Cheat Alert: 204k delivered to Furbaide within an hour?

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google seems to show that active CMDR cheating is alive and well in ED even as of current version. I've posted support tickets to FD regarding what I've found simply googling for a bit. Probably lots of stuff out in the wild not directly searchable. The amount of trust given to clients is depressing. I hope a significant push to stomp this out is done before 1.2
 
new forum rules....just saying....careful or y'all will get a point or something...

Yes - the ugly truth should be suppressed at any cost.

At least we can be assured the contest to win 10k is one the up and up.

Yeah - right...

Credibility where art thou?
 
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google seems to show that active CMDR cheating is alive and well in ED even as of current version. I've posted support tickets to FD regarding what I've found simply googling for a bit. Probably lots of stuff out in the wild not directly searchable. The amount of trust given to clients is depressing. I hope a significant push to stomp this out is done before 1.2
I have no problem with a lot of trust given to the clients, since there are benefits to this. This of course means you need GM staff and swift and severe punishment for people who abuse this trust.

Yes - the ugly truth should be suppressed at any cost.
At least we can be assured the contest to win 10k is one the up and up.

Yeah - right...

Credibility where art thou?


Nothing is being suppressed, the excellent moderator staff of this forum has obviously seen this thread, as they've posted in it, and not closed it. I'm certain this wouldn't have gone this way on Blizzards forum. It speaks volumes about the quality of this site that we can openly discuss suspicious activity in this way as long as no "how-to"s or player names are posted.

The names of the suspicious players have not been named once, even though everyone can see them on E-ffingers Port local GalNet, in case they're innocent. So where's the suppression?
 
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Just forward it to the devs so they take notice of it and can investigate.
Thx in advance .

support tickets are like black holes. Your tickets go in and nothing ever returns. You can spend 10 min on google and find some stuff that makes so much of the hostility in this forum make complete sense. People are cheating, everything from re-fueling themselves if they get stuck in systems without fuel (looking at you explorers), infinite shields while simultaneously keeping opponent shields down (haven't heard that one in the forum before....not) farming combat zones with infinite ammo cheats for crazy money (again, that's new ....not).. These things are bragged about in the forum or exposed and we haven't seen anything in the way of action or major changes to the game so such cheats are less possible or more obvious.

With any luck, they delay 1.2 and really focus on securing things because there will be much more at stake with wings in any given interaction and with detailed how-to's easily googleable, it will be a cluster.
 


One can still dream and hope ?
I hope FD have something in the pipeline to tighten up the security.

edit: Ian Phillips is a moderator here on the forums so i think the notice of this issue will head its way straight to the right people without a ticket .
 
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If I may ask, what is the reward (and global award, if there is any) for Furbaide that people risk cheating to get to the top?
 
If I may ask, what is the reward (and global award, if there is any) for Furbaide that people risk cheating to get to the top?


It's ignorable imo. I think the people who cheat don't do it for the rewards . Still unknown if this issue is regarding to an exploit or cheat.
 
I have no problem with a lot of trust given to the clients, since there are benefits to this. This of course means you need GM staff and swift and severe punishment for people who abuse this trust.

Nothing is being suppressed, the excellent moderator staff of this forum has obviously seen this thread, as they've posted in it, and not closed it. I'm certain this wouldn't have gone this way on Blizzards forum. It speaks volumes about the quality of this site that we can openly discuss suspicious activity in this way as long as no "how-to"s or player names are posted.

The names of the suspicious players have not been named once, even though everyone can see them on E-ffingers Port local GalNet, in case they're innocent. So where's the suppression?

Well said, I can't rep you at the moment, so have an imaginary one.

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If I may ask, what is the reward (and global award, if there is any) for Furbaide that people risk cheating to get to the top?
At the time I took the screenshots, Tier 1 was not reached so no one knew what rewards are in it this time.

Is it at Tier 1 yet?
 
To be fair the alleged cheaters would have to be monumentally dumb to go public like this if they just wanted to cheat, which is why I choose to believe - at least for now - that they are actually trying to bring this long standing issue to public light in a way that leaves no room for misinterpretations. If they really just wanted to exploit the hole in the system they would do their thing in secret.
 
