Capybara Species Enrichment is a Tad Overkill

Capybaras in Planet Zoo support species enrichment with a whopping 5 other animals, being the following:
  • Baird's Tapir
  • Colombian White-faced Capuchin
  • Galapagos Giant Tortoise
  • Giant Anteater
  • Llama
This seems like the developers just looked at every pre-existing South American herbivore and slapped on capybara enrichment. It doesn't really make sense that the tortoise and llama in particular (Baird's tapir too since that's mostly a Central American species) get enrichment since their ranges wouldn't overlap at all.

Despite this oddity, I won't advocate for it to be changed. I just wanted to see if others found this extreme leniency rather odd too.
 
The llama I really understand because there were people on the forums and on Reddit who wanted the capybara to have a bonus with the llama
 
I get why they did it, given the capybara's memetic agreeableness. Seems like they're just actively trying to encourage it to be used in any interspecies combination that remotely makes sense, just for the fun of it. The llama and tortoise in particular did stand out to me as not really following Frontier's usual format of animals that would have actual overlapping ranges, though.
 
The whole concept is just a bit wonky.
Until now Frontier usually picks species living in the same areas, but in captivity that shouldn't really matter to whatever the species enrich each other or not. It is not like the animals would know.

I have been to many zoos which holds meerkats and African spurred tortoise together, even though they comes from different ends of Africa. Yet you often see a meerkat sitting on top of the tortoise, which is enriching to some degree.
 
I have been to many zoos which holds meerkats and African spurred tortoise together, even though they comes from different ends of Africa. Yet you often see a meerkat sitting on top of the tortoise, which is enriching to some degree.
Now thinking about it, interspecific behavioral animations would be amazing. At least for species that enrich each other. A whole new layer of immersion.
 
This isn't really anything new - like the Thomson's gazelle and springbok having a bonus despite not sharing any range and the two ruffed lemurs despite the fact they can easily hybridise. I have said before that I find the whole idea of a bonus for interspecies bonuses to be a bit odd - to my mind, a bonus implies that animals are happier mixed with another species than not, which I really don't think is the case. Some of the mixed exhibits that are given bonuses in this game have ended very badly in real life.

I think it would have been better for a broader 'sympatric species' tag showing which species naturally live together but that there wasn't a bonus for mixing species. I suppose that would be too much to change now though.
 
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It doesn't really make sense that the tortoise and llama in particular (Baird's tapir too since that's mostly a Central American species) get enrichment since their ranges wouldn't overlap at all.
Animals without overlapping ranges are exhibited together often, both in the game and in real zoos. I've seen Baird's Tapirs, Rheas, and even (supposedly -- I've never seen it, only the sign) a Capybara exhibited together, as well as Babirusas and Asian Small-Clawed Otters, and I've seen photos of much weirder combinations. And even in-game, we have things like the Indian Elephant (only found in mainland Asia) and Proboscis Monkey (only found on Borneo -- though admittedly, it would interact with other elephant subspecies), plus the Southern White Rhino and the Thomson's Gazelle. Though this is a bit of an oddball choice, there's a clear precedent.
 
I get that zoos IRL don't abide by natural overlap. But the gameplay mechanic for PZ clearly did have that in mind up until the capybara. You can already house animals like cassowaries and pygmy hippos together just fine. They just don't get enrichment from doing so.

I suspect that the elephant-proboscis monkey case is the former being a stand-in for Bornean elephants, while the rhino-tommie case is just the devs copy-pasting the species enrichment from another savannah animal and overlooking the range gap. Here the capybara's species enrichment is very deliberately chosen to be every remotely South American herbivore already in PZ (even when it goes against the base-game grain). The only explanations I can think of are an appeal to memes (as already mentioned by another user) or glaring levels of haste.

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I get that zoos IRL don't abide by natural overlap. But the gameplay mechanic for PZ clearly did have that in mind up until the capybara. You can already house animals like cassowaries and pygmy hippos together just fine. They just don't get enrichment from doing so.

I suspect that the elephant-proboscis monkey case is the former being a stand-in for Bornean elephants, while the rhino-tommie case is just the devs copy-pasting the species enrichment from another savannah animal and overlooking the range gap. Here the capybara's species enrichment is very deliberately chosen to be every remotely South American herbivore already in PZ (even when it goes against the base-game grain). The only explanations I can think of are an appeal to memes (as already mentioned by another user) or glaring levels of haste.

Edit: I now know the unicode emoticons will turn into emojis even when other characters are next them
With the Capybara, you also have a lot of zoos that have them in with a whole lot of other animals as it is. I think the Giant Anteater is the only one I haven't seen them in with, I think I've seen them in with the tortoise but not totally sure there.

A lot of it is that the Capybara is an animal that can get along with anything that isn't a threat to them and adjust rather easily even if they wouldn't normally react in the wild.
 
With the Capybara, you also have a lot of zoos that have them in with a whole lot of other animals as it is. I think the Giant Anteater is the only one I haven't seen them in with, I think I've seen them in with the tortoise but not totally sure there.

A lot of it is that the Capybara is an animal that can get along with anything that isn't a threat to them and adjust rather easily even if they wouldn't normally react in the wild.
Houston Zoo houses giant anteaters and capybara together in the Pantanal section
 
I get that zoos IRL don't abide by natural overlap. But the gameplay mechanic for PZ clearly did have that in mind up until the capybara. You can already house animals like cassowaries and pygmy hippos together just fine. They just don't get enrichment from doing so.

