Dear FDev!
Please make an option to see the temperature not only in Kelvin but also in Celsius.
Thank you!
Please make an option to see the temperature not only in Kelvin but also in Celsius.
Thank you!
Celsius degree setting option
- Thread starter KiruHoshino
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I doubt this would ever happen as the only time temperature is referenced like this is in the system map. Normal convention is to use Kelvin when you're looking at temperatures in space as a reference point based on water doesn't really have that much relevance. There's lots of liquid forming compounds in existence and using water as your temperature marker isn't relevent to the vast majority of bodies. Absolute zero on the other hand is something that has far more meaning across all the bodies of a system.
It's for the same reason there's no option for Imperial measurements for distance. They are established units, but it's not the scientific norm.
It's for the same reason there's no option for Imperial measurements for distance. They are established units, but it's not the scientific norm.
That's understandable, but not everyone can imagine how many degrees Celsius xy Kelvin is around. If nothing else it could be shown in brackets.
Most of the players are not astronomers and we don't have a calculator to calculate that. But if this displayed, there is something to compare the wildly temperatures outside with.
Most of the players are not astronomers and we don't have a calculator to calculate that. But if this displayed, there is something to compare the wildly temperatures outside with.
You don't have to be an astronaut. Unlike certain other units Celsius has the same scaling as Kelvin. It's just a difference of roughly 273 degrees.
Good idea, I don't mind Kelvin but in Celsius its instant visualisation for me too CMDR!
How close to absolute zero is -253 celsius?
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
-253°C is 20.15 K
It's just that it comes down to the fact that if you have Celsius, a certain country will want Farenheit and that quite frankly would be an abomination.
I think it was a rhetorical question regarding the argument that Celsius would be instant visualisation
I don't really understand why this is a problem for you? You'd use the one that's right for you. That's what this setting is for.
I don't think it would take a lot of development resources to do this simple setting.
I'm part joking, but it's the use of SI units that's the thing here. The game is trying to be as scientifically accurate as making sure you still have a fun game at the end of it will allow. The standard format scientists use for measuring temperature in space is Kelvin, which is why that's the only one used. It's all meant to feel like what you're looking at is a real representation of how a galaxy map and system maps would actually be put together if we had EDs technology now.
I am not asking you to drop it the Kelvin. Just at least put it brackets how many degrees Celsius we are talking about.
I see 770 Kelvin above, for example, and I take it as completely meaningless. But when I see next to it that 770 Kelvin is 497 degrees Celsius, I am more surprised.
I see 770 Kelvin above, for example, and I take it as completely meaningless. But when I see next to it that 770 Kelvin is 497 degrees Celsius, I am more surprised.
You just need to remember that 300K is the equivalent of a nice but rather crisp Spring day on Earth - that is 16-17 °C
And go from there
250K would be a Siberian/Arctic winter
350K would be like scorching oneself in the middle of desert with no sun cover at all
Else, i really dont think they will add any helpers to the ingame measurement system which is based (more or less) to the SI standard
IF they would add (°C) after the Kelvin temperature an entire sh.t storm will happen with a lot of voices demanding local time instead of UTC game time and other various helpers for the metric to imperial system
It's simply not feasible.
While it's really easy as is now.
While the pretty much only scientifically used scale is Kelvin, I don't think it's unreasonable for a game to offer the option of displaying the other widely temperature scales (Fahrenreit and Celsius).
This could be a pretty simple toggle in the game options - with Kevin selected as default so the game remains completely unchanged for those who already prefer it.
This could be a pretty simple toggle in the game options - with Kevin selected as default so the game remains completely unchanged for those who already prefer it.
Possible to be simple to add that *() - it will not help at all, but it will increase the confusion level.
Two people speaking about the same planet, one mentioning F other C - they will have a hard time.
Keeping everything in a single measurement unit is the only way to have a plain common language.
*(although i would not count on that - nothing seems to be easy when modifying the way stuff is displayed - just remember the bounties displayed in the transaction panel and in the info panel in Horizons)
We will have Kelvin for us, Celsius for Europeans and Fahrenheit for Americans all in a long line, all you need to remember is freezing point of water (on earth) is 273.2K, Boiling point is 373.2K (on earth again) but apart from earth that probably won't be true for anywhere else in the galaxy. Of course for the weirdos we should also include the Rankine and the Réaumur. Oops lets not forget the Rømer scale, sorry Rømerians, can't leave you lot out.
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Just minus 273. It's easier than converting from Fahrenheit to Celius. Besides, if you add celsius you then have to add a Fahrenheit option.
Technically speaking, only 5 countries in the world use Farenheit over Celsius. And only one of them is actually big enough to be of significance.
-USA
-Bahamas
-Cayman islands
-Liberia
-Palau
-Federated States of Micronesia
-Marshall Islands
Which is why the US tried to switch to Celsius at some point, but the people refused (on majority).
So technically speaking, it's Farenheit for the USA and a few small states, Celsius for the rest of the world
I to support a Celsius option in game. And a Farenheit one for our weirdos, but friends nevertheless, on the other side of the water.
It's is also displayed quite prominently in the on foot HUD. And to your comment re: a certain country asking for Fahrenheit, Alexa keeps me apprised of temperature quite nicely. No need for anything in game for this Yank.
Fahrenheit for me thanks. Us dumb cowboys like to play too.