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Amata Lirein

Amata Lirein
Well then, Tier 1 reached for the Empire. After being denied a clear win CG after CG after CG only to be proven right in the aftermath after all (Eurybia, LTT 1935, even Ackwada if it hasn't been for that handicap given to the Marlinists) the Empire has finally the chance to win AND tell the rest of the galaxy, and especially the Fednecks, to listen before dismissing everything we say... and that would be a waaaaaay overdue development regarding how the playerbase percieves the Empire in general. :giggle:

The only way FDev could mess things up at this point is having ACT report that Hadrian is the mastermind behind the NMLA indeed, undoing everything the storyline and the Empire-supporting players have been working towards since the first NMLA bombings... So pleeeeeeaaaaase, FDevs, let ACT report that the accusations against Hadrian Duval were pure fabrications by the Landgrave to safe his hide... otherwise the entire last year would have been in vain. 😟
 

Vetinari

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Amata Lirein said:
Well then, Tier 1 reached for the Empire. After being denied a clear win CG after CG after CG only to be proven right in the aftermath after all (Eurybia, LTT 1935, even Ackwada if it hasn't been for that handicap given to the Marlinists) the Empire has finally the chance to win AND tell the rest of the galaxy, and especially the Fednecks, to listen before dismissing everything we say... and that would be a waaaaaay overdue development regarding how the playerbase percieves the Empire in general. :giggle:
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posts like this dont help the general feeling towards the Imps...just saying

Imps invade Feds on terrorist hunt = good, Feds invade Imps on terrorist hunt = bad ?
Amata Lirein said:
The only way FDev could mess things up at this point is having ACT report that Hadrian is the mastermind behind the NMLA indeed, undoing everything the storyline and the Empire-supporting players have been working towards since the first NMLA bombings... So pleeeeeeaaaaase, FDevs, let ACT report that the accusations against Hadrian Duval were pure fabrications by the Landgrave to safe his hide... otherwise the entire last year would have been in vain. 😟
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Someone at the top of the Empire is in league with NMLA, also someone at top of Alliance and Federation, who would you prefer the Imp one to be?

Ian Doncaster said:
Well, this week's Community Schedule is out ... and doesn't say "Community Goal" on Thursday.

So maybe nothing this week, and something Alliance election related next week? If so, what if any non-CG event this week?
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Just forgot? Havent looked yet but have they mentioned Twitch Drops this week, they forgot that bit last week :)

Or 'In other news, some elections are taking place somewhere soon apparently but nobody bothered by that at al so dont bother preparing for itl' seems more likely. Maybe just a week off to give people chance to catch up with Hesperus or a break after Carpal Tunnel Syndrome CGs recently :)
 

Rainbro

Rainbro
Vetinari said:
posts like this dont help the general feeling towards the Imps...just saying
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Well, I for one think it's a great indication of how the Empire can put aside its differences and work together towards a common goal. And it only took two political purges to get there
Vetinari said:
Imps invade Feds on terrorist hunt = good, Feds invade Imps on terrorist hunt = bad ?
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Well, the difference there is that the Imperials had actual intel, whereas the Feds had highly questionable, leaked, unverified, illogical information, as well as attacking after ACT was formed to supposedly foster superpower cooperation over this. But then, I'd disagree with the idea that the Empire was "right" over Eurybia, they fell for the same trick that Liz did, and invaded because of it.

The right choice was made here however, I'm sure of that. Not because the Feds were the ones to attack, could easily have been the Empire again and it would have been the same. In fact, Frontier choosing to have the Federation attack instead of the Empire makes me think that Arissa would be more inclined to order a defence at this early stage, if she wasn't blocked by Blaine anyway...
 

Amata Lirein

Amata Lirein
Rainbro said:
Well, the difference there is that the Imperials had actual intel, whereas the Feds had highly questionable, leaked, unverified, illogical information, as well as attacking after ACT was formed to supposedly foster superpower cooperation over this. But then, I'd disagree with the idea that the Empire was "right" over Eurybia, they fell for the same trick that Liz did, and invaded because of it.

