disables the ship names, but also the commander names too.

 

[Infidel Deity]

But OP is saying he wants a tickbox to enable/disable cmdr names.

And you are saying "look at the example of a forum avatar", and then you paint a picture where you can't kick people off the forums because of their avatar.

But there's a tickbox for forum avatars, so the correct solution is what OP wants.

So why are you going on about kicking people off the forum in your example? OP hasn't asked for that, he wants a tickbox!


Here from the first post :

Try again. [yesnod]

 

[bitstorm]

Try again. [yesnod]

Then I am confused, what is your point then?

That forum avatars are ok and people should not try to have others banned for them?

 

[Itaki]

Elite: Maple Story.

Sure, we can untick a ship name box, but we can't really untick the other inappropriateness in this game. Maybe the rating of the game should be higher and kids just shouldn't watch Mom or Dad play it.

 

[SeeZaa]

Let's say; for the fun of the example....
I don't like your avatar, it should be banned from from these forums, because it, and YOU with it, promotes sexual assault and murder.
It depicts a helmet used in war; and in all wars; sexual assault and murder follows.
Killing of children and so on.
And by using it as an avatar, you are manipulating younger players and forum users to sexually assault and murder.

Or....? [squeeeee]
If I actually claimed this about your avatar, I would be quite deranged - don't you think?

Only fear can render words dangerous or bad.
Words have no power, unless the receiver gives it powers
And why does such and such words have a so powerful place in your mind?
All we have to do is find out, in ourselves, where that fear derives from. [yesnod]

that's an interesting answer to a simple question, but ok, i'll bite.

in the 1st instance you have created an extreme example of sensitivity which is, for this venue, a very naive and immature construct, and here's why.. you are making the assumption, that anyone who uses this forum either, doesn't know its Elite Dangerous.. a game that has warring factions in space, battles for contested systems, and a primary focus on shooting at others.. or, that any person who may be sensitive to, or hold the feelings that your example portrays, have not checked the following..

Frontiers Code of Conduct for Elite Dangerous

and

Frontiers PEGI 7 rating for Elite Dangerous

the second part.. do you really not understand the influence and weight of ideas, and in particular, the 'words' used to express them?

words have given reason to all the ideas men have fought, killed, and died for, over the ages.. the good and the bad! that is in essence the very foundation of why freedom of speech is so important and exists in western civilisation.

Freedom of speech is a mechanism for The People, to manage the political climate of their country, and maintain those freedoms that have been hard fought for. As there are always several sides in any political discourse, the ability for a person to freely, and openly, take part in that discourse, with impunity, can be the difference between becoming an oppressive, or totalitarian system, and protecting against such.

so yeah, there is a rational reason to fear certain words, and the dialogue and context within which they are used, either to promote, or perpetuate, certain ideas.. not because those ideas appeal to you, but because you understand that those ideas appeal to others.

Freedom of speech only exists within the political sphere, it does not give any individual the right to misconduct, it does not allow the individual the right to force, or dictate their views, ideologies or attitudes on anyone (especially minors) and it does not allow for an individual to circumvent, or break, any rules to which they are bound, from membership to a private institution, organisation or community.

but yeah, as bitstorm says, if i did find something offensive in avatars, i would have the option to tick a box, in the case of finding something clearly against the forum rules, i would report it to a mod.

aside from that, this isnt what the OP is about, so lets leave that where it is

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But OP is saying he wants a tickbox to enable/disable cmdr names. *i know you mean ship names*

 

[SeeZaa]

There is already an option that shield you from the real people, its called "solo mode". Not only disables the ship names, but also the commander names too.

so what you are saying is, a distaste for sexual innuendo and masked swearing, in a family game setting, should exclude those players from using the new components of 2.3? and that to be a real person means having no problem with sexual innuendo and masked swearing in a family game?

that is pretty absurd, especially when all i am suggesting is a filter option.. a filter option! you know, to save having to ignore and/or report players for being silly.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

So there might be some ship names that you don't want to see? How do you cope in real life? People wearing T-shirts with all sorts of slogans and profanity, graffiti on walls, lyrics in songs you hear on the radio/stream, TV shows with content you don't like? Do you walk around looking at the ground in case you see something that you don't want to?

I think you've just got to ignore them and accept that some 'iffy' names will get through.

Or as op said just turn em off.... Where is the harm in that? (Not that i woukd bother)

 

[Infidel Deity]

that's an interesting answer to a simple question, but ok, i'll bite.

in the 1st instance you have created an extreme example of sensitivity which is, for this venue, a very naive and immature construct, and here's why.. you are making the assumption, that anyone who uses this forum either, doesn't know its Elite Dangerous.. a game that has warring factions in space, battles for contested systems, and a primary focus on shooting at others.. or, that any person who may be sensitive to, or hold the feelings that your example portrays, have not checked the following..