At the time I took the screenshots, Tier 1 was not reached so no one knew what rewards are in it this time.

Is it at Tier 1 yet?

You know the really depressing thing? Even with the 400 trips in one hour and the 200 trips in one hour in a Type 9 from our colleagues at the top of the list, we still haven't hit threshold one yet.
 
To be fair the alleged cheaters would have to be monumentally dumb to go public like this if they just wanted to cheat, which is why I choose to believe - at least for now - that they are actually trying to bring this long standing issue to public light in a way that leaves no room for misinterpretations. If they really just wanted to exploit the hole in the system they would do their thing in secret.

Except you can literally find forum posts bragging about making millions at combat zones in less than a couple hours. Which is done (and spelled out how) via cheats to your ammo and shields.

I dont play solo, only open. I'm not afraid of cheaters punking me because my home system is off the beaten path and I go weeks without seeing anyone, but it doesn't matter what mode you play. These cheaters are harmful to the game itself, and the game is shared across modes. And their harm will only be magnified as the game progresses.
 
To be fair the alleged cheaters would have to be monumentally dumb to go public like this if they just wanted to cheat, which is why I choose to believe - at least for now - that they are actually trying to bring this long standing issue to public light in a way that leaves no room for misinterpretations. If they really just wanted to exploit the hole in the system they would do their thing in secret.

yes, they share all public so the fd devs can read whats going on if they want but i think they know how its done couse they are pros
i have read that fd can only change this if they make open play only server side, to much is client side.

on topic, they found a way to manipulate the market ...
 
You know the really depressing thing? Even with the 400 trips in one hour and the 200 trips in one hour in a Type 9 from our colleagues at the top of the list, we still haven't hit threshold one yet.
Yeah, there's what, 59 million people in Furbaide?

So how many tons of medicine does each person need?

The tier thresholds have once again been set way, way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high by FD.
 

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support tickets are like black holes. Your tickets go in and nothing ever returns. You can spend 10 min on google and find some stuff that makes so much of the hostility in this forum make complete sense. People are cheating, everything from re-fueling themselves if they get stuck in systems without fuel (looking at you explorers), infinite shields while simultaneously keeping opponent shields down (haven't heard that one in the forum before....not) farming combat zones with infinite ammo cheats for crazy money (again, that's new ....not).. These things are bragged about in the forum or exposed and we haven't seen anything in the way of action or major changes to the game so such cheats are less possible or more obvious.

With any luck, they delay 1.2 and really focus on securing things because there will be much more at stake with wings in any given interaction and with detailed how-to's easily googleable, it will be a cluster.
You're welcome to private message me the details of said cheats, will relay it onward. :)
 
Yeah, there's what, 59 million people in Furbaide?

So how many tons of medicine does each person need?

The tier thresholds have once again been set way, way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high by FD.

I also think the whole community goals system simply doesn't work with this.
It's so arbitrary and gamey, and while it makes sense to have different tiers for things like starport construction, it's pretty strange to apply this system to things like wars and disease outbreak.
 
There's a new Top player on the Top 5 Contributors list that was not there when I last checked an hour ago, and he brought in 204,219 tons. Yes, that much.

Within an hour.

How obvious can you exploit this?

The new #2 also was not on the radar at all, apparently also an exploit at work, just used not quite so obvious (but still obvious enough)

I'm gonna stop contributing as long as these cheaters are on the board.

Are you here for the moustache completion?
 
yes, they share all public so the fd devs can read whats going on if they want but i think they know how its done couse they are pros
i have read that fd can only change this if they make open play only server side, to much is client side.

on topic, they found a way to manipulate the market ...

There is a lot of things that they can do that doesn't involve ditching p2p. I've pm staff linking to step by step methods of how a lot of different cheating is done and submitted tickets. I guess we'll see how important it is.

Manipulating the market is pretty visible and risky. And giving yourself more cargo than you purchased doesn't work because the adding and removal of cargo is synced from server. At least according to the cheaters.
 
You're welcome to private message me the details of said cheats, will relay it onward. :)


Message sent. I'd recommend reading a number of pages instead of just the directly linked. it's kind of crazy what they've been able to get away with (because some of the stuff are things you'd only think would exist on single player games)
 
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