Change the Previous Expansion Packs Game

caninesrock

caninesrock
If you could change the previous expansions of Planet Zoo and do them with your own selfish roster, what animals would you put?

Deluxe Pack
Komodo Dragon American Mink (Komodo Dragon moved to base game where it replaces Aldabra Giant Tortoise)
Pygmy Hippo Leopard Seal
Thomson's Gazelle Black-backed Jackal (Thomson's Gazelle moved to base game where it replaces Springbok.)
+add the following
Patagonia Mara
Asian Golden Cat
American Black Bear
Virginia Opossum
Red-bellied Piranhas (Exhibit Animals)

Anniversary Animals
Black and White Ruffed Lemur American Marten
Red Deer
Collared Peccary Gray Fox
African Leopard



Arctic Pack (and Antarctica Pack)
Arctic Wolf
Dall Sheep Walrus
Polar Bear
Reindeer
+add the following:
Antarctic Fur Seal
Emperor Penguin
Southern Rockhopper Penguin
Pacific Hagfish (Exhibit Animal)

South America Pack
Capuchin Monkey White-nosed Coatimundi
Giant Anteater
Jaguar
Llama Gray Four-eyed Opossum (Llama moved to Tropical Pack.)
Red-eyed Tree Frog Macaws(Walk-through Exhibit Animals) (Blue and Gold, Scarlet, Military)
+ add the following:
Culpeo
Tamandua
Tayra

Australia Pack
Dingo
Eastern Blue-Tongue Lizard Frilled Lizard (Exhibit Animal)
Koala
Kangaroo
Cassowary
+ add the following:
Brush-tailed Possum
Numbat
Tiger Quoll

Aquatic Pack
Dwarf Caiman
Terrapin Electric Eel (Exhibit Animal)
Giant Otter
Grey Seal Hawaiian Monk Seal
King Penguin Otter Civet
+add the following:
Sea Otter
European Mink
Harbor Seal

Southeast Asia
Babirusa Slow Loris
Binturong
Clouded Leopard
Dhole
Giant Leaf Insect (Exhibit Animal)
Malayan Tapir Gayal
Prob. Monkey Sulawesi bear cuscus
Sun Bear

Africa Pack
African Penguin
Fennec Fox
Meerkat
Scarab Beetle West African Lungfish (Exhibit Animal)
White Rhino
+ add the following:
Common Genet
African Golden Wolf
Egyptian Mongoose

North America
American Bullfrog Alligator Snapping Turtle (Exhibit Animal)
American Alligator
Arctic Fox
California Sea Lion
Prairie Dog Fisher (Pekania pennanti) (Prairie Dog moved to Grasslands pack.)
Cougar
Moose
North American Beaver

Europe
Apline Ibex European Rabbit
Eurasian Lynx
European Badger
European Fallow Deer
Fire Salamander (Exhibit Animal)
+ add the following:
European Polecat
European Pine Marten
Scottish Wildcat

Wetlands
Asian Small-clawed Otter
Capybara
Danube Crested Newt (Exhibit Animal)
Nile Lechwe Bush Dog
Platypus
Red-crowned Crane North American River Otter
Spectacled Caiman Lowland Paca
Wild Water Buffalo Domestic Water Buffalo

Conservation
Amur Leopard
Axolotl (Exhibit Animal)
P.'s Horse
S. H. Oryx Black-footed Ferret
Siamang Santa Cruz Island Fox
+ add the following:
Narrow-striped Mongoose
Durrell's Vontsira
Red Wolf


Twilight
Common Wombat
Raccoon
Red Fox
Striped Skunk
Egyptian Fruit Bat (Walk-through Exhibit Animal)
+add the following:
Aardwolf
Galagos/Bush Babies
African Civet

Grasslands
Blue Wildebeest Coyote
Caracal
Emu Prairie Dog (Emu moved to base game where it replaces Indian Rhino.)
Maned Wolf
Nine-banded Armadillo
Red-necked Wallaby
Striped Hyena
Butterfly Species (Walk-through Exhibit Animals)

Tropical Pack
Asian Water Monitor Golden Palm Civet
Brown-throated Sloth (Walk-through Exhibit Animal)
Fossa
Lar Gibbon Llama
Red River Hog Ring-tailed Vontsira/Mongoose
+ add the following:
Red-rumped Agouti
Kinkajou
Brazilian Porcupine

Arid Pack
Addax Brown Hyena
African Crested Porcupine
Black Rhino Mexican Wolf
Dama Gazelle Bat-eared Fox
Desert Horned Viper Leopard Gecko (Exhibit Animal)
Dromedary Camel Pink Fairy Armadillo
Sand Cat
Somali Wild Ass Ringtail

Oceania
Little Blue Penguin
Kiwi
Quokka Greater Bilby
Spectacled Flying Fox (Walk-through Exhibit Animal)
Tasmanian Devil
+add the following:
Lumholtz Tree Kangaroo
Ringtail Possum
Echidna

Eurasia
Hermann's Tortoise Japanese Giant Salamander (Exhibit Animal)
Mute Swan Sable (Mute swan moved to base game, where it replaces Nile Monitor.)
Saiga Domestic Yak
Sloth Bear
Takin Tibetan Fox
Wild Boar Himalayan Wolf
Wisent Tanuki
Wolverine

Barnyard
Alpaca
Alpine Goat
American Standard Donkey
Highland Cattle
Hill Radnor Sheep
Sussex Chicken Bali Cattle/ Domestic Banteng
Tamworth Pig
Rhode Island Red Chickens (Walk-through Exhibit Animal)

Zookeepers
African Spurred Tortoise Ethiopian Wolf
Sifaka
Hamadryas Baboon Golden Lion Tamarin
Kirk's Dik Dik Indian Wolf
Markhor Jungle Cat
Pallas Cat
Spectacled Bear
Bhutan Giant Flying Squirrel (Walk-through Exhibit Animal)
 