Frontiers Code of Conduct for Elite Dangerous

and

Frontiers PEGI 7 rating for Elite Dangerous

the second part.. do you really not understand the influence and weight of ideas, and in particular, the 'words' used to express them?

words have given reason to all the ideas men have fought, killed, and died for, over the ages.. the good and the bad! that is in essence the very foundation of why freedom of speech is so important and exists in western civilisation.

Freedom of speech is a mechanism for The People, to manage the political climate of their country, and maintain those freedoms that have been hard fought for. As there are always several sides in any political discourse, the ability for a person to freely, and openly, take part in that discourse, with impunity, can be the difference between becoming an oppressive, or totalitarian system, and protecting against such.

so yeah, there is a rational reason to fear certain words, and the dialogue and context within which they are used, either to promote, or perpetuate, certain ideas.. not because those ideas appeal to you, but because you understand that those ideas appeal to others.

Freedom of speech only exists within the political sphere, it does not give any individual the right to misconduct, it does not allow the individual the right to force, or dictate their views, ideologies or attitudes on anyone (especially minors) and it does not allow for an individual to circumvent, or break, any rules to which they are bound, from membership to a private institution, organisation or community.

but yeah, as bitstorm says, if i did find something offensive in avatars, i would have the option to tick a box, in the case of finding something clearly against the forum rules, i would report it to a mod.

aside from that, this isnt what the OP is about, so lets leave that where it is

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So...
You did not really understand what I wrote?

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Then I am confused, what is your point then?

That forum avatars are ok and people should not try to have others banned for them?

Start with the first post, of mine, that SeeZzy responded to. [yesnod]

 

[Iori]

I would support this, but only if its in exchange for removing all rules regarding ship naming.

What I mean is that I would like to name my ship whatever I'd like to without worrying about getting banned. If the trade off is the ability for people to hide other ship names, I'd be ok with it.

 

[Alvatore]

SeeZaa, how do you cope with having that broomstick lodged so far up there like it is?

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

I would support this, but only if its in exchange for removing all rules regarding ship naming.

What I mean is that I would like to name my ship whatever I'd like to without worrying about getting banned. If the trade off is the ability for people to hide other ship names, I'd be ok with it.

i for one would vote against this (not that its a democracy)

i would like to see ship names ideally, and do not intend to turn them off... however equally i would rather not see "stupid names"

when we submitted our npc kickstarter names there were strict rules regarding them. no leetspeak, no swearing (though FD were pretty relaxed on that, i have seen a few which were definitely bordering on it) and a bunch of other things.

realistically FD wont have the time to do this for ship names.... but in an ideal world i personally would see such a filter as the ideal.

at the very least the option to "filter stupid names" as a toggle (no being entirely serious)

 

[ethelred]

You can't filter stupid people in real life, so I would be against filtering ship names apart from the usual T&Cs (racist, sexist, -ists etc).

However, if you do choose the same name as someone else then they should add a number to the end, as in Enterprise 101 etc or more likely Enterprise NCC 1701-D 60.

If we ever get persistent ships allowing second hand sales etc, then it would be great to have an semi-random registration system of alphanumeric calculators too. #i'mdreaming

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

You can't filter stupid people in real life, so I would be against filtering ship names apart from the usual T&Cs (racist, sexist, -ists etc).

fortunately in real life in maritime naming, (and i am sure if you look hard enough you will find an exception) but generally boat names are actually rather pleasant.

of course you get 1970's "carry on" double entendre names with many boats, but i have yet to see l33t speak boat names myself. when i do, i shall die a little bit inside

PS that said................ "Boaty Mc Boat Face" should never have been scrapped. Stupid name perhaps, but when you are daft enough to put something out for a vote without lots of smallprint , well you get what you deserve (some say the same about brexit)

 

[wstephenson]

Serious proposal time - banish them to the left UI panel alongside bounty amount, and send our own ship name to the right UI panel.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Rethink-ship-name-placement-UI-UX-in-cockpit

I love ship naming and don't really care how silly people get with them unless it's offensive, abhorrent or illegal, but I don't need to see them in my face while I'm flying the ship (as long as I'm not on a mission to find the ISS Needle-in-a-Haystack).

 

[Infidel Deity]

PS that said................ "Boaty Mc Boat Face" should never have been scrapped. Stupid name perhaps, but when you are daft enough to put something out for a vote without lots of smallprint , well you get what you deserve (some say the same about brexit)

Maybe it made someone die a little bit inside?