I suspect that the elephant-proboscis monkey case is the former being a stand-in for Bornean elephants, while the rhino-tommie case is just the devs copy-pasting the species enrichment from another savannah animal and overlooking the range gap. Here the capybara's species enrichment is very deliberately chosen to be every remotely South American herbivore already in PZ (even when it goes against the base-game grain). The only explanations I can think of are an appeal to memes (as already mentioned by another user) or glaring levels of haste.

Edit: I now know the unicode emoticons will turn into emojis even when other characters are next them
Thing is, the game never used overlapping ranges.
Ever since the beta, many of the African grassland animals in the game would have never met one another in the wild, yet get enrichment from one another (for example, the reticulated giraffe of east Africa and the springbok of South Africa and Namibia).
That in addition to the ring tailed lemurs abd ref ruffed lemurs, animals from different parts of Madagascar, enriching one another since the latter got added. Later expanded with the black-and-white ruffed lemur.

With the Southeast Asia Pack, it became even more notable with the Malayan tapir getting enrichment with the primates from Borneo.

You can argue that the case of capybara-giant tortoise is more extreme than these examples, but the statement that interspecies bonus was limited to animals with overalapping ranges or for stand-ins is flat out wrong.
 
many of the African grassland animals in the game would have never met one another in the wild, yet get enrichment from one another (for example, the reticulated giraffe of east Africa and the springbok of South Africa and Namibia).
That's fair. The big African conglomerate did always seem a bit overdoing it. Though it seem like the devs wanted to make a more Southern giraffe given the origins of Planet Zoo being Planet Safari and the high level of Southern African animals in the base game. I guess they thought the reticulated (sub)species was the most widely recognized? That or it got changed once the concept expanded from safari trails to zoos.
the ring tailed lemurs abd ref ruffed lemurs, animals from different parts of Madagascar, enriching one another since the latter got added. Later expanded with the black-and-white ruffed lemur.
That definitely does seem like an oversight by the developers. Maybe they didn't realize that Madagascar holds a variety of biomes?
With the Southeast Asia Pack, it became even more notable with the Malayan tapir getting enrichment with the primates from Borneo.
Malayan tapirs used to live in Borneo up until a couple centuries ago, I think that enrichment holds some merit.
 
given the origins of Planet Zoo being Planet Safari and the high level of Southern African animals in the base game
Is that true? Not doubting it, but would love to see a source -- it would certainly explain the game's biases towards Southern and Eastern Africa.
 
Is that true? Not doubting it, but would love to see a source -- it would certainly explain the game's biases towards Southern and Eastern Africa.
I don't believe it's been officially confirmed by any developers, but you can connect a lot of dots. A trademark for "Planet Safari" has been registered since 2016, about 2 years before they trademarked "Planet Zoo". Datamining some icons also indicates that the first few animals were all from Africa. 9 animals in particular have thumbnails formatted differently from the rest of the roster, being the following:
  • African Bush Elephant
  • African Wild Dog
  • Cheetah
  • Hippopotamus
  • Plains Zebra
  • Reticulated Giraffe (potentially renamed?)
  • Saltwater Crocodile (likely renamed from Nile Crocodile, they get infected with the specific Nile crocodilepox virus and are the only otherwise non-African habitat animal in the E3 demo map)
  • Springbok
  • West African Lion (likely renamed, as the PZ animals don't really look like the Northern subspecies of lion)
 
I don't believe it's been officially confirmed by any developers, but you can connect a lot of dots. A trademark for "Planet Safari" has been registered since 2016, about 2 years before they trademarked "Planet Zoo". Datamining some icons also indicates that the first few animals were all from Africa. 9 animals in particular have thumbnails formatted differently from the rest of the roster, being the following:
  • African Bush Elephant
  • African Wild Dog
  • Cheetah
  • Hippopotamus
  • Plains Zebra
  • Reticulated Giraffe (potentially renamed?)
  • Saltwater Crocodile (likely renamed from Nile Crocodile, they get infected with the specific Nile crocodilepox virus and are the only otherwise non-African habitat animal in the E3 demo map)
  • Springbok
  • West African Lion (likely renamed, as the PZ animals don't really look like the Northern subspecies of lion)
Very interesting. Also, I think it's hilarious to imagine a "Planet Soccer" (another trademarked name, for those who didnt read the doc) with all the top-down mechanics of Planet Zoo or Coaster.
 
Houston Zoo houses giant anteaters and capybara together in the Pantanal section
That's kind of surprising, most places don't house anteaters with much else unless they're arboreal because the giant anteater can accidentally kill a lot of things, even keepers tend to get some injuries from them. They're friendly but don't quite get that others aren't as durable...
 
That's kind of surprising, most places don't house anteaters with much else unless they're arboreal because the giant anteater can accidentally kill a lot of things, even keepers tend to get some injuries from them. They're friendly but don't quite get that others aren't as durable...
Yeah the only reason I know they're in the same habitat is because I was watching a video tour on youtube (I think it was a recent one) and they were shown together. The capy was just chilling and the anteater ran up on it and was messing with it. It didn't swipe but still.
 
Yeah the only reason I know they're in the same habitat is because I was watching a video tour on youtube (I think it was a recent one) and they were shown together. The capy was just chilling and the anteater ran up on it and was messing with it. It didn't swipe but still.
From my understanding, captive raised giant anteaters tend to be a lot like a puppy...friendly and energetic, just that they don't realize that other creatures tend to not have the strength of claws that can tear into concrete...kind of like a more extreme version of the sun bears capability.
 
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