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Mjmannella

Mjmannella
First thing's first, they're all Animal Packs now. No more of this scenery bloat. Now onto the meat & potatoes:

Anniversary Animals + Deluxe Upgrade:
  • Darwin's Rhea
  • Rock Monitor
  • Turkish Fallow Deer
  • Lord Howe Island Stick Insect (Exhibit, 1st anniversary bonus)
  • Indri
  • Marsh Deer
  • Carpathian Boar
  • Bay Cat
Arctic Animal Pack:
  • Arctic Fox
  • Caribou
  • Dall Sheep
  • Muskox
  • Polar Bear
  • Tundra Swan
  • Wolverine
  • Wood Frog (Exhibit)
South America Animal Pack:
  • Argentine Tegu
  • Giant Armadillo
  • Jaguarundi
  • Llama
  • Maned Wolf
  • Mantled Howler
  • Roseate Spoonbill
  • Emerald Tree Boa (Exhibit)
(the Colombian white-faced capuchin, giant anteater, and red-eyed tree frog are moved to the base game)
Oceania Animal Pack (former Australia Pack):
  • Common Wombat
  • Eastern Long-Beaked Echidna
  • Matschie's Tree-Kangaroo
  • Lace Monitor
  • Superb Lyrebird
  • Southern Cassowary
  • Tasmanian Devil
  • Thorny Devil (Exhibit)
Aquatic Animal Pack:
  • Australian Pelican
  • Broad-Snouted Caiman
  • Hawksbill Sea Turtle
  • Gentoo Penguin
  • Marine Iguana
  • Northern River Otter
  • Southern Elephant Seal
  • Diamondback Terrapin (Exhibit)
Southeast Asia Animal Pack:
  • Binturong
  • Black-Necked Stork
  • Mainland Clouded Leopard
  • Probocis Monkey
  • Siamang
  • Silver Pheasant
  • White-Striped Dorcopis
  • Malaysian Paint River Terrapin (Exhibit)
(the Giant Malaysian leaf insect is moved to the base game)
Africa Animal Pack:
  • Dromedary Camel
  • Greater Kudu
  • Grey Crowned Crane
  • Leopard
  • Red River Hog
  • Secretary Bird
  • White Rhinoceros
  • Panther Chameleon (Exhibit)
North America Animal Pack:
  • American Alligator
  • California Sea Lion
  • Collared Peccary
  • Mexican Beaded Lizard
  • Moose
  • Nine-Banded Armadillo
  • White-Nosed Coati
  • Axolotl (Exhibit)
Europe Animal Pack:
  • Alpine Chamois
  • Eurasian Beaver
  • European Badger
  • Harbour Seal
  • Iberian Lynx
  • Red Deer
  • Western Capercaillie
  • Great Grey Slug (Exhibit)
Wetlands Animal Pack:
  • Capybara
  • Central Slender-Snouted Crocodile
  • Domestic Water Buffalo
  • Ellipsen Waterbuck
  • Red-Crowned Crane
  • Scarlet Ibis
  • Shoebill
  • Central American Snapping Turtle (Exhibit)
Conservation Animal Pack:
  • Andean Mountain Cat
  • Dama Gazelle
  • Geoffrey's Spider Monkey
  • Indian Bustard
  • Père David's Deer
  • Scimitar Oryx
  • Vancouver Island Marmot
  • Dusky Sea Snake (Exhibit)
Nocturnal Animal Pack (former Twilight Pack):
  • American Hog-Nosed Skunk
  • Aye-Aye
  • Black-Capped Night Heron
  • Fossa
  • Kinkajou
  • Northern Red Muntjac
  • Southern Tamandua
  • Leach's Gecko (Exhibit)
Grasslands Animal Pack:
  • Aardwolf
  • Emu
  • Gerenuk
  • Przewalski's Horse
  • Red-Legged Seriema
  • Red-Necked Wallaby
  • Yucatan Brown Brocket
  • Common Peacock Butterfly (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Monarch Butterfly (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Old World Swallowtail (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Polyphemus Moth (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Viennese Emperor (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Tropical Animal Pack:
  • Bornean Crested Fireback
  • Crocodile Monitor
  • Humboldt's Squirrel Monkey
  • Jentink's Duiker
  • Pygmy Hippopotamus
  • Rhinoceros Iguana
  • Sumatran Serow
  • Hoffmann's Two-Toed Sloth (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Arid Animal Pack:
  • African Spurred Tortoise
  • Black-Tailed Jackrabbit
  • Crested Porcupine
  • Hamadryas Baboon
  • Puna Flamingo
  • Sacred Crocodile
  • Somali Wild Ass
  • Arabian Sand Boa (Exhibit)
Islands Animal Pack (former Oceania Pack):
  • Agile Wallaby
  • Buru Babirusa
  • Cuban Crocodile
  • Giant Coua
  • Hawaiian Goose
  • Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
  • Yellow-eyed Penguin
  • Javan Tailless Fruit Bat (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Madagascar Rousette (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • New Zealand Long-Tailed Bat (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Spectacled Flying Fox (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Sulawesi Rousette (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Greater Asia Animal Pack (former Eurasian Animal Pack):
  • Blackbuck
  • Back-Headed Ibis
  • Dhole
  • Nepal Grey Langur
  • Saiga
  • Sloth Bear
  • Takin
  • Horsfield's Tortoise (Exhibit)
Barnyard Animal Pack:
  • American Standard Donkey
  • Flemmish Giant Rabbit
  • Highland Cattle
  • Jersey Giant Chicken
  • Oberhasli Goat
  • Radnor Sheep
  • Tamworth Pig
  • Birmingham Roller Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Genuine Homer Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Lucerne Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Polish Lynx Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Red Swallow Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Zookeeper's Animal Pack:
  • Coppery Brushtail Possum
  • Hawk's Sportive Lemur
  • Japanese Giant Salamander
  • Mountain Tapir
  • Red-Breasted Merganser
  • Shetland Pony
  • Walrus
  • African Grey Parrot (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Hyacinth Macaw (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Pesquet's Parrot (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Scarlet Macaw (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Sulphur-Crested Cockatoo (Walkthrough Exhibit)
(Remaining DLC Pack(s) TBA)
 

Marvinb

Marvinb
Just gonna go back 1,5 years ago because thats where i was starting to really disagree with some of the choices.

