General Change the BLOCK for players.

[SergMx]

1. Enabling the player's blocking does not prevent him from seeing another player in the open game only blocks his messages.
2. If a player with enabled message about a crime wasn't killed legally (everybody understands, not in Anarchy, not in the Conflict Zone, not in a hostile force(PP) if you are in force, etc.) then the one who killed is issued a bounties equal to the amount of full insurance of the killed ship.
3. All bounties are added up and if the player intends to pay off the bounties, these all amounts go to the accounts of the killed commanders.
4. If a player does not pay off the bounties his Notoriety every 2 hours drops to 1 point.

UPD:
a. The bounties can only be paid for by Interstellar Factors with any Notoriety. Until you make such a payment your Notoriety will fall on any game. Since flying with an bounties is a crime in itself, as you are a criminal.

 

[Chrystoph]

Why not just say what you mean. Your proposal will do nothing for the Blocker because the people you are writing about won't pay their fines.

You merely want blocking removed from the game.

 

[gorankar]

Block exists for a reason. To remove players people don't wish to interact with from their game. It's use is every bit as legitimate as ganking or player killing is.

Don't be a jerk, and you are unlikely to get blocked. It's sort of like "git gud and you are unlikely to get ganked successfully".

Is it me, or have there have been a lot of "get rid of block we need our victims back" threads lately.

 

[Vetinari]

Wahoo another one, but less insulty, well done.

Whats up, are you finding less people to kill at all these Halloween sites and CGs or something? Try not being a Richard?

 

[varonica]

People block other people for a reason, I suggest if you are being blocked a lot look to your recent behaviour as an example of why the block function needs to remain exactly as is!

 

[Morbad]

People block other people for a reason, I suggest if you are being blocked a lot look to your recent behaviour as an example of why the block function needs to remain exactly as is!

There are only two cases I'm aware of where my CMDR has been blocked:

Once was when a pair of Cutters at a Thargoid structure blocked my CMDR so they could gank the non-combat ships in my wing without my CMDR being able to return after being driven off.

The second time was by a CMDR who had never even encountered my CMDR in game, because of a mistaken assumption due to a misinterpretation of a forum post here.

Neither of these seem like they would be the examples you mean, but I'd be surprised if they were uncommon. I'm sure there have been people who have blocked my CMDR that I wasn't aware of, but their rationale would be a mystery to me. I play a clean game and cannot know what nonsensical presumption go through the heads of others.

 

[varonica]

There are only two cases I'm aware of where my CMDR has been blocked:

Once was when a pair of Cutters at a Thargoid structure blocked my CMDR so they could gank the non-combat ships in my wing without my CMDR being able to return after being driven off.

The second time was by a CMDR who had never even encountered my CMDR in game, because of a mistaken assumption due to a misinterpretation of a forum post here.

Neither of these seem like they would be the examples you mean, but I'd be surprised if they were uncommon. I'm sure there have been people who have blocked my CMDR that I wasn't aware of, but their rationale would be a mystery to me. I play a clean game and cannot know what nonsensical presumption go through the heads of others.

That's why I said a lot, a couple of blocks for unreasonable assumptions, or maybe just mistaking your cutter for someone who just ganked them aren't a lot, but if you jump into a system and after a while find most of the players in the system have blocked you, then there aren't that many conclusions that can be drawn.

I personally have no-one blocked, but then I have a natural advantage in that I rarely get grouped with anyone due to location, so even if the block feature was changed it wouldn't affect me, if I wanted to do CG's I could do so with virtual impunity.

 

[SergMx]

Why not just say what you mean. Your proposal will do nothing for the Blocker because the people you are writing about won't pay their fines.

You merely want blocking removed from the game.

Will not pay ?
I.e. to be constantly attacked by the ATR (special forces) and not be able to dock in non-anarchy systems ?

P.S. No one can say if someone has it in a block sheet.
P.P.S. When I wrote above, I always meant awards.

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Pilots Federation bounties are issued for illegal PVP crimes. They are valid in all non-anarchy systems.
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P.P.P.S. The bounties can only be paid for by Interstellar Factors with any Notoriety. Until you make such a payment your Notoriety will fall on any game. Since flying with an bounties is a crime in itself, as you are a criminal.

 

[Misty_Dark]

And here you are basically wanting to push your own opinion onto other players about how the game is supposed to be played.

Just the simple fact that you are upset about the block functions is evidence that the function is working as intended.


There is a big difference between play how you like and demand OTHERS to play how you like.
Just for a moment, think about what would happen if you could demand that anyone has to be your content for your amusement, then everyone else should have the same say in how YOU play the game... have read any "Open PvE" threads? where people are demanding to abolish the PvP thing you desire... So be careful for what you wish for, because if you are to demand changes to force other players to play the way you like, then be prepared for other players demanding you to play they THEY like.

The current blocking system, is mostly a cause and effect remedy system. So if you behave what another player considers bad, then that player can decide that you are the mean kid on the block and decide not to play with you anymore. So the more players you tick off this way, the less player are going to want to be around you. And trying to force them to be around by this kind of suggestions, will not have the desired effect, it will force players to get back to what they did before, choose solo or private group and what have you gained then? nothing, and now we see the force players into open arguments again...