The right choice was made here however, I'm sure of that. Not because the Feds were the ones to attack, could easily have been the Empire again and it would have been the same. In fact, Frontier choosing to have the Federation attack instead of the Empire makes me think that Arissa would be more inclined to order a defence at this early stage, if she wasn't blocked by Blaine anyway...
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I think that was referring to LTT 1935, when the Empire had evidence that the NMLA operated out of Federal space. They handed that evidence over to the Federal Ambassador to the Empire, Jordan Rochester, who replied with "The very idea that the Federation might be somehow involved with the NMLA is perposterous." Translation: "Get lost, we'll do nothing about this." In return the Empire tried to pacify the system in order to lead an investigation on their own which the Fednecks refused to perform themselves, only to be defeated in the accompanying CG being labeled "evil invaders" by the Fednecks.
 

CMDR Serra

CMDR Serra
Vetinari said:
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Someone at the top of the Empire is in league with NMLA, also someone at top of Alliance and Federation, who would you prefer the Imp one to be?
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My money is on:
  • Jordan Rochester Jerome Archer
  • Anders Blaine
  • Who cares? Alliance haven't done much of anything for or against the NMLA. Some no-name mook I guess?
Mainly because most of the other key players are protected by PP plot armour.

Ian Doncaster said:
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So maybe nothing this week, and something Alliance election related next week? If so, what if any non-CG event this week?
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Salvation is most likely I reckon. Followed by collect random selection of goods (rares?) for election.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Vetinari said:
posts like this dont help the general feeling towards the Imps...just saying

Imps invade Feds on terrorist hunt = good, Feds invade Imps on terrorist hunt = bad ?
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Except the circumstances are incredibly different.

The Empire entered LTT 1935 with the intent of locating a suspected NMLA bomb making facility based on actual evidence, and were met with resistance from the Federal Navy. The Empire even implicitly acknowledged the Federation may not have been in league with them, although was definitely politicising it to be the case. Let's also note that it was Jordan Rochester who rejected any Federal involvement; Rochesters have proven to be involved in a level of conspiracy within their own government.

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The Federation is outright invading with no such pretense of investigation, and accuses the Empire of protecting the NNLA. Let's also not forget that Nova Imperium is the one fighting here; the Empire has not intervened, and are still corroborating the evidence the invasion is based on with ACT, like they should be.

So, yes, the Empire going into LTT1935 was absolutely good, compared to Federal actions here.
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Jmanis said:
the Empire has not intervened
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It is official policy that "There is no Nova Imperium. There is only the Empire."

I'm fairly sure the Empire has to view itself as having already fighting off the Federal attack, with coordination being done as would be usual by the local Imperial faction.

That the faction in question is led in an anomalous faction by someone neither in the Senator-Patron-Client structure nor in the official Imperial Family is one of those things everyone on all sides is probably studiously avoiding asking about.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Its my dream that a giant kale leaf warps above Alliance parliament Neon Genesis Evangelion style, and lays waste to the veg lovers- the Alliance never seem to cop anything bad. Mahons been far too quiet these days.
 

maehara

maehara
Rubbernuke said:
Its my dream that a giant kale leaf warps above Alliance parliament Neon Genesis Evangelion style, and lays waste to the veg lovers- the Alliance never seem to cop anything bad. Mahons been far too quiet these days.
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Cue Cllr Kaine, staring at the current Prime Minister, fingers steepled beneath her chin....
"Get in the bloody robot, Edmund..."
 

Yumasai

Yumasai
Hadrian Augustus Duval is apart of the Imperial Family as he carries the Duval name and blood. He just has been rejected into having a formal position within the family. (I.e. no Prince title)
 

Commdor

Commdor
Jmanis said:
Except the circumstances are incredibly different.