Arid
-Porcupine
-Camel
-Cat
-Donkey
-Rhino -> Hamadryas baboon
-Addax -> Spurred tortoise
-Gazelle -> Guinea fowl

Oceania
- Kiwi
-Devil
-Quokka -> Tree kangaroo
-Penguin -> Black swan

Eurasia
-Boar
-Wisent
-Wolverine
-Takin
-Saiga -> Blackbuck
-Bear -> Rhesus macaque
-Swan -> Mandarin duck


Barnyard
-Cattle
-Chicken
-Alpaka
-Goat -> African dwarf goat
-Pig -> Vietnamese potbelly pig
-Sheep -> Flaemish giant rabbit
-Donkey - Shetland pony

Zookeeper
-Bear
-Markhor
-Dik dik
-Cat
-Baboon -> SA coati
-Tortoise -> Great white pelican
-Sifaka -> Scarlet ibis

Anniversary
-Leopard -> Squirrel monkey
 

NachoB

NachoB
I think we have done this several times but i have a lot to say about the packs rostros haha Knowing the whole picture some of my opinions have changed.

Arctic

  • Replace arctic wolf for arctic fox, open slot in NA
  • Replace dall's sheep for musk ox (now that we have got markhor, ibex and takini don't really find the sheep as important)
  • Add exhibit animal

South America

Leave it as it is.

Australia

Leave it as it is (we got all the important ones that were missing later on and i think the ones we did get in the pack are equally important)

NA

- Replace arctic fox with Roseatte spoonbill (give something more to the everglades and the americas as a whole) or with wild turkey (an iconic bird for NA).

Europe

Leave it as it is

SEA

Leave it as it is

Oceania

- Replace quokka with tree kangaroo

Twilight

Leave it as it is (i've done a complete 180 with my opinion of the roster now that we have the tassie, kiwi, fossa and so on, but i would probably exchange the skunk for the burrowing owl or somenthing)

Tropical

- Replace asian water monitor with Southamerican coati.

Grasslands

Leave it as it is

Arid

Oh boy... Now that we have ZK's i don't resent it as much. I like the dama gazelle but i can live without it, and i don't need the sand cat that much either so i would probably trade those two for hamadryas baboon and dik dik opening 2 slot in ZKs.

Wetlands

By nile lechwe, hello mandarin duck.

Aquatic

By caiman, hi pelican.

Conservation

By amur leopard, hi grey crowned crane.

And now for the ones i would make the most changes:

Barnyard:

Remove donkey, add rabbit. Remove pig, add a goose or another duck or the turkey or even a guineapig. Change goat species to pygmy goat.

Zookeeper's

Remove sifaka, exchange for spider monkey or howler monkey. Replace dik dik for patagonian mara and baboon for greater rhea (the other two added in Arid beforehand ofc).

This is all fully selfish but adds the following:

  • a pelican
  • a duck or two
  • a rabbit
  • a lot for southamerican: coati, monkey, rhea, mara.
  • an african ground bird
  • tree kangaroo
  • musk ox
 

Birb（｡･ө･｡）

Birb（｡･ө･｡）
I know the OP said this was meant to be “selfish” picks, but as someone who builds realistically diversity is very needed; though (un)luckily for me, most of the game's vacancies are among my favorite groups anyways!

Deluxe
Thomson’s Gazelle -> Grey-Crowned Crane: Didn’t need it and the springbok lol, so I’m ditching it for a species that actually occupies a new niche in African savanna sections.

Arctic
Swapping the two very, very niche picks in an otherwise double ungulate/carnivoran pack with some more valuable options:
Dall Sheep -> Snow Goose: Let’s get a waterfowl right off of the bat instead of one of the rarest of the many, many cold-weather caprids we ended up with.
Arctic Wolf -> Arctic Fox: Another carnivoran, sure, but probably the next most essential arctic habitat animal in my eyes after the polar bear, reindeer, and a filler bird.

South America
Llama -> White-Faced Whistling Duck: It and the alpaca are another pair of ungulates we didn’t need both of and it’ll feel pretty out of place for a few years without more domestics, might as well help fix the roster’s diversity issues one bird at a time instead.

Australia
Leave as is. Regardless of anyone’s thoughts on the dingo, it’s undeniably a common, basic animal for Australian sections, especially within the region.

Aquatic (Sticking with animals that fit the new for the time deep diving mechanic)
Cuvier’s Dwarf Caiman -> Arrau River Turtle: I don’t dislike this guy nearly as much as many others - quite the opposite - but I do think a habitat turtle would be far more interesting if I’m keeping the spectacled caiman down the line.

Southeast Asia
Proboscis Monkey -> Lar Gibbon: Gets rid of a pretty controversial choice and frees up a space in Tropical for a South American monkey that we should’ve gotten.
Dhole (Moved to Anniversary 3) -> Asian Water Monitor: I actually adore the dhole and can’t bring myself to get rid of it, so I’m just moving it and choosing to free up another spot in Tropical.
Clouded Leopard -> Victoria Crowned Pigeon: A bird could’ve been really valuable in this pack and it was down to this guy, the babirusa, and the tapir to get rid of for me. Ultimately the game is very heavy on cats, and as much as I adore cloudies, they just aren’t as useful as the other two to me. Also, we get a stealth Oceania pick!

Africa
Fine as is!

North America
Arctic Fox (Moved to Arctic) -> Roseate Spoonbill: Now that the fox is moved to Arctic, we can make room for a bird that should’ve been in this pack… and good lord there are too many options (turkey, one of many waterfowl, another crane, roadrunner, etc.), but I’d figure I’d go with this one as it’s a nice duo with the gator for the southern wetlands (in different habitats, obviously lol.) Super common in zoos and also ranges very far into South America. Plus, it could be mixed with the WFW duck added earlier! If you’re someone who doesn’t think Frontier could pull off the perching behavior, just pretend I said wild turkey or wood duck lol.