Not to talk about the missing omission about what about blowing up a fully loaded mining ship, yay, that player will eventually get their rebuy back, but no what the cargo was worth. or their time. and even if you where to include the cargo, the mining is showing off exactly why this will be really bad, as the galactic average is far from what you can get paid... or failed missions rewards due to ship getting blown up, or that explorer that spent months exploring and seeing all their data just vanish etc, etc, if you are to get into this kind of logic to try to make the victim less punished from getting killed, you have missed quite alot of things to make that happen...

 

[Old Duck]

I can pretty much guarantee that Frontier won't be changing anything like the block feature until Odyssey releases. They can't even be bothered to fix actual bugs that everyone agrees on, LOL.

 

[GloatingSwine]

If you're getting blocked, maybe think about what it is about you that makes the game more fun for others without you in it?

 

[Maymo]

If FD completely removed blocking more people would simply move to solo/private.

If FD then removed solo/private less people would bother playing the game. Who wants to be assaulted every time they try and engineer a module?

I really don’t know why there’s so much squabbling about it.

The PvP crowd would be better posting suggestions on how they can all play together with like minded individuals...

...not trying to make everyone else feel bad for failing to provide them with content.

 

[Para Handy]

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Who has been a naughty boy then? Tut Tut.

 

[Old Duck]

I really don’t know why there’s so much squabbling about it.

BLOCK is the monster that lives under the bed of all murdernoobs. It scares them to death!

 

[Rubbernuke]

Blocking makes sense in the main game, but not for Powerplay where killing is useful and can be misused. But eh.

 

[SergMx]

I read it and probably many people have a false impression about me.
I have never been a ganker and in the game I always play the role of a good guy and never attack anybody from the commanders, but only defend myself.
But I can't keep silent against not justice in the game. After all, blocking is not essentially a game mechanics, it's almost the same as pulling a cord. Either you are ready to love dangers and play an open game or you play a solo or a private group.
In essence blocking is to tell other players what to play - it is not necessary to do it.
On the other hand that the system of punishments is not absolutely enough and gankers are not afraid of anything.
I have the feeling that most of the people who are against predlongation and there are gankers because under the mask of blocking they are afraid of penalties that will prevent them from doing it !

Blocking basically destroys an open game, turning it into a PG.

 

[Maymo]

I read it and probably many people have a false impression about me.
I have never been a ganker and in the game I always play the role of a good guy and never attack anybody from the commanders, but only defend myself.
But I can't keep silent against not justice in the game. After all, blocking is not essentially a game mechanics, it's almost the same as pulling a cord. Either you are ready to love dangers and play an open game or you play a solo or a private group.
In essence blocking is to tell other players what to play - it is not necessary to do it.
On the other hand that the system of punishments is not absolutely enough and gankers are not afraid of anything.
I have the feeling that most of the people who are against predlongation and there are gankers because under the mask of blocking they are afraid of penalties that will prevent them from doing it !

Blocking basically destroys an open game, turning it into a PG.

All very noble cmdr, but you're not going to convince anyone not to use blocking. I'm unsure what you're hoping to achieve.

Threads like this are basically the equivalent of junk mail here on the forums. It comes through the door everyday and goes straight in the bin.

 

[SergMx]

All very noble cmdr, but you're not going to convince anyone not to use blocking. I'm unsure what you're hoping to achieve.

Threads like this are basically the equivalent of junk mail here on the forums. It comes through the door everyday and goes straight in the bin.

It is very simple.
It has to be removed from the game and that's all. And for the place of it to think about and tighten the system of penalties to make it in the game !

 

[Vetinari]

The PvP crowd would be better posting suggestions on how they can all play together with like minded individuals...

PVP PG and shrink PP to 5 System each to make sure its possible to bump into someone? Nah, better to blame everyone and everything else

It has to be removed from the game and that's all.

Has to hey? You said that did you? Does that work in your world, you say something and everybody lies down? If so thats probably why the online people choose to avoid you.

 

[Morbad]

If FD completely removed blocking more people would simply move to solo/private.

This would be the ideal scenario. Those not able to abide by what others do switching to a mode that better suits them, rather than trying to impose their personal conditions upon Open.

I really don’t know why there’s so much squabbling about it.

I suspect that's because you have a fundamental misinterpretation of the issue and are jumping to erroneous and overgeneralized conclusions.

Just the simple fact that you are upset about the block functions is evidence that the function is working as intended.

The block function exists to upset players of benign CMDRs like SergMx?

Frankly I think his suggestion is asinine, but to imply that he, or anyone else, because they take issue with the block functionality, is a ridiculous and wholly unjustifiable presumption.

Has to hey? You said that did you? Does that work in your world, you say something and everybody lies down? If so thats probably why the online people choose to avoid you.

You're using a language barrier to twist his meaning and reiterate fallacious implications.