The Empire entered LTT 1935 with the intent of locating a suspected NMLA bomb making facility based on actual evidence, and were met with resistance from the Federal Navy. The Empire even implicitly acknowledged the Federation may not have been in league with them, although was definitely politicising it to be the case. Let's also note that it was Jordan Rochester who rejected any Federal involvement; Rochesters have proven to be involved in a level of conspiracy within their own government.

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The Federation is outright invading with no such pretense of investigation, and accuses the Empire of protecting the NNLA. Let's also not forget that Nova Imperium is the one fighting here; the Empire has not intervened, and are still corroborating the evidence the invasion is based on with ACT, like they should be.

So, yes, the Empire going into LTT1935 was absolutely good, compared to Federal actions here.
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If I remember correctly, the Imperial invasion of LTT 1935 was carried out by a pro-Imp minor faction, but this intervention was both requested and backed by the Imperial Internal Security Service, an official arm of the Empire.

Whereas here, a Federal minor faction is invading Paresa without any official orders or support from the Fed gov't.

The only reason the LTT 1935 operation was not viewed by the Feds as a full-on Imperial assault was because LTT 1935 was a "border system" or contested territory that already had both Fed and Imp factions squabbling. I assume the Empire is similarly not utterly outraged by the Paresa invasion because they recognize that the League of Mandu is not acting with the Hudson's blessing.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Commdor said:
Whereas here, a Federal minor faction is invading Paresa without any official orders or support from the Fed gov't.
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Mhmm. That's why the headline is "Federation Attacks Nova Imperium".

But sure, let's roll with this. I look forward to hearing Hudson chastise this particular rogue element of the Federation, acting absolutely without authorisation. Will Hudson step in to defend Nova Imperium? Will he send an unconditional apology to the Empire for failing to keep his own military forces in check?

In other words, instead of malicious, the Federation is outright incompetent. I'd take that.
 

Commdor

Commdor
Jmanis said:
Mhmm. That's why the headline is "Federation Attacks Nova Imperium".

But sure, let's roll with this. I look forward to hearing Hudson chastise this particular rogue element of the Federation, acting absolutely without authorisation. Will Hudson step in to defend Nova Imperium? Will he send an unconditional apology to the Empire for failing to keep his own military forces in check?

In other words, instead of malicious, the Federation is outright incompetent. I'd take that.
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So the truncated headline matters more than the content of the full article?

Also, I think you misunderstand the relationship between superpowers and minor factions. Minor factions can be likened to political movements. Anyone can set up a minor faction and declare allegiance to a superpower, it doesn't mean that the superpower automatically endorses them and everything they do. Hudson has no reason to apologize for the League of Mandu in the same way that ADL has no reason to apologize for the Neo-Marlinist Order of Mudhrid.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Commdor said:
So the truncated headline matters more than the content of the full article?

Also, I think you misunderstand the relationship between superpowers and minor factions. Minor factions can be likened to political movements. Anyone can set up a minor faction and declare allegiance to a superpower, it doesn't mean that the superpower automatically endorses them and everything they do. Hudson has no reason to apologize for the League of Mandu in the same way that ADL has no reason to apologize for the Neo-Marlinist Order of Mudhrid.
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So, league of mandu is a terrorist organisation. Got it. Hudson should do more to keep his domestic terror issues inside his own borders then.

As for truncated headlines, the detailed article might contain more information, but it's not in isolation of the headline. This is a federally endorsed invasion. A nation state doesn't just invade with the power of an admiral behind it without representation of that parent entity.
 

Commdor

Commdor
Jmanis said:
So, league of mandu is a terrorist organisation. Got it. Hudson should do more to keep his domestic terror issues inside his own borders then.

As for truncated headlines, the detailed article might contain more information, but it's not in isolation of the headline. This is a federally endorsed invasion. A nation state doesn't just invade with the power of an admiral behind it without representation of that parent entity.
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Where in the article does the Federation endorse the League of Mandu's invasion, and where is Admiral Natalia Lee identified as a member of the Federal Navy? Minor factions have their own private military/security forces (example: Nova Imperium).
 
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