Anniversary Update 1
Black-and-White Ruffed Lemur -> Caribbean Flamingo: Just for funsies, I’ll do these guys too. I love the lemur, but it’s just more variety for a group of animals that already have that, so might as well stick with that theme and give said variety to a group that could use it more. I know many people prefer the American (and I can see why, given its more saturated colors), but the Caribbean just barely edges it out for me as a hardier, cold-tolerant alternative to the greater.

Europe
This pack’s animals just weren’t for me so take this with a grain of salt - I’m not very familiar with what is and isn’t essential in European zoos. However, I do think we can do better than double ungulates/carnivorans again.
European Badger -> White Stork: Europe is prime real estate for widespread, temperate bird species and it’s such a shame we barely have any. A pretty underrated pick that’s also ridiculously common (364 holdings in the EU alone).
Alpine Ibex -> Pied Avocet: Silly, unique, widespread shorebird > one of the actual games four wild, cold weather caprines

Wetlands

Wild Water Buffalo -> Domestic Water Buffalo: Simple change, personally I’m not bothered by the wild as much as other people are, as the only real in-game difference is the name, but the domestic would offer so much more for color variations so I might as well swap it.
Nile Lechwe -> Great White Pelican: Yeah, sure, it is unique among the game’s many other African antelopes, but how many times am I really gonna build a wetlands antelope habitat in my zoos? Might as well exchange it for an essential pelican.

Conservation
Scimitar Horned Oryx (Moved to Arid) -> Nēnē. I’d much rather have a bird in an otherwise all-habitat mammal pack with two ungulates, this guy can still make it in Arid in place of the Addax. Yet again, I’m sorry but we really didn’t need both lol.

Twilight
Red Fox -> Tasmanian Devil: Making some room in my beloved Oceania pack. The kiwi or even the penguin could fit here too, but I would hate to get rid of the fitting Māori statues they have in favor of uhh… gargoyles. Plus, the devil fits the spooky theme well.
Striped Skunk -> Indian Muntjac: Me? Adding an ungulate to a pack? Preposterous! Contrary to popular belief, I love ungulates when they’re worthwhile additions and aren’t taking up half the pack or more, and the muntjac is one of the only essentials left.

Anniversary Update 2:

Fine as is. The red deer isn’t for me at all but I can see its importance to others.

Grasslands
Caracal -> Helmeted Guineafowl: Swapping one of the games many cats in favor of one of the most underrated animal picks ever. Insanely common, good in both domestic and wild sections, and great mixed exhibit potential. With this, the crowned crane, and later the ground hornbill, I can finally have my dream trio of common African ground birds… which we have 0/3 of irl.

Tropical
Lar Gibbon (Moved to SEA) -> Black Howler Monkey: Monkey(y)

Asian Water Monitor (Moved to SEA) -> Palawan Peacock Pheasant: Pheasant(y)
Brown-throated Sloth -> Linnaeus’ two-toed Sloth: Just switching a rarer pick for a more common (and imo, cuter) option.

Arid (Keeping it as the Africa/Palearctic focused pack I’m assuming it was intended to be)
Addax -> Scimitar-horned Oryx: Like I said before, we didn’t need both.
Black Rhino -> Hamadryas Baboon: While it’s nice to have two African rhinos and I like these guys, it’s far from high on my list of priorities. Freeing up a spot in Zookeeper’s instead.
Dama Gazelle -> Southern Ground Hornbill: Yeah I don’t think I have to explain why this one is a much better choice.
Somali Wild Ass -> African Spurred Tortoise: The wild ass is really pretty and is ironically one of my favorites in the pack, but I’d be lying if I said it would’ve been one of my first choices due to how relatively uncommon and non-essential it is. The tortoise is not only a much better pick that adds a reptile to the pack but frees up a space in Zookeeper’s.
The sand cat is on thin ice, it can stay on the basis that I’ve already significantly cut down the game’s smaller cat roster, but I’m not totally opposed to swapping it.

Oceania
Tasmanian Devil (Moved to Twilight) -> Mastchie’s Tree Kangaroo: With this fan-favorite, the crowned pigeon, the next animal, and the existing cassowary and saltie in the game, Papua can finally have its essentials covered.
Quokka -> Short Beaked Echidna: Same reasoning as the kangaroo, but with the addition of being one of Australia’s last mammalian essentials
Spectacled Flying Fox -> Tuatara: The only time I’d trade a walkthrough animal for an exhibit box one. Aotearoa’s last non-flying essential and one of the only animals from the archipelago that would have a remotely realistic chance of making it into the game.

Anniversary Update 3
Keep as is. I didn't even know I wanted it, but the peccary was by far the best anniversary animal to me and I'm so grateful we got it for free.

Eurasia
Saiga -> Himalayan Monal: Easiest decision ever lmao. I don’t mind exceptionally rare species on exceptionally rare occasions, but certainly not one from an already very well represented group that does so poorly in captivity.
Sloth Bear -> Rhesus Macaque: I love the sloth bear, but a monkey is undeniably a better addition and it and a pheasant species were the most glaring exclusions from this pack to me.

Barnyard
Alpine Goat -> African Pygmy Goat: Trading an incredibly niche breed to literally one of the most common zoo animals ever. Also makes the pack less Eurocentric. It’s a crime that this wasn’t what we actually got in the first place
Tamworth Pig -> Kunekune: Pretty much the same reasoning as the goat.
Hill Radnor Sheep -> Domestic Rabbit: Sheep are nice and all but they aren’t essential from a zoo perspective to me. I like bunnies though, and they're a valuable rig to modders instead of yet another hoofstock breed.
Donkey -> Call Duck: I view the donkey similarly to the sheep, a duck is just far more useful and this is one of my personal favorite breeds.
Highland Cattle -> Ankole-Watusi: This one might be a hotter take. Don’t get me wrong, I still love the highland cow and this is a much more hesitant switch than the others, but I do think the watusi is far more broadly useful, plus it can be mixed with both the zoo-standard wild savanna ungulates as well as the pygmy goats and guineafowl from earlier.

Anniversary Update 4
African Leopard -> Dhole: Maybe not the greatest pick in the world, but it’s certainly far more reasonable than the leopard and I wanted to bring these guys back somewhere.

Zookeeper’s
Hamadryas Baboon (Moved to Arid) -> Mandarin Duck: Hey so, how the hell did this pack not have a single bird?
African Spurred Tortoise (Moved to Arid) -> Perentie: Another one of Australia’s last essentials.
Dik-Dik -> Patagonian Mara: With the muntjac making it in, the niche for a tiny ungulate has been filled and the dik-dik doesn’t do much for me anymore. Ironically, the mara fills a pretty similar niche without being an ungulate and is a nice little combo meal with the rhea.
Pallas’s Cat -> South American Coati: The small carnivoran we should have gotten.
Andean Bear -> Greater Rhea: I love the bear, but ratites are the real group that needs “completion”, sorry not sorry.
Sifaka -> Black-handed Spider Monkey: This is pretty much a stealth South America pack now but that isn’t a bad thing at all.
Markhor -> Black Swan: We didn’t need both the markhor and the takin and I vastly prefer the latter. If the real pack could have two bovids my version can have two much more useful waterfowl, sue me.
 
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synthetase

synthetase
Mjmannella said:
First thing's first, they're all Animal Packs now. No more of this scenery bloat. Now onto the meat & potatoes:

Anniversary Animals + Deluxe Upgrade:
  • Darwin's Rhea
  • Rock Monitor
  • Turkish Fallow Deer
  • Lord Howe Island Stick Insect (Exhibit, 1st anniversary bonus)
  • Indri
  • Marsh Deer
  • Carpathian Boar
  • Bay Cat
Arctic Animal Pack:
  • Arctic Fox
  • Caribou
  • Dall Sheep
  • Muskox
  • Polar Bear
  • Tundra Swan
  • Wolverine
  • Wood Frog (Exhibit)
South America Animal Pack:
  • Argentine Tegu
  • Giant Armadillo
  • Jaguarundi
  • Llama
  • Maned Wolf
  • Mantled Howler
  • Roseate Spoonbill
  • Emerald Tree Boa (Exhibit)
(the Colombian white-faced capuchin, giant anteater, and red-eyed tree frog are moved to the base game)
Oceania Animal Pack (former Australia Pack):
  • Common Wombat
  • Eastern Long-Beaked Echidna
  • Matschie's Tree-Kangaroo
  • Lace Monitor
  • Superb Lyrebird
  • Southern Cassowary
  • Tasmanian Devil
  • Thorny Devil (Exhibit)
Aquatic Animal Pack:
  • Australian Pelican
  • Broad-Snouted Caiman
  • Hawksbill Sea Turtle
  • Gentoo Penguin
  • Marine Iguana
  • Northern River Otter
  • Southern Elephant Seal
  • Diamondback Terrapin (Exhibit)
Southeast Asia Animal Pack:
  • Binturong
  • Black-Necked Stork
  • Mainland Clouded Leopard
  • Probocis Monkey
  • Siamang
  • Silver Pheasant
  • White-Striped Dorcopis
  • Malaysian Paint River Terrapin (Exhibit)
(the Giant Malaysian leaf insect is moved to the base game)
Africa Animal Pack:
  • Dromedary Camel
  • Greater Kudu
  • Grey Crowned Crane
  • Leopard
  • Red River Hog
  • Secretary Bird
  • White Rhinoceros
  • Panther Chameleon (Exhibit)
North America Animal Pack:
  • American Alligator
  • California Sea Lion
  • Collared Peccary
  • Mexican Beaded Lizard
  • Moose
  • Nine-Banded Armadillo
  • White-Nosed Coati
  • Axolotl (Exhibit)
Europe Animal Pack:
  • Alpine Chamois
  • Eurasian Beaver
  • European Badger
  • Harbour Seal
  • Iberian Lynx
  • Red Deer
  • Western Capercaillie
  • Great Grey Slug (Exhibit)
Wetlands Animal Pack:
  • Capybara
  • Central Slender-Snouted Crocodile
  • Domestic Water Buffalo
  • Ellipsen Waterbuck
  • Red-Crowned Crane
  • Scarlet Ibis
  • Shoebill
  • Central American Snapping Turtle (Exhibit)
Conservation Animal Pack:
  • Andean Mountain Cat
  • Dama Gazelle
  • Geoffrey's Spider Monkey
  • Indian Bustard
  • Père David's Deer
  • Scimitar Oryx
  • Vancouver Island Marmot
  • Dusky Sea Snake (Exhibit)
Nocturnal Animal Pack (former Twilight Pack):
  • American Hog-Nosed Skunk
  • Aye-Aye
  • Black-Capped Night Heron
  • Fossa
  • Kinkajou
  • Northern Red Muntjac
  • Southern Tamandua
  • Leach's Gecko (Exhibit)
Grasslands Animal Pack:
  • Aardwolf
  • Emu
  • Gerenuk
  • Przewalski's Horse
  • Red-Legged Seriema
  • Red-Necked Wallaby
  • Yucatan Brown Brocket
  • Common Peacock Butterfly (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Monarch Butterfly (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Old World Swallowtail (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Polyphemus Moth (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Viennese Emperor (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Tropical Animal Pack:
  • Bornean Crested Fireback
  • Crocodile Monitor
  • Humboldt's Squirrel Monkey
  • Jentink's Duiker
  • Pygmy Hippopotamus
  • Rhinoceros Iguana
  • Sumatran Serow
  • Hoffmann's Two-Toed Sloth (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Arid Animal Pack:
  • African Spurred Tortoise
  • Black-Tailed Jackrabbit
  • Crested Porcupine
  • Hamadryas Baboon
  • Puna Flamingo
  • Sacred Crocodile
  • Somali Wild Ass
  • Arabian Sand Boa (Exhibit)
Islands Animal Pack (former Oceania Pack):
  • Agile Wallaby
  • Buru Babirusa
  • Cuban Crocodile
  • Giant Coua
  • Hawaiian Goose
  • Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
  • Yellow-eyed Penguin
  • Javan Tailless Fruit Bat (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Madagascar Rousette (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • New Zealand Long-Tailed Bat (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Spectacled Flying Fox (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Sulawesi Rousette (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Greater Asia Animal Pack (former Eurasian Animal Pack):
  • Blackbuck
  • Back-Headed Ibis
  • Dhole
  • Nepal Grey Langur
  • Saiga
  • Sloth Bear
  • Takin
  • Horsfield's Tortoise (Exhibit)
Barnyard Animal Pack:
  • American Standard Donkey
  • Flemmish Giant Rabbit
  • Highland Cattle
  • Jersey Giant Chicken
  • Oberhasli Goat
  • Radnor Sheep
  • Tamworth Pig
  • Birmingham Roller Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Genuine Homer Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Lucerne Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Polish Lynx Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Red Swallow Pigeon (Walkthrough Exhibit)
Zookeeper's Animal Pack:
  • Coppery Brushtail Possum
  • Hawk's Sportive Lemur
  • Japanese Giant Salamander
  • Mountain Tapir
  • Red-Breasted Merganser
  • Shetland Pony
  • Walrus
  • African Grey Parrot (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Hyacinth Macaw (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Pesquet's Parrot (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Scarlet Macaw (Walkthrough Exhibit)
  • Sulphur-Crested Cockatoo (Walkthrough Exhibit)
(Remaining DLC Pack(s) TBA)
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I like your roster, but I would miss the foxes and the Striped Hyena.
 

caninesrock

caninesrock
NZFanatic said:
These seem kind of silly since both these DLC's released prior to deep-diving being added.
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Deep-diving would've been available with the base game in my version.

Also, I added some flying birds (parrots) and fish/aquatic animals as exhibit and/or walkthrough exhibit animals.

I've also edited my list around now and made every pack an animal pack with 7 habitat animals and 1 exhibit animal, made the Arctic Park a combined Arctic/Antarctic pack, and made the Deluxe bonus an entire expansion pack with 7 habitat animals and 1 exhibit animal.
 

SuzieSky

SuzieSky
This is how I wish things could have been done.

For the base game, I thought South America and Australia especially needed to start with a bit more. To me, the South America pack seemed uniquely withheld from the base game, so I added it there with a clone flamingo to give the Americas an easy bird. I added a wallaby, emu, and echidna to give Australia a few basics to start with. The moose and rhino were two other obvious exclusions, and I thought Europe should start with an ungulate. The fallow deer seemed like the most basic one. I'm mostly fine with the animals that were included in the base game; it made sense to start with extra stuff from Africa and Asia. I just made a few minor changes to get slightly more useful ungulates, Europe's monkey, and species-level bears. I didn't mention it below, but I'd probably leave the brown bear looking like a grizzly or more impressive kodiak but make the wolf look more like the Eurasian to keep it 'fair.' I expanded the Deluxe addition to an animal pack to include a few simpler picks that would be more difficult to work in elsewhere and make it more worth the cost. I only swapped one anniversary animal, the red deer, so I could move it to the Europe pack.
  • Base Game:
    • Major Additions:
      • The entire South America pack, plus a blue poison frog and an American flamingo
      • kangaroo, or at least a wallaby (I'll put the wallaby here)
      • 2 more things for Australia (I'll say emu and echidna)
      • African Rhino (white rhino)
      • moose
      • European ungulate (fallow deer?)
    • Minor Substitutions:
      • Formosan black bear -> moon bear (species level is more useful)
      • grizzly bear -> brown bear (species level is more useful)
      • Himalayan brown bear -> American black bear (using the free space)
      • springbok -> blackbuck (more useful antelope)
      • bonobo -> Barbary macaque (more useful primate-clone)
      • black wildebeest -> blue wildebeest (the black one is useless to many after we got the blue)
      • nyala -> greater kudu (personal preference)
  • Deluxe [Animal] pack: add tufted capuchin, great white pelican, bighorn sheep, arctic wolf, and bearded dragon
  • Anniversary:
    • red deer -> wild boar
With the new additions to the base game, I thought I could reorder the DLCs. I liked having the Arctic pack for the first Christmas, and I thought it worked well although I wished it could have a few more animals. I thought the musk ox and fox were a bit more popular than the sheep or wolf. I think most wanted gibbons more than the monkey, so I added both to the SEA pack instead. For a few habitat animals with obvious 'clones', I put more than one of each type into packs. Maybe it's cheating, but I like it better that way. I also did this with the ideal duck trio in the following aquatic pack. The harbor seal and turtle were just slight personal preferences. With the extra space in the North America pack, I added the turkey to give us a bird and a wolverine to free up a later slot.
  • Arctic Pack
    • polar bear
    • caribou
    • dall sheep -> musk ox
    • arctic wolf (moved) -> arctic fox
  • Southeast Asia Animal Pack
    • Malayan tapir
    • clouded leopard
    • binturong
    • sun bear
    • dhole
    • babirusa
    • leaf insect
    • proboscis monkey -> lar gibbon & siamang
  • Aquatic Pack
    • king penguin
    • giant otter
    • dwarf caiman (moved) -> Mandarin, mallard, and white-faced whistling duck
    • grey seal -> harbor seal
    • terrapin -> snapping turtle
  • North America Animal Pack
    • cougar
    • sea lion
    • alligator
    • beaver
    • prairie dog
    • bullfrog
    • moose (moved) -> wild turkey
    • arctic fox (moved) -> wolverine
I actually really liked the Australia pack as is, but I added the thorny devil because I think they are one of the coolest lizards out there. There is now room for the 'missing' South America animal pack, so I added one with mostly tropical animals. The spectacled bear, dwarf caiman, and capybara were all pulled from other packs. I just changed the deer for the Europe pack. I dropped the scenery to make the Africa pack an animal pack and bring in a few more iconic species a bit earlier. I like the Africa pack as is, but there are so many cool species from Africa that I wanted the animals even more.
  • Australia Pack
    • red kangaroo
    • cassowary
    • koala
    • dingo
    • skink -> thorny devil
  • South America Animal Pack (entirely new)
    • add Geoffroy's spider monkey
    • add golden lion, cotton-top, and emperor tamarin
    • add scarlet ibis
    • add spectacled bear
    • add ocelot
    • add capybara
    • add dwarf caiman
    • add emerald tree boa
  • Europe Pack
    • lynx
    • badger
    • ibex
    • fire salamander
    • fallow deer (moved) -> red deer
  • Africa [Animal] Pack
    • meerkat
    • fennec fox
    • African penguin
    • white rhino (moved) -> Nile crocodile
    • beetle -> chameleon
    • add hamadryas baboon
    • add serval
    • add grey crowned crane
Conservation and wetlands were pretty well-timed, but I thought the Oceania and barnyard pack should have come sooner. The conservation pack was pretty awesome as-is, but I decided to use the open gibbon slot for an endangered Indian monkey. I think the pack is still pretty strong. Wetlands was another good one, but I think there were some more useful options than some of the oddballs, which I don't mind but don't need. I dropped them in favor of the red river hog, both popular swans, a howler monkey, and a freshwater turtle. The Oceania pack was left mostly intact, but I added my beloved tree kangaroo and a more interesting exhibit animal. The barnyard pack was mostly left alone with a few minor breed substitutions. I don't often see sheep in zoos, so I dropped the sheep to bring in a rabbit for the modders.
  • Conservation Pack:
    • wild horse
    • oryx
    • Amur leopard
    • siamang (moved) -> lion-tailed macaque
    • axolotl
  • Wetlands Animal Pack:
    • red-crowned crane
    • platypus
    • small-clawed otter
    • wild water buffalo -> black and mute swan
    • lechwe -> red river hog
    • capybara (moved) -> black howler monkey
    • caiman -> Arrau river turtle
    • newt -> green anaconda
  • Oceania Pack:
    • Tasmanian devil
    • blue penguin
    • kiwi
    • quokka -> tree kangaroo
    • bats -> tuatara
  • Barnyard Animal Pack
    • [bigger] Highland cow
    • chicken
    • alpaca
    • Tamworth pig -> pot-bellied pig (or a goose?)
    • sheep -> lop or giant rabbit
    • standard donkey -> Mediterranean mini donkey
    • alpine goat -> dwarf goat
With the empty space in the tropical pack, I added the gaur to give SEA a large bovid. The water buffalo or anoa could work nearly as well. The guereza can take the gibbon's spot, and I added both coatis in place of the water monitor. The sloth is fine, but I'd be just as happy with a two-toed personally. The empty spaces in Grasslands were filled with the Patagonian essentials and a perentie to give Australia a monitor. I thought Twilight was mostly missing a South American animal to round it out, so I moved the skunk, which is a great taxon-pick, to make space for it. Personally, I'd prefer an arboreal porcupine to the raccoon, but many people wanted it so much that I don't mind it. The original Twilight pack is a bit strange, but I like it despite my recent rant outlining the fuzzy reasons why most Americans tend not to see it as North America 2.0. Like the lechwe, I don't mind the rhino, viper, and gazelle too much, but I want other animals more.
  • Tropical Pack:
    • sloth (I never cared too much which sloth)
    • fossa
    • red river hog (moved) -> gaur
    • Lar gibbon (moved) -> guereza
    • water monitor -> South American and white-nosed coati
  • Grasslands Animal Pack
    • maned wolf
    • armadillo
    • striped hyena
    • caracal
    • butterflies
    • emu (moved) -> rhea
    • wallaby (moved) -> mara
    • blue wildebeest (moved) -> perentie
  • Twilight Pack
    • raccoon
    • skunk (moved) -> tamandua
    • red fox
    • wombat
    • fruit bat
  • Arid Animal Pack
    • dromedary camel
    • crested porcupine
    • sand cat (moved) -> honey badger
    • addax
    • Somali wild ass
    • black rhino -> secretary bird
    • Dama gazelle -> spurred tortoise
    • viper -> pancake tortoise
Eurasia has a ton of space now, so I added two martens, a goose, a stork, Himalayas stuff, and a muntjac. Hopefully, the European players like the bird and critter. I've seen a few suggestions, but I'm not sure what is popular on a large scale for you all. I liked most of the Zookeepers animals, and I moved most of them to other packs. I used this pack as a bit of a grab-bag. It now has the last bear, a meme-badger, the last popular South American monkey, and the final member of the pink trio. I kept the skunk, which I like as a taxon pick for musteloids, and it has great interspecies enrichment options for a woodlands section. I decided to add three other packs although I might hope for longer support. Many people want the coastal pack and an Avian expansion. A sizable chunk of the playerbase is from East Asia, and I think they ought to have a pack celebrating their animals.
  • Eurasia Animal Pack
    • wisent
    • wolverine (moved) -> bar-headed goose
    • mute swan (moved) -> white stork
    • wild boar (moved) -> yellow-throated and pine marten
    • saiga -> muntjac
    • sloth bear (moved) -> Pallas's cat
    • takin (moved) -> markhor
  • Zookeepers
    • spectacled bear (moved) -> sloth bear
    • Hamadryas baboon (moved) -> honey badger
    • sifaka -> squirrel monkey
    • dik-dik -> striped skunk
    • spurred tortoise (moved) -> roseate spoonbill
    • markhor (moved) -> wapiti
    • Pallas's cat (moved) -> sand cat
  • Coastal Animal pack (future)
    • walrus
    • manatee
    • sea turtle
    • sea otter
    • puffin
    • leopard seal
    • rockhopper penguin
    • aquatic critters
  • East Asia Animal pack (future)
    • takin
    • golden and silver pheasant
    • koi
    • golden snub-nosed monkey
    • raccoon dog
    • Pere David's deer
    • Chinese alligator
  • Avian Finale
    • flying birds, including macaws, budgies, lorikeets, cockatoos, eagles, owls, vultures, falcons, kookaburras, hornbills, toucans, ravens, and my favorite hoatzin
    • habitat birds? I'd like hornbills, more cranes, additional waterfowl, and maybe storks/shoebills...
I can still think of animals I'd want to buy beyond those listed, but I think this would be an ok end. I'm sorry if I got rid of one of your favorite animals or forgot something important. If this were the state of the game, I'd consider all taxons and regions well-addressed. I'd also have my favorites.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
Altogether with what we have, I'm pretty satisfied with the mammal roster - with the exception of South/Latin America needing more animals and specifically at least one more New World Primate. So with that, I'm just going to change out a few things in the DLC, looking over the entire roster. Not in any particular order of release:

Barnyard - throw out the bacon pig and add in a rabbit. Also to a lesser extent take out the sheep, put in a Shetland Pony. I realize that's two equids in the pack but they're both really popular petting zoo animals.

Arid - throw out the Dama Gazelle and put in a Golden Jackal.

Zookeepers - throw out of the Sifaka and put in another New World Monkey, in this case the Howler Monkey. Also throw out the Dik-Dik and put in a Secretary Bird, since they still wanted to focus on Africa so much I'll let them keep that slot as an african animal.

Grasslands: I know this will be unpopular but I really do not like the Armadillo. Replace it with a Patagonian Mara.

Oceania - the quokka is great but I would still replace it with a Tree Kangaroo.

5th Anniversary animal - Down with the African Leopard, add in the American Black Bear.

Main one I'd change up a lot is Tropical. This should have been an animal pack IMO with a focus on Latin America. Keep all the animals you've got, add in the Coati, another New World Primate, let's go with the Squirrel Monkey in this case, and the Brazilian Porcupine. I also wasn't that into the Tropical scenery so I don't mind giving that up.

The other scenery packs I like the scenery enough and am content enough with the mammalian roster (with my changes) that I'd leave them be as scenery packs.
 

Stygi

Stygi
Deluxe:
1. Komodo Dragon
2. Pygmy Hippo
3. Greater Rhea

Arctic:
1. Polar Bear
2. Arctic Fox
3. Reindeer
4. Muskox

South America:
1. Jaguar
2. Giant Anteater
3. Vicuna
4. Squirrel Monkey
5. Red Eyed Tree Frog

Australia:
1. Red Kangaroo
2. Southern Cassowary
3. Koala
4. Perentie
5. Blue Tongued Skink

Aquatic:
1. King Penguin
2. Grey Seal
3. Giant Otter
4. Arrau River Turtle
5. Diamondback Terrapin

South-East Asia:
1. Sun Bear
2. Clouded Leopard
3. Malayan Tapir
4. Sulawesi Babirusa
5. Binturong
6. Javan Langur
7. Palawan Peacock Pheasant
8. Giant Leaf Insect

Africa:
1. White Rhinoceros
2. Meerkat
3. Fennec Fox
4. African Penguin
5. Sacred Scarab Beetle

North America:
1. Puma
2. American Black Bear
3. American Alligator
4. California Sealion
5. Moose
6. Black Tailed Prairie Dog
7. Beaver
8. American Bullfrog

Europe:
1. Eurasian Lynx
2. Alpine Ibex
3. Fallow Deer
4. Western Capercaillie
5. Fire Salamander

Wetlands:
1. Duck Billed Platypus
2. Capybara
3. Spectacled Caiman
4. Asian Short Clawed Otter
5. Japanese Crane
6. Nile Lechwe
7. Saddle Billed Stork
8. Danube Crested Newt

Conservation:
1. Amur Leopard
2. Prezwalski's Wild Horse
3. Golden Lion Tamarin
4. Scimitar Horned Oryx
5. Axolotl

Twilight:
1. Tasmanian Devil
2. Raccoon
3. Common Wombat
4. Aye-Aye
5. Egyptian Fruit Bat

Grasslands:
1. Emu
2. Red Necked Wallaby
3. Maned Wolf
4. Patagonian Mara
5. Grey Crowned Crane
6. Blackbuck
7. Caracal
8. Butterflies

Tropical:
1. Lar Gibbon
2. Red River Hog
3. Roseate Spoonbill
4. Black Headed Spider Monkey
5. Two Toed Sloth

Arid:
1. Dromedary
2. Dama Gazelle
3. African Crested Porcupine
4. African Spurred Tortoise
5. Hamadryas Baboon
6. Southern Ground Hornbill
7. Kirk's Dik Dik
8. African Rock Python

Oceania:
1. North Island Brown Kiwi
2. Victoria Crowned Pigeon
3. Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
4. Common Brushtail Possum
5. Frilled Lizard

Eurasia:
1. Wolverine
2. Wild Boar
3. Mute Swan
4. Sichuan Takin
5. Himalayan Monal
6. Mandarin Duck
7. Sloth Bear
8. Chinese Giant Salamander

Barnyard:
1. Pygmy Goat
2. Ankole Watusi
3. Alpaca
4. Rabbit
5. Chicken
6. Mallard
7. Guineafowl

Zookeepers:
1. South American Coati
2. Spectacled Bear
3. Fossa
4. Secretary Bird
5. Lion Tailed Macaque
6. Mantled Guereza
7. Brown Pelican

Anniversary:
1. Nile Crocodile
2. Pere David's Deer
3. Collared Peccary
4. Golden Pheasant
 
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